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the current right wing strategies

  1. thinking magic is real thus circlejerking everything you can into an ergragore

  2. waiting for a caesar to show up

  3. refusing to come to terms with china being socialist and thinking hyper accelerating finance capital will defeat it

>>2816182
<refusing to come to terms with china being socialist
China isn't socialist.

China isn’t even Chinese let alone socialist, it’s like calling Italy Rome

>>2816188
>China isn’t even Chinese
what does this even mean. stop drinking.

China is Greek

READ

>>2816189
Repeated invasions by the Japanese, Mongol, and Manchu people mean the Han of today are no more the descendants of the Tang dynasty than British people or Uzbeks

>>2816192
>race spooks
that's not what Chinese means. Chinese just means in the borders of the PRC. Were you born before the Treaty of Westphalia?

>>2816194
And calling Italians Romans would be equally farcical, which is why they don’t do it

>>2816192
That's not how intermingling populations work. Unless you abide to blood purity spook that just mean the average Han have ancestry from all thoses people in addition to the one they nominally descend from.

For the same claim to apply to Brits or Uzbeks, there should have been a period where the ancient chinese did significatively breed with them.

>>2816195
You're being stupid on purpose.

>>2816196
>>2816194
>>2816192
I think I read before that modern chinese people share remarkable amounts of genetic continuity with ancient chinese people
I also just asked deepseek right now and it pretty much said yes. Tho its ai so idk if i should trust it.

this is what deepseek said:

Yes, recent ancient DNA (aDNA) studies provide strong evidence that modern Chinese people, particularly the Han Chinese, share a remarkable degree of genetic continuity with ancient populations in the same regions.

This does not mean the genetic makeup has been frozen in time. Rather, it suggests a stable core ancestry that formed early and has persisted as the primary component, even amidst migrations and cultural interactions.

🧬 Evidence for Genetic Continuity Across China
Studies examining different historical periods and regions consistently point to a deep genetic connection between ancient and modern populations.

Continuity from the Warring States & Han Dynasty: Analysis of ancient genomes from Shandong (dating from the Warring States period, Han Dynasty to Northern Dynasties) reveals a close genetic relationship with modern Han Chinese. This indicates long-term genetic stability in the region over the past two millennia.

Stability in the Lower Yangtze River Basin: Genetic profiles of individuals from the Song to Qing dynasties show a high degree of homogeneity, confirming enduring genetic continuity in this region across historical periods. Contemporary Han Chinese from this area can indeed be modeled as the direct genetic descendants of these historical populations.

Deep-Rooted Continuity in the Central Plains (Zhongyuan): This region, considered the cradle of Chinese civilization, shows remarkable genetic stability spanning 3,000 years.

Analysis of 38 ancient genomes from the Western Zhou to the Qing Dynasty (including the Ming and Qing periods) reveals no significant genetic structural changes, indicating an unbroken genetic lineage.

A finding confirmed a direct ancestral link: Qing Dynasty residents of the Central Plains are direct ancestors of modern Henan Han, and can also be modeled as direct descendants of Tang Dynasty Yellow River populations.

While a trace amount (~2%) of Western Eurasian genetic admixture was detected in samples from the Qing and Tang Dynasties, this likely originated from Silk Road interactions and has remained stable since, without any recent influx of new foreign genetic material.

Genetic Contribution of the Neolithic Yellow River Farmers: The genetic foundation of modern East Asian populations was largely established by Neolithic millet farmers in the Yellow River region.

Their genetic influence is widespread, contributing 57–92% of the ancestry in modern Han Chinese populations and 70–80% in modern Tibetan populations.

Populations in the Shandong Peninsula also share a close genetic affinity with these ancient northern East Asians (ANEA), further demonstrating long-term continuity.

Origins in the Neolithic Era: The primary genetic mixing that led to the emergence of the Han Chinese occurred early, likely during the Neolithic period, creating a foundational genetic template that has persisted. This template was largely formed by 9,500 years ago and is shared by present-day East Asians.

The evidence from ancient DNA research strongly supports the notion that modern Chinese populations, particularly the Han, are the direct genetic descendants of ancient populations in the same geographic areas. While not completely isolated, the core genetic structure has shown a clear signal of stability and continuity over thousands of years.

If you'd like to explore the genetic history of a specific region or ethnic group within China in more detail, feel free to ask.

>>2816200
They’re the ones insisting on calling themselves the “People’s Republic of the MIDDLE KINGDOM“ they’re not even trying to hide the fraud and the doublespeak

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Ultras will just ignore this

>>2816206
If socialism means I still work for a bullshit job and have my wages appropriated, it’s not worth activism or voting, let alone death and civil war. Much like Marx himself you’re a smug fraud.



>>2816206
>that Marx quote

< It is true that a controversy now arises in the field of political economy. The one side (Lauderdale, Malthus, etc.) recommends luxury and execrates thrift. The other (Say, Ricardo, etc.) recommends thrift and execrates luxury. But the former admits that it wants luxury in order to produce labour (i.e., absolute thrift); and the latter admits that it recommends thrift in order to produce wealth (i.e., luxury). The Lauderdale-Malthus school has the romantic notion that avarice alone ought not to determine the consumption of the rich, and it contradicts its own laws in advancing extravagance as a direct means of enrichment. Against it, therefore, the other side very earnestly and circumstantially proves that I do not increase but reduce my possessions by being extravagant. The Say-Ricardo school is hypocritical in not admitting that it is precisely whim and caprice which determine production. It forgets the “refined needs”, it forgets that there would be no production without consumption; it forgets that as a result of competition production can only become more extensive and luxurious. It forgets that, according to its views, a thing’s value is determined by use, and that use is determined by fashion. It wishes to see only “useful things” produced, but it forgets that production of too many useful things produces too large a useless population. Both sides forget that extravagance and thrift, luxury and privation, wealth and poverty are equal.


Genocide all those who misquote Marx

TJND

Death to all Lassalleans

>>2816182
Caesar was left wing though?

>>2816206
China good bukharin bad and Stalin good this the truth

>>2816212
>copying immigration policy’s
They bastardize chinas multicultural nationalism as I remember seeing grilling shares his political views and he said “China is making everyone Han” which is ridiculous what China is actual doing is making Han ughyr Tibet etc… under the Chinese umbrella

>>2816274
>>2816218
Unironically how do you respond to this >>2816219 ?

>>2816282
explain how it is at all relevant to china

>>2816282
He was critiquing the fethisization of commodities China doesn’t do that

>>2816204
>etymological pedantry
most Americans don't even know who Amerigo Vespucci was.

>>2816219
how is that a misquote, it's quoting a different work. just because you are able to fight one marx quote with another doesn't mean anything.

>i want tacos today

<anon, tuesday
>i want pizza today
<anon, wednesday

WOW I WILL REFUTE THE TACOS QUOTE WITH THE PIZZA QUOTE

>>2816202
I like how the chinese isnt chinese poster never addressed this

>>2816218
>Erm, let's see you do better
Is not a particularly compelling argument. If you aren't interested in having a discussion, that's fine, but then I question why you've come to a platform that exists solely for discussion.


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