It's very unlikely but since Trump has vocally been calling for annexations and Canada is moving out of the American imperial orbit, is it really possible that a regime change war against Canada is possible?
The US is already funding Albertian separatists and the American bourgesisie want direct ownership over Canadian oil, plus couping carney with somebody else wouldn't be much hard.
Again I would like to support some revolutionary defeatism so i wouldn't mind
Just put the poutine in the bag bro
I just wanna see Doug Ford hang.
Shut up you fucking liberal you need to be liberated by based trvmp
>>2823343>Canada is moving out of the American imperial orbitlook at how your electrical grid and other utilities work. canada is half annexed by the USA already, i think its inevitable america comes in and starts looting the place after they face financial difficulties (like from say AI)
>Canada is moving out of the American imperial orbit
That's highly debatable. Carney has made some noise about this and taken a few real steps. But without Europe on board it's a total non-starter, and their commitment to their own independence has been lackluster to say the least. Frankly we would probably need a nuclear deterrent in order for it to mean anything. I think there is a real segment of our ruling class that would like to accomplish a genuine break with the US, but it's more than just an uphill battle. It would require our government to constantly redirect the natural inclinations of a capitalist economy, which will inevitably be drawn to the US by its proximity and the sheer size of its markets. Carney trying to promote our economic independence while simultaneously doubling down on neoliberalism is a completely incoherent strategy. We would need an economy more like China's in order for it to even be feasible I think.
>Again I would like to support some revolutionary defeatism so i wouldn't mind
I would argue against revolutionary defeatism in the event of an actual attempt an annexation. Canada is an imperialist country yes, and it would technically be an inter-imperialist conflict. However Canada is not an imperial power in its own right, but a hanger on of US imperialism. If the US were to fail in an attempt at annexation (e.g. it is repelled by an insurgency), then it won't lead to Canada emerging to snatch US imperial holdings or fill the power vacuum. But it could lead to a serious collapse of US power and prestige, which would have positive consequences for class struggle around the world. If on the other hand the annexation was successful, it would strengthen US imperialism and even further weaken socialism in Canada (and thats a pretty low bar). In other words, there wouldn't be any benefit to a Canadian defeat for workers in Canada, the US, or anywhere else in the world. But a US defeat would open up the possibility of intensified class struggle in the US and across the globe.
>Hey Grok which Canadian province has the most oil reserves
<Alberta has 97% of Canadas oil
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>2823749>>2823757I mostly want Russia to annex Alaska.
>>2823757>it is properly imperialist even more so than other accepted imperialist nations like JapanI'm not denying that. But having an imperialist economy isn't the same as being an imperial power. If left to its own devices, Canada would be unable to defend its imperialist position in the world economy. It only enjoys this by virtue of US protection. This is why this would be a radically different conflict in comparison to say, WW1 where there was a competition between roughly equal imperial powers, and where the winners could (and did) swallow up the empire of their defeated enemy. Hence the outcome of that war was irrelevant for the proletariat, and revolutionary defeatism on all sides was the only logical choice. That isn't the case here, where Canada could not supplant the US as an independent empire, let alone a world hegemon, and where the outcome could either ossify or radically weaken the existing imperialist order.
>>2823749>>2823757>muh imperial power>muh opressed nationLarp
>>2823763in ww1 terms Canada is Belgium and America is Germany
>This is why this would be a radically different conflict in comparison to say, WW1 Too early to make that assertion. America attempting to annex canada would make every other global power choose sides, we could very well see European forces on Canadian territory defending against america
>>2823778both common terms. Read Lenin
>>2823787>we could very well see European forces on Canadian territory defending against americaThat seems very unlikely seeing as they don't even appear to have the stomach to defend their own territory in Greenland. But even in that case I would still argue against revolutionary defeatism. A socialist revolution in Canada without one in the US would be pointless. It would be swiftly crushed. America needs to become socialist before Canada can even think of it, and that would be far more likely in the event of an US defeat. This would do a lot more to help socialism in Canada than a Canadian defeat would, since the latter would just mean we're absorbed into a new anti-communist regime and have achieved precisely nothing.
If the US were to invade it would be the job of L
Albertian communists to destroy the oil reserves, after all thats what the Americans want
Bump
I think canadians should agitate for war against america, to destablize global imperialism.
Perhaps if trump makes another comment, and then an american railway or something gets blown up by canadian terrorists, it would be quite the crisis
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>>2823343Trump is a retard
>>2846748Tbh I really do think a Canada invaded by America would 100% win a guerilla war and eventually force the Americans back out again and they would most likely be backed up by secret Russian or Chinese assistance. Drones have permanently changed the balance of power and Canada is so large and is so under-developed in the interior and northern regions that guerilla forces would have plenty of different hiding places they could secretly operate out of. However a major weakness for them is that the Canadian military is heavily integrated in NATO and basically anyone who is high-ranking that is opposed to an American takeover would be killed within the first month, leaving most of the work up to the civilian population.
>>2855329>Canada invaded by America would 100% win a guerilla war and eventually force the Americans back out again sounds unlikely. Unless the US were stupid enough to create serious discrimination like refusing them any political representation, I wouldnt even bet on any significant resistance that could endure their large scale, surveillance powered death squad anti insurgency tactics.
>most likely be backed up by secret Russian or Chinese assistancewhich wouldnt be able to do shit. How would they even smuggle anything in. The US would literally control all the land and sea around them.
>Drones have permanently changed the balance of power yes, but thats only relevant if you have a population ready to fight under harsh conditions during asymmetric warfare, and some ability to get those drones in the first place.
>>2855456>Unless the US were stupid enough to create serious discrimination like refusing them any political representationI promise you that at the very least the current administration is 100% retarded and understands nothing about this country, its culture, its internal contradictions, or how these are currently managed. Even the idea of making it a single state is laughably absurd to anybody who knows anything about Canadian politics. They would fuck it up, which would at least lead to non-violent resistance, which they would repress violently, which would spark violent resistance. At the very least they wouldn't want to add 35 million new voters who would almost all lean towards the Democeats.
>>2823789In the 20th century where agrarian feudal states still existed
>>2855467By the time the US invades canada the US wont have elections anymore
Revive
>>2855515They will always have elections. Even Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain had them
>>2823757what exactly is this image from anyway
>>2862154Fuck knows. It's so dismembered from whatever it was previously part of and all context that it is utterly useless, it's just a good signifier to know that you're talking to that anon, and preceding to ignore him.
>>2862154apparently theres a historical materialism conference and this data (linked by sabo) was is a result of that
>>2823756>Hey Grok which Canadian province has the most oil reservesIt is the occupied territory of Alberta, which is under the oppression of the woke communists in Ottawa. Everyday, Albertans suffer under conditions comparable to the white genocide in South Africa. If Elon Musk, the most intelligent man in the world, were premier, it would be the richest country in the world.
>>2855456>sounds unlikely. Unless the US were stupid enough to create serious discrimination like refusing them any political representation, I wouldnt even bet on any significant resistance that could endure their large scale, surveillance powered death squad anti insurgency tactics.considering the rhetoric from annexationists and from a lot of americans is them proclaiming they'll turn the country into a territory i don't think people will lie down for that
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