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The term "antisemitism" has lost all meaning for me. In a lot of western countries they have an entire year's worth of history curriculum dedicated to the holocaust, which is very real and did happen, but anyway… my point here is that when the media says "antisemitism" they want to conjure up the image of neo-nazis and white power "people" when most of the time they are talking about Palestinians who had their land forcefully expropriated in the same way that the native americans did. One group wants genocide, one is actively fighting against a genocide, yet they are both treated as "antisemitism" by the media. It's such a slick and disingenuous use of the term. That's why I can't stand when I hear it these days

Okay. And what do you believe the solution is?

The phrase "antisemitism used to mean those who hate Jews, but now it means those who Jews hate" is unfortunately true. Jewishness used to be left-coded, but now it's right-coded.

>>2817436
solution to what?

>>2817436
>>2817440
The specific use of the term "solution" makes me vaguely suspicious that this is some sort of bait post, but maybe that's not what they meant. Who knows.

>>2817442
get a grip kid

yeah, nobody gives a fuck anymore because netanyahu and his ilk have cried wolf too many times

>>2817434
The holocaust didnt even focus on Jews as much as Communists.
Bourgeois Zionists warped the holocaust and created fake words like "anti semitism".

>>2817436
Whatever it is it cant be a temporary fix.

>>2817554
>The holocaust didnt even focus on Jews as much as Communists.
I don't know who is telling you this stuff, but I have to remind you that Nazi ideology bundled Jews and communists into the same ~enemy~ package since Jews allegedly created communism. A Nazi death squad rolling into town was more likely than not going to shoot anyone who was a member of the Communist Party on the spot along with the fighting-age Jewish males, while the women and kids if not shot as well would be sent off to die in slave-labor camps.

>>2817437
>The phrase "antisemitism used to mean those who hate Jews, but now it means those who Jews hate" is unfortunately true
correct
>Jewishness used to be left-coded, but now it's right-coded.
idpol rubbish. the religion of judaism has always been an abrahamic, conservative religion centered around a genocidal abrahamic war deity called yahweh who used to be part of the canaanite pantheon. a random subset of canaanites began worshiping him above the other gods in the pantheon, as a sort of zeus figure who was above the other gods, and then they began worshiping him exclusively. eventually they came under the influence of zoroastrianism and greek philosophy and yahweh evolved from the storm/war deity yahweh into an abstract god without a body who created space, time, matter, energy.

as for the jewish people and their relation to the labor movement in 19th century europe, this is not "jewishness" being "left coded", but rather a product of jewish workers occupying a space of a marginalized minority in a very specific time and place, rather than being inherently working class or inherently marginalized on account of their "jewishness"

>>2817921
hitler was patronised by wealthy german jews before the war and in return the nazis let them buy safe passage to palestine. while the war was raging zionist terrorists fought a vicious guerilla war terrorising british and palestinians with german arms they bought from hitler. the nakba didn't just reflect the holocaust in deed, the same instruments were used: wehrmacht mp40s and kar98ks.

the eastern front was about exterminating slavs. 9 million soviets were killed. I've seen jews hang shit on stalin for transporting jews in poland to siberia, it's fucking horseshit. look at the records of who survived and who didn't, the eastern european jews with the best survival rate hands down were the bougeoise, the class traitors, the cowards, and the untrustworthy. siberia was as far from the front as you could ever hope to be. the comrades that joined the soviet resistance didn't survive when the nazis broke through and slaughtered their way to stalingrad.

It holds as much weight as someone accusing you of being anti-nazi

>>2817554
holocaust is the name of the supposed genocide of jews and jews alone, gypsies have porajmos (which they failed to market as well as jews did) and for everyone else it's whatever with no specific name

>>2818028
Everyone hates Roma but at least they didn’t attempt settler colonialism

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>>2818028
>holocaust is the name of the supposed genocide of jews and jews alone
colloquially pretty much everyone uses it to refer to the genocides, plural, committed by the NSDAP and Nazi Germany against all the peoples they targeted.

>>2818147
>Everyone hates Roma
outed yourself as a reactionary there. why do reactionaries always presume "everyone" shares their prejudices?

>>2818152
everyone who ever met one*

>>2818148
Jews chose that name to link the event to them acquring the state of pissrael.

>>2818148
yeah bro, lot of holocaust museums focusing on romanis, poles, queers, and slavs. lot of holocaust movies too. because of the lobby and hollywood wheb normies hear holocaust they think dead jews, they hear nazis they think anti-semitism.

just because ciapedia has basic facts correct doesn't mean the average westoid has actually read it and isn't living in a reality constructed of pop cultural memes.

literal assuming all anericans have read alexis de tocqueville tier analysis bro.

>>2818148
Probably the majority of people have no idea that millions of non Jews were killed in the Holocaust, and even among astute people, Generalplan Ost is usually not considered as 'part of the holocaust'

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Antisemitism gained new meaning for me as the left and right wing of capital take turns blaming da juice or what are the essential mechanisms of capital, all to shift blame away from the system, like their great leader once did.

>>2818343
>Probably the majority of people have no idea that millions of non Jews were killed in the Holocaust,
even in the US i was taught that so idk what you're on about

>>2818213
>>2818333
didn't deny there's a jewish-centric and jewish supremacist revisionist history, just pointed out that history of the non-jewish victims is not generally denied, even if it is also not mentioned often enough. I think it should be mentioned more often, in contrast to nazis, who deny all of it, or say it was all good

>>2818990
the techbros made everyone stupider and more reactionary in a matter of years

>>2818028
>ziorat spotted

>>2818990
Sophie is based.
Calling reactionaries out for their contradictions is good. Even if done so crudely. These filth are not interested in good faith debate so telling them they are the real "Epstein sl4ves" in a way is praxis.


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