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In 1969, Eldridge Cleaver then a leading theoretician of the Black Panther Party, an organization forged in the crucible of Oakland’s ghettos and dedicated to the armed self‑defense of the African‑American nation traveled to Pyongyang to attend an anti‑imperialist journalists conference. The journey was not a mere diplomatic gesture; This gesture acted as a genuine encounter between two fronts of the same global war, the war of the dispossessed against the empire of capital. In the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Cleaver directly experienced the truth of North Korea, that is, it is a socialist state that had expelled Japanese colonialism, repelled US invasion, and was constructing a self‑reliant society under conditions of total blockade. He became entranced. For the Panthers, North Korea was not a curiosity; it was a material proof that a non‑white, non‑Western nation could not only survive imperial punishment but thrive on its own terms.

The theoretical bridge was Juche of course, the principle of self‑reliance. Juche is a strategic doctrine born from Korea’s particular material conditions, a peninsula divided by imperial confrontation, a nation forced to choose between Soviet patronage, Chinese hegemony, or its own path. Pyongyang’s genius was to turn this squeeze into a weapon. Juche allowed North Korea to navigate the Soviet split by declaring its ideological independence, and in doing so, it offered a template to other colonized and semi‑colonized peoples, you need not bow to Moscow or Washington; you can build with your own hands, your own soil, your own class struggle.

The Black Panther Party, from its inception, had practiced a form of Juche. The programs of armed community patrols, the free breakfast for children, the survival kits these were expressions of “using what you have to get what you need.” The Panthers did not wait for the settler state to provide; they expropriated from the bourgeoisie and redistributed within their nation of poor dispossessed peoples, separate from the amerikkkan nation. When the Black Panther newspaper declared in February 1970 that “broken wine bottles and hypodermic needles are very effective… this is Juche,” it was not appropriating a foreign slogan. It was recognizing a theoretical kinship of self‑defense as a materialist necessity under conditions of occupation.

Eldridge Cleaver’s embrace of North Korea was documented. He saw in Pyongyang’s streets, its literacy campaigns, its mobilization of women into the workforce, and its ruthless suppression of bourgeois activity as a model for a revolutionary society that could survive the inevitable counter‑revolution and blockade. The Cleavers named their daughter born in Pyongyang Jojuyounghi, “a young heroine born in Juche Korea” , a symbolic act of revolutionary internationalism. Kathleen Cleaver, in her unpublished memoir, noted that North Korea’s official denunciations of “US imperialists” resonated with the “most virulent sentiments Black slaves and their descendants felt.” The enemy’s enemy is not merely a friend; the enemy’s enemy is a total ally in the same global class war.

The Panthers were not the only US radicals to absorb Juche. In the mid‑1970s, the San Francisco‑based Black Vanguard Party published Seize The Time featuring Kim Il Sung’s definition of Juche, “holding fast to the principle of solving for oneself all the problems of the revolution and construction in conformity with the actual conditions at home.” On the East Coast, a white radical collective in Cambridge, Massachusetts named itself Juche and published a newspaper with the same name. The concept of self‑reliance, of building autonomous institutions independent of the non‑profit industrial complex and the Democratic Party was a necessary antidote to the tailism that has since conquered the US left.

The US empire requires racial hierarchy to fragment the working class. The colonized Black community in America shares a structural position with colonized nations abroad, both are subject to super‑exploitation, state violence, and cultural erasure. Juche’s insistence on national sovereignty and popular autonomy translates directly into the demand for Black self‑determination. This isn't some type of separatism, this is history, and the precondition for any genuine anti‑capitalist struggle. As the Panther Assata Shakur later recalled, she preferred reading Kim Il Sung over Marx and Lenin because the Korean leader’s texts spoke to the immediate, concrete conditions of a colonized people. Mind you, these are the same people who were the first publishers and translators of anarcho//nihilist texts from Russia. They read Mao, Marx, Lenin. We are not some modern abstraction of individuals that spun a new idea, this is just what ill informed leftists, and paranoid uneducated feds claim. We are continuing tradition of anti-capitalist thought and struggle. It’s exhausting how few leftists recognize the consistent, dialectical materialist connections between these tendencies and instead treat ideology like a product to be picked off a shelf, and repeated word for word. What are all of these organizations so many people love joining doing in regards to history & theory, training them to be campy cliques, rather than actually expanding their members theory and historical knowledge?

Anyway, North Korea’s anti‑racist rhetoric has never been superficial. When the DPRK’s state run media condemned the 2013 acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer, calling the United States a “kingdom of racial discrimination,” it was not a propaganda stunt as the CIA bots love to claim. It was a materialist diagnosis of the empire’s core contradiction. Likewise, during the 2014 Ferguson uprising, Pyongyang denounced the US as a “disgrace” and a “laughing stock of the world” words that echoed the lived experience of every Black American who has faced wicked police. The DPRK understands that the same system which bombs wedding parties in Yemen also executes unarmed Black men in Missouri.

The Panther‑Juche alliance of the 1960s and 1970s was not based on cultural affinity but on material interest and international solidarity. The US state understands this perfectly, that is why it works so tirelessly to sever any solidarity between the Black oppressed peoples and Juche thought. The question the Panthers posed is still the question we must confront, can a dispossessed people build its own infrastructure, its own defence, its own future, without the permission of the oppressor? North Korea answered yes. That answer is a beacon. And it is why the US intelligence apparatus is so desperate to smear, isolate, and criminalize anyone who dares to read the Juche idea with an open mind. They fear the material practice of self‑reliance and self-defense. They are uneducated so think were apart of some organized cult rather than consistently carrying a multi-decade long tradition of struggle & theory.


https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/comrades-beyond-the-cold-war/

This book serves as a basic introduction to this general topic. It is now available on Amazon in audiobook format, so it is accessible through the dominant bourgeois distribution channels. However, should one exercise patience, a more classical circulation may be arranged, when additional copies arrive at my comrades independent press, we can distribute gratis to selected users of this forum. Knowledge, after all, is a weapon and weapons should not be hoarded by those who can afford the cover price. We are also going to work to publish it to marxists.org

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>>2822612
Rape-as-praxis is actually derived from Juche? Huh. Interesting, I hadn't known that.

>>2822615

Rape, cults, heavy drugs. street crime that’s the whole package they romanticize. Sad, paranoid little lives full of delusions and ego trips.

One of these juche geniuses was here months ago saying the American left needs its own Branch Davidians that level of blind devotion and compound living. Not shocking their messiahs are rapist junkies. Not one bit. These are the heroes they worship all the time rapists, cult leaders, and traffickers.

he Kim family these cunts simp for? They run meth through the population, traffic human beings, and keep sex slaves. That’s their worker paradise.

Huey P Newton got himself killed in a dope deal gone bad. Nathaniel Clark Jr. another big-time black power organizr was a heroin user who beat his wife. That’s the legacy. Junkies, abusers, cult freaks, and violent predators. this is the tradition we know yall carry.

They’re just strung out ego maniacs who think dropping Mao references in their trash raps while claiming they’re Jesus Christ makes them profound. They don’t have the authority to lecture anybody about anything. Not morality, not justice, not history nothing. End of mother fucking story, please and thanks.

https://maoistcultexposed.wordpress.com/

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>>2822612
mods, publish the ip adresse of this self serving fag

>>2822615
Juche isn't marxism or even socialism, really. DPRK stans are just campists that have turned valid Anti-Americanism into frothing-at-the-mouth derangement. I am totally opposed to the ROK expanding or the US provocations of DPRK, but the people there are suffering to an extreme degree.
OP claiming that Black Panthers got the idea of free breakfasts from DPRK is a joke when most people there are lucky to eat a simple brunch, much less a big breakfast.

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>>2822612
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>>2822623
As someone from third-world whose reading about the black Panthers, I honestly find them unimpressive. Their impact was mostly on media and symbolism, but their actual actions were less relevant in practice. Even if Fred Hampton hadn’t been killed, I think it would have remained an okay-ish democratic socialist movement. But Americans and lumpen lumpenproles are not really capable of carrying out any serious revolution, only the sons of reaction can

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>>2822822


theyre drugged up nihilists using leftism as their mission of dominance and powers. these juche guys keeps talkin about "the american left standard" and "maoist tradition" or whatever. but like… bro. the leftism he loves already wrecked leftism. duh. look at the leftism u idiots built, aimless, identity, unhinged politics division and hatred for your own homelands. you guys literally provoked one of the largest fascist movements without any base to fight it.. adventurism much? its like yall see what right-wing people say about communists and go "YUP THATS ME I'M THAT". so dumb. any of yall notice anarchists, maoists, edgy types literally are a living fox news stereotype. you accuse them of being anti american theyll go YES GET VANQUISHED BURGERLAND CUCKS and most normal workers throw their arms up and leave. i value democratic socialism but we all know talking to an unhinged anarchist, and maoist feels like the exact same experience. idk about foreign leftism but in the usa yeah. its far past annoying.

the black panthers get over hyped because people like them hold the american left hostage. the black panthers had a secret group for TERROR. KIDNAPPING. ROBBERY. The black liberation army or other decentralized cults like MOVE. that's why they fell apart. they couldn't stop being crazy. same with the naxalites. same dumb story.

"broken bottles and needles are very effective, that is juche" thats what panthers said according to OP. i thought it was a juche larp that they added because this sounds like the type of shit theyd make up to LARP here but i looked into it. no 100% real. so is the juche collective that was taking LSD and orders from pyonyang. your heros are cults. they wont tell you that the CPUSA members didn't get murdered like the panthers.. did they get repressed for cold war ok yes but the entire getting killed in your bed as you sleep isnt because they were communists, its because they were insurgents who were mentally ill. the us government doesnt care if youre white, black, communist, christian, nazi, muslim, if you do shit like this they come to keep their society together like any government does. Branch davidians, ruby ridge, the feds shooting the militia ranchers, MOVE, black panthers… its cults that use violent and brainwashing who get targeted by violence and guess what each idealogy like this including your own has something built in to go LOOK THEYRE ATTACKING US SEE THEYRE THE ENEMY built into them.. its cult 101. i didn't know this cult of juche drugged up zombies was something decades long, this is sad to learn. i thought you guys were a new era of grifters but apparently this is the general face of the mentally ill left.

yall are just fed pawns. wreckers. leftist clown stereotypes. so so dumb.


Yall read this juche zine associated with the panthers from the 70s this reads exactly like their ones from baltimore. these idiots arent pioneers at all its the blind leading the blind. they literally write "through our dope and our music, we spread juche". yeah these people are fucking foreign mkultra candidates.

Juche makes people into drugged up cult freaks. Every time. For decades i guess. Lol. These guys are basically North Korea's MKUltra candidates. So I guess there's a whole file on this stuff my other guys read it, but I must've missed the memo on the history of this bullshit. Honestly I'd rather chase Islamic radicals for work. One book. That's it. right wing? Learn a few methods, done. But you leftist grifters? Nah. I gotta read thousands of pages a day just to keep up or I get left behind. It's a joke


1970, police raid on juche collective

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1970/11/18/police-blitz-on-juche-nets-guns/


>>Cambridge police yesterday raided a residence at 452 Franklin Street-the headquarters of the leftist newspaper Juche and the People's Information Center-arresting six men and one woman and confiscating a large quantity of guns and ammunition.



>>The FBI and Cambridge and Boston police had kept the house under surveillance for six months, according to a Cambridge police lieutenant who asked to remain unidentified. Cambridge police obtained a search warrant yesterday.


>>The lieutenant claimed that "there are a lot more guns, actually. The paddy wagon had to make two trips to pick up all the guns.


>>In addition to publishing Juche theory, those arrested had organized a food collective and were starting a free library. They worked with and attempted to organize street people.


>>Another "Juche" group lives in Somerville.


>>drugs were found


thecrimson.com/article/1970/12/16/juche-hearing-is-today-pseven-members/

>>2823025

im gonna LOL at all the looks on your faces when you see modern articles that look exactly like this pop up soon. when you realize the juche cult is real youll be denouncing and mocking them just as much as me and i cant fucking wait i tell ya!

>>2822953
Mark Rudd (a former member of the WU) and Norman Finkelstein have talked about how superficial Maoism was among radicals back then. It didn’t matter what your actual theory was, you were a Maoist because it was the trendy anti-imperialist ideology at the time. They LARPed as Maoists until the Nixon-Mao talks, after which they either had mental breakdowns or in some cases, literally killed themselve

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>find article from Harvard Crimson, Dec 16 1970
>>discover the juche cults origins
>>they publish newspaper, run people's info center, work with Black Panthers
>>cops raid their place
>>find shotguns, riot gear, drugs
>>arrest 7 members after 6 months of surveillance
>>Trial happens December 1970
>>all 7 convicted

>>group says they'll appeal and keep publishing, vows to spread their collective and carry it into the future

>>claims arrests increased support from "freaks, movement people, street people"

>>mfw a North Korean ideology cult got busted by Cambridge PD with weed, speed and shotguns

>>mfw they thought broken bottles and needles were "very effective"
>>mfw one of them, George Katsiaficas, becomes a legit leftist sociologist later
>>houdini gets outted as juche cultist scammer
>>juche lovers still getting drug charges
>>North korea is about to be wiped off the map
>>juche gang stays losing for 50+ years



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