Fuck whoever deleted the other thread edition
No links because the previous links are shit af
Previous thread:
>>2813124News: Iran cucking out just when fun was starting
Why tf was is deleted
>>2827414the previous OP made fun of islamists so it probably was mass reported by burger campists that cannot fathom the idea that there are middle east communists here that hate the islamist porkies and capitalist states, including Cuckran
>>2827422Lmao. Mensheviks would be proud
>>2827490i dont know, but it means lesser evil bullshit for impotent westard leftoids, principally yank leftoids, that hate revolutionary defeatism so they need to quotemine a guy that purged a bunch of bolsheviks to simp for capitalist states and lash out at third world communists that dont want to collaborate with their local bourgeoisie like yanks do by voting blue not matter who every four years
>>2827414It was a troll OP but we just posted in it anyway. If they were going to delete it they should have done it sooner, not waited days.
>>2827522Well, I do. And it came from a guy that went "neither Washington, not Moscow", but constantly sided with Washington. A "trot" that got expelled by Trotsky himself, and is responsible for every Trot stereotype in the West, including the turning into a neocon.
>>2827542>If they were going to delete it they should have done it sooner, not waited days.malicious compliance
>>2827548name the guy. i really wanna know. i'm sick of the stupd ass "campist" thought terminating term and i wanna know what fuckface it's associated with
>@20:05 The Russians are stopping the colonialism of Western Europe the way Hezbollah is stopping the colonialism of Israel or for that matter the Palestinians in Gaza.https://www.youtube.com/live/NErlGTTJVsk?si=ZbWGGbZDpbj0Yu3N&t=1205hey guys is big dick "coops" wolf a red fash tankie?
>>2827522>that hate revolutionary defeatismactually we love rev def. it just doesnt apply to national liberation struggles and never did
>>2827414I reported it for fake news and bait trolling OP, which it was. Not like anyone had posted anything interesting in it anyway, so I commend the mods for this one. My main complaint is they dont ban the obvious glowies enough.
>>2827522>that hate revolutionary defeatism I have never once seen an iranian in those threads, so all criticism of iran was objectively helping the imperialists in their propaganda war and literally the exact opposite of revolutionary defeatism. Those like you pushing such a line are basically glowies. And lol at seething at stalin when it was also the leninist line, but I guess you are a low grade glowtards just parroting liberal propaganda who have never read any actual communist literature.
>>2827564>>2827562>>2827561all of you are DSA members, you collaborate with US bourgeois imperialist party, this is why you hate when middle east Communists make fun of islamist capitalist states instead of defending them, you scream glowie or mossad here when third worlders dont want to collaborate with their bourgeois apparatus just like you do in /usapol/ when people tell you to not dickride Platner
third world communists will do revolutionary defeatism you like it or not and will keep making fun capitalist states you like it or not
>>2827576>accusing me of being DSAHmm… smells like… newfag.
>>2827582doesnt matter where you live you are most likely a member of whatever is the equivalent of DSA there, you are the eternal SPD
>>2827576Im not even a burger you retarded bitch
and try to actually read a marxist book once in your life before claiming to be communist you glowie fuck
>>2827576Your hero Shachtman would vote for Platner.
wait what is happening? how is iran cucking?
>>2827607Just more "le inter-imperialist conflict" memeing.
What is the materialist reason for Iran only sending like 20% of its missiles to Israel and sending the other 80% attacking fellow Islamic countries?
Like they've been aura farming about how they're gonna destroy Israel and when the time actually comes they attack other Muslims????
>>2827614USA-Israel military bases in the countries directly adjacent to Iran have/had radars and missile interception systems that served to protect Israel and counterattack launch sites in Iran. So without destroying those first they would have wasted whatever missiles they fired at Israel.
>>2827607>how is iran cucking?by being a porky occupied goverment instead of a DOTP
>>2827576every one of these assertions is a miss
>>2827614>>2827615Also they are easier to attack because of their proximity, their terrain is very hard to defend and, as it turns out, they have weaker air defense systems.
The main reason is that closing off the Strait of Hormuz causes much more damage to the collective US-Israeli-Gulf alliance that any bombing campaign against Israel. The petromonarchies depend on the trade of very specific commodities that can be disrupted by Iran without any effort. Israel on the other hand is guided by an insane fascistic ideology. The reason why their state still exists and gets infinite funding from the US is because it only exists for the sake of fighting. Such a country is impossible to pressure or negotiate with.
>>2827586>>2827576kafka trap troll, disengage and report
>>2827576if anything the max schactman guy tank anon was talking about who was pro-vietnam war has more in common with the founder of DSA …
Israel is being attritted so hard by Hezbollah and their drone videos it will reach Tripoli by the end of the year
>>2827614Geez, it's as if racial analysis of the world is incorrect…
>>2827522>that hate revolutionary defeatism i don't hate revolutionary defeatism anon. next time maybe ask me what i think instead of going on the offensive with a strawman like this.
>yank leftoidsI don't know for sure, but is it possible that yank leftoids are the ones who hate revolutionary defeatism, and are the ones saying "campism" all the time, because they need to rationalize their own refusal to do revolutionary defeatism based on the fact that proles in countries getting bombed by america don't do it first… ? Is it really that surprising that when you bomb people into oblivion it creates a rally around the flag effect usually?
>>2827795trump will just keep losing to iran and saying he is winning and then make it his democrat successor's job to surrender and pay reparations. this way republicans will get infinite political fuel out of being able to cry that democrats are giving iran free money, which is how trump characterized JCPOA
>>2827614>What is the materialist reason for [Shia] Iran only sending like 20% of its missiles to [Jewish] Israel and sending the other 80% attacking fellow [Sunni] Islamic countries? Narcissism of small differences. Abrahamoids hate each other more than they hate Atheists, and Abrahamoids in the same religion hate other sects more than they hate other Abrahamoid religions. And Abrahamoids who go to the same synagogue, mosque, or church hate each other more than they hate other places of worship, and finally abrahamoids hate themselves more than they hate other people who are like them.
It's very similar to how Bolsheviks and Mensheviks hate each other more than anticommunists.
>>2827614Because Iran's greatest leverage is the damage it can cause to the world's petroleum infrastructure, which is located in the Gulf. No damage they could do to Israel would be fatal, but the damage they could cause to global energy markets is severe enough that it can force the US to back off.
>>2828079vibe analysis. garbage. correct answers:
>>2827615 >>2827695 Islamist schizos mass reported the thread to islamist mods for a claim made by Iranian state media that they assigned to the Mossad
>post Iranian state propaganda >removed for being DA MOSSAAAADDo you realize how tone deaf you cocksuckers are?
>>2827576Good post
>>2827576Based post."Anti-imperialism" and "opressed nations" is part of the rot of the western left.
>>2828226Yeah, yeah, when's the land invasion, Langley?
>>2827588If you need to read books to be a communist it was never in your class interest anyway
>>2828300But is it in their individual interests?
>>2828301Individual class interests
>Engels was literally a factory owner
Just a matter of time before glowies start falsifying communism.
>>2828308Communism is already a falsification of Christianity anyway
>>2828567How fucking retarded would someone have to be to believe this shit?
>>2828289>"Anti-imperialism" and "opressed nations" is part of the rot of the western left.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm
>Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the advanced countries has outgrown the boundaries of national states.It has established monopoly in place of competition, thus creating all the objective prerequisites for the achievement of socialism. Hence, in Western Europe and in the United States of America, the revolutionary struggle of the proletariat for the overthrow of the capitalist governments, for the expropriation of the bourgeoisie, is on the order of the day. Imperialism is forcing the masses into this struggle by sharpening class antagonisms to an immense degree, by worsening the conditions of the masses both economically—trusts and high cost of living, and politically—growth of militarism, frequent wars, increase of reaction, strengthening and extension of national oppression and colonial plunder. Victorious socialism must achieve complete democracy and, consequently, not only bring about the complete equality of nations, but also give effect to the right of oppressed nations to self-determination, i.e., the right to free political secession. Socialist Parties which fail to prove by all their activities now, as well as during the revolution and after its victory, that they will free the enslaved nations and establish relations with them on the basis of a free union and a free union is a lying phrase without right to secession—such parties would be committing treachery to socialism.https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1937/06/solidarity-spain.htm
>We, the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese Red Army, and the Chinese Soviets, regard the war led by the Spanish Republican government as the most holy war in the world. This war is being fought not only for the life of the Spanish nation, but also for the oppressed nations of the world because the Spanish government is fighting German and Italian fascism which, with their Spanish henchmen, are destroying the culture and civilisation, and the human justice of the world. The Spanish government and the Spanish people are fighting German and Italian fascists who are actively in league with and giving support to the Japanese fascist invaders of China in the Far East. Japanese fascists are directing their full strength against China. After the occupation of our Manchurian Provinces, they advanced into North China. Were it not for the support they receive from German and Italian fascism they would never be so mad, so wild, as they are today in their invasion of our country.Noted Western Leftists Mao Zedong and Vladimir Lenin
>>2828310you are a falsification of making sense
Fine. Trust your "senior Israeli intelligence source" and Israeli journalist. Your retarded beliefs don't matter.
>>2828574I think that forcing the US and the West in general to choose between Israel and NATO would probably be enough to make even the most vicious Zionists think twice. No doubt they'd like to lay low every country in the region larger than Lebanon, but picking a fight with a NATO member would probably be beyond the limit of what their benefactors would tolerate.
>>2828602NATO is already dead as no estonian believes america will be sending troops to defend its soil anymore, they made their choice to back to zionists a long time ago
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-no-reason-to-exist-italian-defense-minister-us-europe-summit-giorgia-meloni-mark-rutte-guido-crosetto/ Pezeshkian resigning? Anyone know if this is real?
>>2827522>>2827576>>2828226Based, but one more important thing. It's not just Western leftoids. It's also Islamic nationalists pretending to be communists.
And also unironic glowies of BOTH Western countries and China/Russia/Iran. Western glowies and CRI axis glowies are also afriad of any of their bourgeois wars turning into a war against the ruling class.
Trump is visiting Israel month before election
Miriam adelson owns israelhayom newspaper btw. Her and her husband have given trump over 700 million dollars since 2016 in donations so this is reliable information as it comes from Trump's boss miriam
>Israel Hayom (Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל הַיּוֹם, lit.'Israel Today') is an Israeli Hebrew-language free daily newspaper. Distributed for free around Israel,[6] it is the country's most widely distributed newspaper.[7][2] Owned by the family of Sheldon Adelson, the casino mogul and political donor, Israel Hayom has been noted for its right-wing editorial stance and coverage of Israeli politics, often sparking debate about its political alignment.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Hayomhttps://www.israelhayom.com/2026/05/31/us-considers-trump-visit-to-israel-in-september/Miga
>>2828632Fake news, he will visit TURKEY.
>>2828632Iran has the opportunity to do the funniest thing of all time
>>2828737Chuck Schumer is a waste of carbon.
>>2828984If only fake news would just keep glazing him a little harder, then we'd have a peace deal!
I'm so sick of waiting for Israel to be fully destroyed. Is this going to go on forever like Ukraine and Afghanistan
>>2828574>>2828567anon, israel can declare a full out sanction regime imposed to turkey, and turkey could impose a stricter comercial trade ban with israel.
if both wanted it.
>>2829070america has a sanction regime on iran and can't even stop them from selling oil to China. this is a delusional take
>>2829070sanctions don't mean anything anymore. Over half the world is either sanctioned or tarriffed by the US. It's the new cost of doing business.
>campists this campists that
reminder that when WTO and IMF owners, backed by a bunch of trade war weapons stated Either with us or against us, they chose for you what camp you are in.
so it's either you are with them or against them, and until proven wrong, you are with them.
>>2829072>>2829078if sanctions mean shit, then put them. after all, they mean squat.
it would be interesting to see if there is a baby bump coinciding with the internet outage in the next months
>>2829124Iranian women are feminazis
>>2828951>it will all work out well in the endfrom his perspective thats always been and always be true. He is rich, worse thing that can happen, he is not reelected, but he still gonna be super powerful and live in luxury, his failures cant actually have harsh consequences for him
still a big loss for the US empire though
>>2829120>>2829109he's on a loop.
that's why I shrug off comments like 'cuckistan' or whatevs.
>>2829082if you submit to georges bush logic to define your political stance you still submit to georges bush logic even if it's in a contrarian way and you just circle back to being mossad epstein like those guys
https://pmli.it/articoli/2015/20151015_scuderiletussupporttheislamicstate.html >The U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is less than 10 days away from falling to its lowest level since August 1983- over 15,625 days ago- a level not seen since the SPR's initial fill-up that began in 1977.
the energy crisis (hasn't started yet) is about to start (not IF). the only thing remaining to consider is how serious and for how long it'll be.
>>2829224India and South Korea finna go fash just watch
>>2829226India already is tho.
>>2829214the problem with that note is that you can trace back isil with the US funding.
I am very selective to what I support, or rather, I rather want to see who or what makes the US bitch about it the most.
>if you submit to georges bush logic to define your political stanceI am sorry to tell you, but he impossed that on everyone, not just me.
PS: no president after bush took that back.
>>2829226>>2829230both are pretty fucking close to it tbh, its just SK recently failed its fascist coup while modi apparently doesnt yet need to go full fash
>>2829230hindu nationalists need to cement single party control and cancel elections first
>>2829178>vetical youtube shorts>bad actor>doesn't even sound or look like him>AI generated subtitiles full of tons of misspellings damn …. people
like this shit?
>Itamar Ben Gvir: "Now is the time to tell our friend, President Trump, 'No'"
Imperialist unity status????
>>2829249And the source?
Nowhere to be seen, as usual
>>2829252Ben Gvir just tweeted it and I don't have an account there so feel free to check yourself
>>2829254You could literally screenshot it
>>2829256other media is reporting on it but I had a suspicion you'd freak out if I linked that instead
>>2829249They always have Chynah on their side, so they don't have to worry about standing up to Drumpf from time to time.
>>2829260Just link or post a screenshot you fucking retard
>>2829277Psychopaths bullying psychopaths
>>2829277Whole new levels of fake and gay.
>>2829283If you think Bibi is a psychopath, you should see his kid.
>>2829297What's wrong with them?
>>2829301Ah yes, the man who tweeted "children of light" and massacres Palestinian children is weak
>>2829302According to his son, yes. Dude got banned from Facebook for anti-islamic posting.
>>2829304Is it the same son that runs a podcast?
>>2829297>you should see his kidhe just sits in miami all day next to the pool. the real extremist is sara netanyahu, her family background is actually insane
>>2829309Yair Netanyahu, yes. Also, may have assaulted daddy.
>>2829311I fully understand why the Romanovs were shot now
>>2829310>the wifeShe's more of a… champagne fascist. :^)
>>2829315He wrote the article, yes.
>>2829310>her family background is actually insaneQRD?
>>2829224Peak consumption is normally during August
>>2829359>unleash the handsReactionaries still talk like they're fucking anime characters.
Is war over?
So when is the oil shock coming in?
Idea Of Dubai status?
>>2829613Idea was dead since day one because of cringe
>>2829312This is literally one of those late era Brandon "leaks"
>Generalissimo Biden SHOCKS Netanyahu, tells him to "GET BENT", "From the river to the sea". Weapons shipments to be CUT OFF in the next two weeks >Israelis are increasingly defining their identity in Jewish rather than national terms, even as attitudes toward Diaspora Jewry become increasingly isolationist, according to a survey published by the Diaspora Affairs Ministry on Monday.
>The study, published as part of the ministry’s Diaspora Week initiative, found that 57% of Israeli Jews now define themselves as “Jewish first,” compared with 34% in last year’s survey. That’s the highest level recorded in the past decade, and comes at a time when many fear that Israeli and Diaspora communities are drifting farther apart than ever on issues related to Israeli politics and security.its over
https://www.timesofisrael.com/more-israelis-now-define-identity-as-jewish-first-amid-shifting-diaspora-ties-survey-finds/ >>2829712lol the state of Israel is facing demographic collapse hell yeah good fucking riddance
>>2829870I think I know what the retarded plan is now.
>pretend the "nuclear dust" is a bomb or will be one soon>give everything Iran asked for if they at least hand over the uranium>the US can claim all nuclear threat from Iran is gone>hopefully that will make Israel happy too>the enriched uranium they have isn't much of anything in reality so Iran should technically be fine handing it over>The US and Iran can both claim victory and leave the warHowever, Iran knows the uranium is the US's way out to declare a fake victory and they also know the US will just keep attacking Iran if they ever hold onto any enriched uranium again. They are right to keep it and hold the line even if it means they would gain a lot more including the strait. It shows they aren't being pussies about it.
>>2829942They have no plan
>>2830066The plan is to transform prole tax money in bourgeois net worth by a savant melange of bombing and stock market manipulation
IRGC officially announces attack on US Navy’s 5th Fleet with missiles and drones
IRGC says the US struck an Iranian oil tanker near the Strait of Hormoz, damaging its engine room + IRGC telecommunications mast south of Qeshm Island.
In response, the IRGC says it targeted:
• A vessel named ‘Panaya’ with anti-ship missiles
• A US air/helicopter base in a regional country [likely Arifjan]
• The HQ of the US Navy 5th Fleet with missiles and drones
The statement warns that any further disruption of security in the Strait of Hormoz will bring a heavier response
Wake up faggots
the imperialist-negotiating "anti-imperialists" fell for for it again
>>2830317mmm and what would you have done differently. don't say what you WOULDN'T have done, say what you WOULD have done. we wanna laugh at what your strategy would have been, not hear about how "it is le bad to answer le phone call from le enemy"
>Q: Axios reported that you … said, "Are you F-ing crazy? What are you F-ing doing? I helped you still out of jail”
>Trump: I did
>"I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon,” Trump said. The attacks have imperiled US-Iran peace talks due to Tehran’s insistence that the Israeli targeting of Hezbollah cease before a deal is reached to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and then dismantle Iran’s nuclear program.
israel is so fucked lol
>>2830556Trump isn't going to do shit, buddy. This is just copying Biden's PR playbook 'and he raised his voice yadda yadda.'
>>2830560is beirut being blown to smithereens right now? no? then big yahu got his collar yanked by trump, something biden wasn't capable of
>According to reports, Trump is “steamrolling” Netanyahu while threatening to isolate him and highlighting American assistance as his lifeline. According to reports, Netanyahu gave in, at least momentarily, withdrawing from a significant incursion into Beirut while insisting that Israel would retaliate for any further attacks. Netanyahu was accused by both opposition and right-wing Israeli critics of caving in and making Israel a “client state.” Trump’s strategy is similar to that of his predecessors in that it emphasizes de-escalation in order to facilitate a “deal.” However, this runs the risk of making the same mistake as in 1982.
>Allies disagree; that’s the nature of sovereign nations with overlapping but not identical interests. Whether short-term diplomatic appearances result in long-term strategic advantages is the litmus test for statesmanship. Allowing Israel to complete the fight against Hezbollah in Lebanon, as in previous instances, might be the difficult but essential route to undermining Iran and achieving wider peace. Whether 2026 repeats the mistakes of 1982 or breaks the cycle will be determined by history. they're pissed
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-recurring-dance-of-allies/ >>2828573(notice how anon ignored this)
>>2830604Why the fuck would they ever acknowledge arguments that destroy them? They have no good faith. They have no integrity. If they aren't glowies, they're doing it for free, and they deserve to die all the same.
>good post>based postWho the fuck talks like that, anymore?
>CRI axis glowiesAnd this is literal glowie projection.
>>2828623 Is an actual agent, because "concern" about glowies from enemies of the West is an accusation that is a confession. We literally have evidence of FBI pushing anti-Russia shit on 8/pol/. We know nothing about other intel agencies shitposting online trying to "control the narrative". While CIA openly degenerated into a bureau of propaganda.
>>2830899>Why the fuck would they ever acknowledge arguments that destroy them? They have no good faith.yes that's why i point out when they suddenly stop running their mouths. it's "deafening"
>>2831045Normies see this and think something ranging between "better them than us" and "this sucks but I don't want that to happen to me or my kids so I won't stand up against it"
>>2831100Americans really have no collective conscious. There are too many people who think that but there are also just as many that recognize it, feel horrible, and don't know what else to do besides dissociate, hang their head, and keep going to work.
>>2831235One - Just build your own aircraft industry 4Head
>Here is the part most of us never think about. By American law, the aid money we get has to be spent buying American weapons. For years, we had a special arrangement that allowed us to spend about a quarter of it on building our own arms at home. That exception is now being phased out on purpose, because Washington would rather the money create jobs in Ohio than in Haifa. So a huge share of “aid to Israel” is really a check handed straight to Lockheed and Boeing, while our own defense companies wait in line. Think about how backward that is: our security budget builds factories in America while our engineers sit idle. Then we have to politely ask Washington not to delay the weapons we have already paid for.Two - How fucking entitled do you have to be about literal gifts?
https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdIstan/hpg-heqi-yoldasimiz-Iran-saldirisinda-sehadete-ulasti-229464A potential strain on the de-facto non aggression pact between Tehran and Qandil.
>"On the night of May 30th, a group of our comrades were traveling from one place to another when they attempted to cross a stream near the village of Zêvê in the Qeleniyê (Çaldıran Plain) region. During this crossing, they fell into an ambush set by Iranian forces. The Iranian forces, noticing our guerrillas, opened fire and attacked our forces. In this clash, our comrade Heqî Karer was martyred, and two Iranian soldiers were wounded."<It is disturbing that our friend was martyred in such a treacherous ambush against a group that posed no harm to anyone. It is clear that a reassessment will be considered if such behavior continues. >>2831331fell for it again award incoming?
>>2831332I actually do not think it will degrade because the current status quo is very beneficial to both sides.
For Iran it means their border areas are functionally secure because it is the only Kurdish faction with real movement within Iranian borders, for Qandil it allows focus on other fronts and a more secure base area to maneuver and so on, as well as giving some freedom to do their organizing work in these areas.
>>2831445>Stalinism isn't even a thingTell that to Hoxha
>>2831445Some of you cunts are truly inventive at devising the least funny shit known to man
>>2831447sorry that u are upset
>>2831455I accept your concession
>>2831447>>2831473ok i think its time for you to elaborate on your problems with the post
>>2831447yes hello friend. what gave you the impression that the post was supposed to be funny? is the information incorrect?
>>2831483>>2831476You cunts have absolutely zero self awareness and are likely 18 or younger
>>2831484what content of the post gives you the impression that the submitter is underage or has no self awareness?
>>2831486The fact that it's so extremely unfunny you boring little twat
Continue filling this site with "LEFTYPOL GANGGANGGANGGANG LMAO" tier images; the sooner you kill it the better
"LOL I R MARXIST I CAN HAZ MUDKIPZ XDDDDDD"
Some of you are so deeply disconnected from reality that what you mistake with petulant disregard for pure whim is in fact cold hard truth waiting to strike, sooner rather than later
LOL WE R MARXISTS LOOK I MADE IMAGE
Kill yourselves
>Leftcoms
>truth
ok, fucktard
>>2831487is the purpose of propaganda to be funny? is the information incorrect?
how do you reconcile bordigas claim to continuity with his rejection of the ussr? do you disagree with the proposition that there is theoretical continuity from marx to stalin? do you think the poster is a sincere leftcom?
what kind of positive contributions would you like to see to leftypol in the future? do you think your current posts meet that objective?
>>2831535This guy looks ridiculous
>mods took down the anti class collaboration thread for materially proving hezbollah and western leftists are cucks (no counter argument 50 replies in)
>10 pedo threads up around the same time
Perplexing!
>>2831655Also one user was literally doing apologia for the Iran-backed ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Iraq and Syria saying "PALI CHILDREN ARE LE
HAMAS ISIS" with no repercussions
>>2831579is analysis supposed to be entertaining?
>>2831646>looksreally anon?
>Tfw the Iran thread was actually hosting actual discussion on the war for a good moment and now we're back to arguing over who is the glowie and who should be doing revolutionary defeatism.
China is the reason why Oil prices arent skyrocketing
https://www.ft.com/content/ef6f00c5-4f2d-4fd3-a6cc-f65081bb1248?syn-25a6b1a6=1#comments-anchorChina reduced imports and is drawing down inventory.
This won't last forever of course. What happens once oil prices spike?
>>2831977>What happens once oil prices spike?Russia makes a ton of money
>>2831843Any thread that has a decently high posting count always does this. It feels like it's the same two retards traveling between all the threads arguing with each other.
>>2831655>mods took down the anti class collaboration threadclassic, iron felix is right when he says this is an anti-communist website, I dont think its because the mods are anti-communists, but everytime someone opposes class collaborationism you get called fed glowie mossad, doesnt matter the context (iran thread, burgerpol thread, etc.), and you get reported en masse by chauvinists that think just because they are class cucks everyone else needs to be one too, so mods are eventually forced to give in to this counter-revolutionary majority thats always calling for the subordination of the working class to the interests of some bourgeois apparatus
at the end only class cuck posts remain since non-class-cucks get banned and all their posts are deleted, and this is how the prevailing ideology of the website becomes anti-communist
>>2832039
>Marxism Leninism in practice is actual existing class collaboration, but with the supremacy of the proletariat enshrined into law
and the USSR doesn't exist anymore, against the interests of the proletariat, despite of this legal supremacy you talk about, I wonder if it has anything to do with this class collaborationism thing
maybe learn from the mistakes of the past instead of pushing for their reproduction because of your 20th century fetish?
>>2832050
>That would be the fault of infiltration by your comrades in the western left following Stalin’s assassination
Worst dogshit cope i have ever heard.
>being torn appart from the inside by mentally retarded nationalists who were given a job in the giga bloated party while the gigaoldfag hardliners died en mass from alcoholism since birth is the fault of… michel foucault bro…
>>2832064
It is a fact the CPSU was completely compromised by petty nationalists and ethnonarcissists with an axe to grind despite being given DEI jobs for decades while the brave men trying to reform it and end this madness started to die one by one at the age of 70 due to lifelong alcoholism. The petty nationalists ended imploding the entire structure in order to loot the copper wires and become rich men so they could do great things with the money like being murdered by mobsters or buying cool prostitutes which is the most subversive thing ever.
In fact Russian and Ukrainian cadres were the only one trying to salvage the whole thing as the DEI hires started looting everything so i don't know why you are calling me russophobic.
>CPSU was infiltrated by Portland antifa or wathever
>>2832080
was kruschev a cia agent now or something
>>2832089
unfortunate that the powerful and flawless cpsu which had no bad strains in it beforehand was obliterated overnight by anticommunist revisionist wreckers who came from nowhere and had the entire power of god to simply overwrite the entire party smh
Can you guys shut the fuck up and talk about Iran please? None of your hyper-granular interparty squabbling and finger point matters. Tying your own hands behind your back instead of moving forward.
>>2832099
>Bukharin bad in enormous christpilled 2026
>>2832050
>That would be the fault of infiltration by your comrades in the western left following Stalin’s assassination.
KEK
>Russia the second most as its communist party is largely in power.
KEEEEEEEK
In good faith I'm going to assume you're a trolling leftcom, there's no way you're this retarded
>>2832099
>communists didn't kill and torture each other enough
>they aren't communists btw because i said so
>>2831843everyone should be doing revolutionary defeatism but since that is unlikely i nominate the most imperialist countries to do it first
Iran war ended btw they just signed a ceasefire
I think this might be an inter-imperialist conflict
>>2832101
Unless you define the Democrats and other western "centrists" as leftists, you're full of shit when you say the left is "enabling" the Iran war.
>>2832261le western left could end the gaza genocide if they wiggled their fingers really hard, firebomb walmart and yelled at veterans for being sick fucks. this would cause le empire to collapse because public opinion would be really really really against war ok
>>2832275firebombing walmart is reactionary and adventurist. i prescribe reading clausewitz, joe slovo, and vo nguyen giap so you can fee like an armchair general until you die
uh oh trouble in paradise
>The reported decision by the Pentagon to raise the Israeli counterintelligence threat level to the highest category is not a sentimental episode of mistrust between allies. It is a procedural reclassification. Washington has not suddenly discovered that allies gather information on one another. It has begun to treat Israeli proximity to American decision-making as a risk that must be managed, restricted, and technically contained.
>Israel is not being abandoned by Washington. It is being filtered by Washington. That is the new and dangerous category: partner, but monitored; ally, but restricted; necessary, but no longer innocent.
>Trump’s intervention over Lebanon was therefore not a clash of personalities. It was an operational disclosure of hierarchy. Israel was told to stop, Netanyahu stopped, and everyone was then invited to pretend that this was still coordination between equals. It was not. It was the language of a patron correcting a dependent actor whose escalation had become inconvenient.
>This is why the phrase “a total protectorate” cut so deeply. It named what the official language tries to hide. Israel can still act, but its action is increasingly being enclosed inside an American threshold of permission, tolerance, and strategic convenience. A sovereign state may launch an operation, but a dependent state discovers afterward whether that operation remains admissible to the power on which it relies. https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israels-double-reclassification/>>2832636>Trump’s intervention over Lebanon was therefore not a clash of personalities. It was an operational disclosure of hierarchy. Israel was told to stop, Netanyahu stopped, and everyone was then invited to pretend that this was still coordination between equals. It was not. It was the language of a patron correcting a dependent actor whose escalation had become inconvenient.ZOGposters on suicide watch. Israel is an arm of US imperialism. A viscious, aggressive, rapid arm that often strains or tries fo break its leash, but an arm nonetheless. The Israelis of course have their own interests and try to pursue them even when the US doesn't approve, but when Washington cracks the whip they always back off.
>>2832163are we still believing this, or are you merely b8ing for the sake of getting (You)s?
>>2832636I don't think this is "trouble". in fact, the congress just passed a law that would effectively make israel military budget absolutely participant of US tax dollars for military spending.
The Section 224 of the
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2296/textwhich basically reads:
>the Secretary of Defense must designate an executive agent to synchronize U.S.-Israel defense technology cooperation, including research, development, testing, evaluation, integration, industrial cooperation, joint ventures, licensing, and U.S.-based co-production >>2832877>Netanyahu Says Israel's Goal Is to 'Build an Independent Arms Industry' and 'Phase Out' U.S. Economic Aid
>Speaking in Jerusalem, Netanyahu told U.S. Jewish establishment leaders that Israel aims to 'move with the United States, from aid to partnership.'
>The Israeli prime minister wrote a letter to Republican Congressman Marlin Stutzman endorsing a bill facilitating that transition.
<Referencing the letter on Thursday, Khanna argued that Section 224 “directly” follows Netanyahu’s language.seems like israels attempted end goal here is an independent military that can survive on its own legs without american aid. is this worth ending big subsidies for american military contractors? you decide
>>2832913its pure fiction and internal propaganda, israel would simply collapse if it had to pay for its own military
>>2832913>is this worth ending big subsidies for american military contractors?the figure of a
>executive agent is responsible for >"synchronizing cooperative efforts between the United States and Israel"is basically a replacement word for
>big subsidies for american militarythe executive can go under the table, negotiate without scrutinizing eyes any amount of money, and will be a subsidize.
>>2832999There’s not enough jews in the world to conquer and occupy all that land, there’s like 100 million egyptians and 50 million iraqis, this map is bonkers, insanity, Hitler’s plan was more realistic and that didn’t work
>>2833083It doesn't matter what you believe is possible or not. Israels going to attempt to do it because in their mind they think they have no choice
>>2833083Greater Israel is more of a long-term project for Israelis. They're trying to populate the West Bank with Jewish settlers and their child brides as fast as they can but the birthrate isn't high enough even with every settler having like 10 kids. The plan is to just occupy the entire territory and populate it over centuries or just turn it into a arab-free buffer zone with nothing but military bases. Lunatics.
>>2833090They are also trying to sell the illegally claimed territory to euros too. There is a whole real estate market that Britian allows where they target jews and offer them cheap homes to move into without being up front about where it's located in Israel, turns out its not.
>>2833119Those British Jews know exactly what they're doing, don't pretend otherwise lol.
>>2833122Most do but I didn't hear about it until one jew whistle blew it and made a video about it.
>>2833083ai enabled humanoid robots will do the job
finally the new real fighting round?
>>2827522>>2827522Objectively the Labour led British Empire did a lot more damage to the global communist movement than the Emir of Afghanistan.
Objectively the Labour led British Empire has more funds and more options to do damage to the global communist movement than the Emir of Afghanistan.
So whatever weakens the Empire, gives us room to breathe, simple as.
Now going full "what, this isn't my ideal version of communist, so I am siding with USA and Israel until they get it right" my way or the highway bullshit, is just blatant cointelpro.
An early warning is issued in northern Israel amid an Iranian missile attack.
Sirens are expected to sound in the coming minutes.
The IDF says it has detected the launch of missiles from Iran, and is working to intercept the threat.
total zionazi death
>>2833609It begins again. How long until Iran blows up a bunch more oil infrastructure?
>>2833615what I wonder is where are the 'cuckriran' people now.
>>2833620Bold of you to think they won't come right back once there is another lull in missile launches.
In the previous cases Iran only responded
I wonder what made them take the initiative this time
>>2833637the rats wanted to attack beirut
we told them them that if they do, we'd bomb them
they attacked lebanon
we bombed them
>>2833539Why is israel purposely provoking the neutral Lebanese military? The government of Lebanon and the Lebanese army is standing back and cededing its lands to israel and allowing them to ethnically cleans their former citizens. I mean this commander might have even been on of the lynchpins in preventing mass defection to Hezballoh.
>>2833656I think they want to provoke a civil war. I don't think they care if they weaken a friendly government. They just want chaos.
>>2833656>>2833660i think they would be extremely happy if a new civil war was to break out., they recently attacked christian neighbourhoods in Tyre/Sur even though they though they are supposed to be allies. saying they will keep attacking them until they get rid of the shi'a.
Iran opens support front for Lebanon after Israeli attack on BeirutLebanon is ground zero for this escalation.
Today there was an Israeli attack on this neighbourhood in the southern suburb in Beirut. That instigated the Iranian retaliation because Tehran already warned Israel a week ago that whenever there is an attack on Beirut or the southern suburbs, there’s going to be a retaliation.
Today, we are witnessing a different pattern. In the past, when the war erupted against Iran, it was Hezbollah that launched rockets to open a support front. Now it seems that the Iranians are opening their own support front towards their ally in Lebanon.
However, the next hours should tell a lot in case there is an Israeli attack on Iran, and how Hezbollah is going to respond.
Iran-backed Iraqi armed group warns US not to get involvedKataib Hezbollah has warned the Trump administration that it will target US bases and interests in Iraq and the wider region if it intervenes in the escalation between Iran and Israel.
Trump tells media outlets he is calling Netanyahu, telling him not to respondSeveral media outlets, including Axios and Israel’s Channel 12, are reporting that Donald Trump told them he is calling Benjamin Netanyahu to tell him not to respond to Iran’s strikes.
Axios reporter Barak Ravid said on X that Trump also told him that he was “very close” to striking a deal with Iran to permanently end the war, adding that he did not want the diplomatic process to “blow up” because of Iran’s attack on Israel.
“The Iranian strikes didn’t hurt anybody. Hopefully, Israel is not going to retaliate. If Bibi strikes them back, it’s just gonna keep going like the last 47 years, or the last 3,000 years,” Trump said, as reported by Axios.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/6/7/iran-war-live-israel-kills-lebanon-general-pakistan-urges-end-to-war >>2833660>>2833673How likely is a civil war? How much of the Lebanese population is going to side with israel who's currently killing Lebanese people indiscriminately? It seems like they're just opening another front on their genocide without any strategic reason or long term planning.
>>2833688
Ravid is currently on AJ saying that Israel cannot really do more than once off strikes without US assistance, lmao.
The market will definitely react this time, right?
>>2833626yeah, you are right….
Report: Israel will wait a few days before responding. Response, if any, will be coordinated with USA. Trump to continue negotiations.
>>2833707He has to because the market is going to open in a few minutes. Now to see if the market believes the lie or not.
>>2833691After how widely publicized the genocide was it seems unbelievably stupid and insane to side with the israelis. They will execute every last non-jewish man, woman and child up against the walls of the concentration camps they want to build on top your bulldozed houses. It seems to me the longer hezbollah is fighting against israel on lebanese soil the more support they will generate, like how it was before they got involved with syria, who knows though it's been a while since the civil war I'm sure the ethnic tensions didn't go away.
>>2833705Lmao they're gonna wait for market close end of this week.
>>2833740Where is the damn video of tel Aviv being bombed?
>>2833775tasim news said it was an air base that was targeted. the one that was usedto bomb lebanon. we won't get much footage of these air bases
ISRAEL CONDUCTING AIRSTRIKES ON IRAN, IRAQ, LEBANON
UDRUB UDRUB IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
Explosions reported in Iran
PRINCE SULTAN AIRBASE UNDER ATTACK
can someone explain why we're back at war? I thought the US and Iran were negotiating still?
>>2833823Israel said they wanted to bomb Beirut, Iran said they would bomb them if they did. Israel bombed Beirut, so Iran did what they said they would.
Symbolic strikes from both sides
2 more weeks of Iran and lebanese prols and babies getting bombed to death until further cuckening
>>2833799Thriving and happily killing palestinians and lebanese people
Houthis have announced a total blockade in the Red Sea
>>2833891ugh, it's only for israel ships.
Iranians dumped hundreds of Quran into a lake, showing the increasing rejection of Islam and anti-regime sentiments growing in Iran.
https://old.reddit.com/r/NewIran/comments/1u02624/a_video_has_come_out_in_the_past_24_hrs_from/>>2833939Brave and zionist
>Impacts in west Teheran some moments ago.>>2833778 guess the shots were called.
At one point do these countries realize that missile strikes or exchanges do absolutely nothing besides being a symbolic flex or angering the civil population of the opposing side? Russia has been stuffing Ukraine's ass sideways with missiles for over four years with zero impact on the frontlines of the war logistics. All Russian gains were made by actual soldiers and artillery.
>>2833939It's unfathomably q'ranpilled….
>>2833956Putler is the only guy that's not a pussy about huge casualties it seems
>>2833939Oh no bros did the mossad mindcontrol those traitors to the volk?
>Reports published this year indicate that Iranian entities gained access to Chinese satellite imagery systems capable of producing highly detailed observations of military facilities. According to investigations based on leaked documents, Iranian planners used Chinese-provided imagery to monitor American military assets in the Gulf.
>If Chinese satellite capabilities can help Tehran monitor U.S. bases, they can also help Tehran monitor Israeli airfields, missile-defense batteries, naval facilities, intelligence sites, and strategic infrastructure.
>China does not need to deploy troops to Iran or Pakistan. It does not need to participate directly in military operations. By supplying launch services, navigation systems, remote-sensing technology, commercial imagery, and access to its broader space infrastructure, Beijing can dramatically increase the intelligence capabilities of its partners while maintaining plausible deniability.
<The result is a model of influence that is cheaper, less risky, and often more effective than traditional military intervention. https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/chinas-silent-intelligence-war-against-israel-and-india/ >>2833956The West has been obsessed with the idea of victory through bombing alone since the invention of aerial warfare. It makes sense for such a thing to be the holy grail for a colonial power with technological superiority. Insurgency is the biggest danger to all imperialist endeavours, but if you can subdue a nation from the air then you can avoid it altogether. Fortunately, such a thing has been proven impossible time and time again, but the prospect is so attractive that imperialists just keep trying to will it into existence no matter how many times it fails. In Iran's case the missiles aren't meant to subdue the US or Israel, but simply deter them.
>>2834001socialism with gaza genocide characteristics
>>2834055It's an inter-dengist war.
>>2834001Just use ground based lasers to temporarily disable satellites. Or a funnier option is to initiate Kessler syndrome and eliminate everyone's ability to use satellites.
>>2834076energy based weapons in the middle of a global energy crisis? its a bold move cotton
Iran war is over they signed a peace treaty just now
oh shit here we go again
>>2833956> being a symbolic flexshow me your symbolic flex. and then your non-symbolic flex.
the 'cuckiran' posters moved from 'Iran is cuck' to 'le both are cooperating imperialist countries' now. lmao. they are stuck on a loop, like trump is stuck on a loop:
>>2829207>>2834316How are these mutually exclusive? Iran is cucked largely due to its ruling class attitude of co-existence and other times outright support of western imperialism
>>2834355Iran is by far the least cucked country in the world right now maybe barring the DPRK. They're engaged in a direct confrontation with Western imperialism as we speak.
>its ruling class attitude of co-existenceEven Stalin had an attitude of co-existence. What attitude should they have? Endless war to the death with the West?
>>2834358A regime that repeatedly and openly pleads for 'peace' with the US empire while inviting its investors to rape the country, had a war forced on them after sitting in the cuckchair for over 20 years and watching/aiding US imperialism, and their ultimate objective now is a ceasefire. Yeah I'd call that cucked.
But you're a vet who used to take IEDs up the ass for Chevron, so what do I know about cucks.
>>2834358>Iran is by far the least cucked country in the world right now maybe barring the DPRKBig facts
>>2834360>A regime that repeatedly and openly pleads for 'peace' with the US empireAre they pleading? They just started firing missiles at Israel and they weren't even attacked themselves, risking renewed American bombing in defense of an ally rather than themselves. They pretty clearly aren't afraid of the Americans.
>while inviting its investors to rape the countryIt's a childish and vulgar take to treat all foreign investment as bad. The question is whether it's being done on equitable terms that allow the host country to benefit and strengthen themselves. China wouldn't be what it is today without Western investment.
>had a war forced on them after sitting in the cuckchairYeah, they wanted to avoid a war because they knew it would be destructive and kill thousands of their own people. The entire point of deterrence is to avoid a war. The DPRK got nukes because its a guaranteed way to avoid a war. Does that make them cucks?
>their ultimate objective now is a ceasefireAs opposed to what? Endless war with the West? The goal of all wars is a ceasefire dummy. The point is to secure a ceasefire on favourable terms.
>watching/aiding US imperialismIf they are so friendly US imperialism then the Americans wouldn't have attacked them.
>But you're a vet who used to take IEDs up the ass for ChevronI'm not the one shitting on a country currently under imperialist attack.
>>2834375
libtard drivel
>>2834375
>There is absolutely nothing about Iran that is 'anti-imperialist' in the scientific sense
Except for the fact that world imperialism is trying to subdue them and they are resisting it.
>So it's historical and present alliance with western capital
If they are aligned with western capital then why is the main enforcer of the interests of western capital attacking them?
Iran should behave under siege like the DPRK. Because that's where they are at. Iran has become little more than China's Hormuz guard dog. And China doesn't care if NATO burns down the whole world outside China's borders, as long as China gets to end up on top of the cold war.
In fact, that's all the better. If the US spends all it's remaining resources desperately carving profitability through war, then falls anyway. That's just a freebie for the remaining superpower.
Regardless of what they put in writing, the fact is NATO has cut many of Iran's means to influence the region…during peacetime. When a ceasefire arrives, it will be to Iran's detriment. So Iran should start acting like it and using their military leverage, while they still have it, to establish deterrence. To make it clear there *wont* be another salami slice, because if a single attempt is made, everyone's oil industry is going up in smoke, no diplomacy, no warning shots, no missile kayfabe. No matter how many billions of the poorest have to sink with the petrodollar, it will sink.
Or they could get a nuke to the same effect. Alas, islamist cucks are against it.
>>2834402Saddam's most retarded mistake was rejecting his generals advice to invade the eastern gulf coast in 12 hours and hold 50% of the world's oil supply hostage before US military build up in 1991 that took months. Iran is following his footsteps
>>2834358don't bother, they will strawman the shit out of you.
report, hide and move on.
>>2834402>Iran should behave under siege like but they are under siege and behave like it since a decade at least?
>Iran has become little more than China's Hormuz guard doglol what? closing hormuz as retaliation has nothing to do with china
>And China doesn't care if NATO burns down the whole world outside China's border>implyingthe antichina posters retardation is off the charts, anything to shit on them, including denying obvious reality that china is one of the main force of resistance to the US across the world
>the fact is NATO has cut many of Iran's means to influence the regionlol right, thats why they are asking for fucking regional ceasefire with 3 different place lobbing missiles at israel
>When a ceasefire arrives, it will be to Iran's detrimentcompletely delusional, they never had such a strong position, closing hormuz and nuking the US bases in the region put them in a uniquely strong position
>So Iran should start acting like it and using their military leverage, while they still have it, to establish deterrencethats exactly what they're doing
I find it really incredible some people still cry about "muh cucks" while they're in a fucking shooting war, choking the global economy and refusing a deal without their allies included
>>2834410>I am a retard doing bad faith trolling and proud of itwe know
>>2834404Any large scale conventional action by Iran would be obliterated from the air by the imperialists. The reason why the missile campaign is so effective is that between the stealth/mobility of the launchers, and the durability of their missile bases, the imperialist bombing is largely ineffective. Big columns of tanks and trucks rolling through Iraq and Saudi Arabia would be the wet dream of the USAF.
>>2834455I have no idea what half the words in your post mean I don't speak burger sizzle sir I'm kebab
>>2834455>will appeal the ban withActually I appeal it with stuff like "genocide western leftards", "hang the last islamist by the entrails of the last american" etc
You should ask them I wrote them many memorable paragraphs
>>2834486>>2834486then lurk moar, newfagget.
>>2834433China still refuses to confirm Power of Siberia 2 because they want to jew more shekels out of Putin. They don't give a FUCK about supporting their "allies"
>>2834537Klippenstein is pretty reliable.
>>2834488Just a few years ago "Western leftist" was shorthand for social imperialists that ran cover for attacks by their own government on dependent global south countries. Now its shorthand for the exact opposite of that?
>>2834604>Now its shorthand for the exact opposite of that?I think that's largely due to Trumpwashing, though. Once it's the turn for the social fascists to be the face of the state again, things will revert to Biden/Obama. And that's about it, IMO, the only thing that's progressed is how plugged everyone else in NATO is, to US politics and their culture war.
Also most of "the left" considers the topic of Ukraine a hot potato. Because *not* sponsoring neonazism is *still* a controversial subject among "the left". Most of the so called leftists who talk about Palestine, would also revert to straight up Nazi discourse if Ukraine(or Russia) is mentioned in just about any context. Or Taiwan for that matter.
Most of "the left" still buys the world police US interventions, they just want to be told we are bombing Gaza to liberate LGBT and stealing Venezuela for democracy and freedom, instead of the ramblings of the orange man.
In fact, most of "the left" has failed to make accountable in any way, their own governments for signing on to Trump's plan for Gaza or the *exhorbitant* 5% GDP tribute to NATO.
>>2834614 (me)
OR really anything. I mean, there is no opposition to US/NATO policy at all, even during naked genocide. Maybe rhetorical "support", but words are cheap(So are flotillas, and demonstrations and PR in general) and policy, nonexistent.
>>2834614I thought that a lot of the dissmiveness and contempt for the "Western left" was unfair and exaggerated during the height of that term's use to refer to social imperialists. However you'd have to be actually stupid to think that the problem with the Western left is that it's *too* supportive of third world national liberation struggles. As you point out, failure to resolutely oppose the imperialism of their own governments is a far, far more pervasive problem. The shit that the recent influx of leftcoms claim doesn't even make sense on the face if it. I've been accused of tailing my ruling class by being sympathetic to Iran, as if the porkies that run my shitty NATO US satellite of a nation are totally down with the Axis of Resistance. As if they aren't chomping at the bit to smash that country, enslave its people, and steal its wealth. I've seen them claim that being overly sympathetic with national liberation movements is somehow a cause of the weakness of the Western left. This shit is just completely incoherent. Anti-imperialists will argue that social imperialism reproduces ruling class ideology and compromises the independence of the worker's movement, and while there can sometimes be hyperbole in their criticism it at the very least makes logical sense. Nobody who is cheering for Iran to obliterate the US Navy is reproducing the dominant ideology of the West, or tailing the Western bourgeoisie.
>>2827576I like this post.
I actually agree with most of the critical replies to it.
But like the sentiment is correct,
we shouldn't let the "grim, dark" realities of geopolitics instrumentalise us and blind us to the real practical failings that all governments, ESPECIALLY bourgeous governments have.
Just because Iran of whoever else's struggle is "helping" (lol) in your little fight for a must just and materialist world or whatever.
Doesn't mean these people deserve your loyalty, doesn't mean you should feel good about doing propaganda for them.
And most important of all you should NEVER let that dampen your internationalism, let that diminish your belief and commitment to the potential that any people in the world have to flourish,
or worse of all, and most common of all, see them as Pawns in some fucking ridiculous larp game that you certaintly figured out by now right.
In some sense I think the attitude pointed out here shows exactly the resentment that first worlders have for people who actually do have a stake and shot and hope in their own future, people fighting wars, fleeing wars, doing riots, toppling governments, disrupting global trade, breaking laws.
Things the average westerner will not and has not been able to fathom for generations, in my opinion this situation was also engineered,
And so it becomes a fetish
, right, and it's in that sense that Liberals are Leftist, in that Liberals also share in that fetish for Revolution,
and my theory of how it happens for some radical leftists is that they turn that fetish into prudishness, since they can't exercise it, they turn it into something sacred, perfect, they give it ritual and depth,
and go about writing books into how to master the art of something that's never been done.
And act all jaded and callous when anything that resembles it actually happens.
Ever seen it?
This is why the USSR fell btw.
Less the Leninism part and more the Internationalism Part
>>2834619It's literally just one glowfag that either the mods refuse to ban or constantly ban evades
>>2834604Class collaboration.
>>2834614>MUH DRUMPFLiterally who? >>/usapol/
What a ceasefire! Amazing gambit! Really paid off! Lebanon is getting re-colonized and Israel is bombing Tehran.
Worry not however. Most generous, Greatest Leader will not deprive the world of the petrodollar no matter what.
>>2834869those pilots 100% dead. deader than disco.
>>2834869trumpedo with that confirms that Iran shot down the Apache helicopter (~USD50million).
amazing, tardio. the centcom goes around pandering without admitting the causes, and then he ruins the opsec.
>>2834869Al Jazeera Live is saying the Apache was likely on a recon mission.
Reminder that the Israel once killed 100 US soldiers in one incident, Iraq killed 50 in another and Hezbollah killed 200. In all 3 cases the US administration either didn't react or tried to cover it up. US soldiers blood is literally worth less than nothing to them. If someone thinks a dead US soldier or two will make Washington shift policy they're beyond retarded.
Here’s a recap of the latest developments:>Israel’s army has carried out attacks in Lebanon’s Tyre and Maroun al-Ras, causing casualties and destroying houses.<Two paramedics from the Lebanese Red Cross were among dozens of wounded in an earlier Israeli attack in Tyre that killed nine people.>Israel’s attacks in Lebanon since March 2, when fighting resumed, have killed 3,666 people.<UN chief Guterres has appealed for attacks in the region to “stop immediately” and for the declared ceasefires in Lebanon, Iran and Gaza to be upheld.>Amnesty International and Christian Aid said recent UK sanctions against entities linked to Israeli settler violence did not go far enough to hold those responsible to account.https://aje.news/xzw3gz?update=4640726>>2834877Maybe tracked with the Drop Site reporting yesterday saying that a bunch of troops had been deployed to the region to explore taking Karg and potentially coastal areas of Iran.
>>2834892>>2834883Is Drop Site News trustworthy, seems mostly like twitter and medium based. Not seeing anything about Karg Island, link?
>>2834893ken klippenstein got a tip about the kharg island deployment yesterday. apparently 82nd airborne deploying to israel. a source said units recieved deployment papers.
>>2834893>Drop Site News trustworthygood enough for now. ryan grim behind the site. I'd say they transcribe Iranian media information and bounce back the information without distorting the message most of the time.
Drop Site are fellow travelers. They're the most trustworthy you'll get, as far as USA based english language independent stuff goes
>>2834882When Hezbollah killed those 200 soldiers it led to a total US withdrawal from Lebanon.
>>2834876aren't helicopters kinda … slow, though they're like drones that are too big and too exposed targets and planes that are too slow to work as real airforce.
Reminded me of that attack helicopter meme.
>>2834914slow slow? no. can be slow? yes. moving around 250 to 350 mph is insane.
PS, (some) Iranians are stating that Iran didn't shot down the helicopter. Gulf of Tonkin moment?
>>2835000why is iran not waging a holy anti-imperialist war to the last man sisters? i thought they were like the viet cong? where are the vibes, where is the aura?
>>2835000>the less iran participates in the global economy the better. same with Cubaneoliberals 🤝 ultras
>>2835022>t. laissez faire enjoyerIt's actually western leftists who think the less integrated AES states are in the global market the more socialist they are, while the only reason they aren't (despite begging to be) is US enforced isolation. The US is the real 'resistance' in this matter that campists should worship
Ultras will side with the CIA on every single issue then look you straight in the eye and claim to be the real communists.
>>2835030unbelievable trvth nvke
>>2835034Both of these positions are tactical considerations by third worldists
>>2835030 >>2835022Marxists don't give a flying fuck about how some bourgeois state's capitalist economy is run lmao
>>2835034Pretty sure the CIA doesn't consider imperialism and the nation-state to be a world crisis to dismantle via proletarian rule
>>2835044Sure, but they will gladly say it, despite the fact all their tactics will make sure it never happen.
>>2835049Cheering for Iran and random BRICS countries is not a tactic that will yield anything, and it's intellectually debasing as well. Most of this stuff in the West comes down to LARP (see ACP), intellectual holdovers from soviet popular frontism which makes no sense when there is no soviet national interest to protect nevermind whether it's conducive to socialist politics, and defeatism
>>2835058ACP does more than you ever will
>>2835061Their activities come down to a physical recreation club for a very particular type of stalinist autist, posting gulag fantasies about twitter transhumanists, making capcut edits, and positioning themselves as a Russian equivalent of a Juan Guaido NED USAID op. It's pathetic really
>>2835034TIL the CIA supports general strikes, proletarian defeatism in all countries and the abolition of money.
>>2835068>and positioning themselves as a Russian equivalent of a Juan Guaido NED USAID op.lol
>>2835074In the enemies of the West, yes.
>>2835077The CIA sounds pretty based. I should join them
>>2835077>In the enemies of the West, yes.That's why they armed Islamists against Iranian workers in 1953 and 1980
>>2834914They're arguably obsolete. The buzz in military nerd circles is that every major country is working on replacing its helicopter gunships with unmanned versions.
>>2835078Anon is probably recruiting lol
>>2835082>Soviet Union is alive>CIA pushes reactionaries and strengthens their regimes
>Soviet Union is dead>America is hungry>CIA destablizes reactionaries and their regimes for easy lootingNice try, agent. But CIA has zero, 0, ZERO, principles.
>>2835092>soviet unionSo the people who helped Ba'athists kill their workers…
>>2835096>immediately changes the subjectYou didn't have to confirm you're a glowie, buddy. When's the ground invasion, btw?
The most based thing Stalin did (besides rejecting socialist commodity production and national socialism early on) is labelling geopolitics western pseudo-degeneracy
Western MLs would be hospitalized in a mental instituion under Stalin
>>2835030>unironically defending US imperialism>the poorer you are the more socialist you are! trade is capitalism!plz be trolling
>>2835136pointing out class war in the only way to end capitalism (imperialism) and western workers need to get off their ass is precisely (and the only) anti-imperialism
>>2835105how is relentlessly pushing narratives attacking targets of US imperialism wars in the very thread about these wars helping class war btw?
damn, one could even notice, thats exactly the wrecking tactics historically used by glowies to help imperialism by subverting leftist circles to their advantage!
>>2835144>here is material reality<glow moreSorry I mean the Mahdi will come down and destroy the US we just need to sign two more ceasefires
>>2835144How is pointing out US, USSR and China played both sides during the Iran-Iraq war and actively helped both countries suppress their respective workers, is pro US imperialism btw?
CENTCOM has launched strikes against Iran due to the downing of the Apache helicopter
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/33187—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 NEW: A second wave of U.S. strikes is now underway
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator>>2835000USA attacked Iran to sell American oil to Europe in near-monopoly prices. This is what blockade is all about. Israel is a hyena using the opportunity
>>2835400Then America runs out of oil. lol
>>2831045Post more Hezbo kino. Otherwise I will post Al Aqsa footage.
>>2827576My only concern is the defeat of the west and the zionist techno-oligarchs running it.
Whatever accelerates this is good, whatever hinders this is bad.
If Islamism leads to the defeat of the west, I support it.
If "Communism" leads to giving the west another lifeline, I oppose it.
Revolutionary defeatism is an imperative for the west, not the rest.
If you are the most repressive bougie faggot in the 3rd world, but you hate the west and will not trade with the west and will supply weapons to anti-western forces, you are based and correct.
If you are a leftist academic pushing for the defeat of your country in a war against the west in the name of "fighting the ruling class", you are scum of the earth and need to be exterminated.
The west IS the GLOBAL ruling class.
That is why westerners should advocate for revdef in the WEST.
While everyone else in the rest of the world should advocate for unlimited war against the west.
Politicians, academics, social figures who advocate for making deals with the west, trade with the west, "we are all people" bullshit, need to be identified and destroyed. If you are from the non-western world, treat a leftist who wants class war as a traitor. Naturally the business elite of any country is pro-western, but if you do find a nationalist business group against the west, protect them against the leftists who want defeat. Unless of course the business people are opportunists then they should be shot. But you can judge by the fruits of their labor if they are indeed honest in their anti-imperialism or not.
To the denialists:
If you do not believe the globalist nature of modern capitalism, ask Cuba how they are doing.
Ask DPRK how they are doing.
Ask Venezuela how they are doing.
Ask Gaza how they are doing.
Ask the prosecutors at the ICJ how they are doing. Ask Francesca Albanese how she is doing.
Ask anyone under the boot of sanctions how they are doing.
>Tldr Partisan warfare is absolute war against the absolute enemy. Everything else is secondary.p.s. this war turned fake and gay really fast so I stopped following it. I only came here to see the site's reaction to Karmelo Anthony's sentencing.
Everything the orange retard touches turns to shit. Golden shit, but shit nonetheless.
>>2835462Gigabased and truke pilled
>>2834619You are going to join the cheerleaders when the traitors ruling Iran draw up some carefully worded ceasefire. You'll declare victory then. And soon after, like when the Palestinian resistance was forced to capitulate in late 2024, in the face of total extermination, the material reality will assert itself.
At that point, like in 2025, your camp will erupt in a flurry of indignant condemnations of the west, their egregious non-adherence to the paper promises. Instead of realizing that the events reflect
material reality, which you misjudged, not the PR efforts of the bureaucrats of either side, scratching worthless paper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire >>2835462>My only concern is the defeat of the west and the zionist techno-oligarchs running it. And this is mainly true because the world will not look the same when this ever happens. You won't even be able to scapegoat and say "it's da joos" because Israel will hardly be a state let alone functioning if this happens. We will need to reorganize and do complete reform.
>>2835462And leftoids slander US as fascists…jesus christ. Go to those third world countries and die for their bourgeoisie faggot. There are many deserving third world workers who can take your place in your comfortable first world country instead.
>>2835341Cuckran falling for it again award and reaping the rewards
>>2834666>It's literally just one glowfag modnice trips
>>2835508>Cuckran falling for it again award and reaping the rewardsIt feels like Iran is the one trying to fatigue their own population.
If the eventual deal they are aiming for would only benefit the national burgoisie and a few politicos… it would make sense to inflate the value of "peace" by constantly failing to assert deterrence.
I think that's he problem here, we are looking at it from a nationalist perspective. Whereas the enmity of the Iranian elite towards Washington and Israel extends only far as it concerns their own class interests. They don't want to be replaced by a different crop of compradors or have their assets destroyed and their profits hampered too much.
>>2835478Sir this is a larp thread we believe in allah and the mahdi get that material reality shit out of here
>>2835505New York is run by a literal bold faced fascist
gtfo gringo lover
>>2835505>take your place in your comfortable first world country instead.I thought Lenin’s theory of superprofits and labor aristocracy were wrong? Yet you're admitting campists are labor aristocrats (truke)
>>2835462Reactionary thirdie bougies don't actually give a shit about destroying the center of imperialism, which is capitalism. Until they do I don't give a shit about their hybrid regimes standing. The US' special position as the place where all of the multinationals congregate is not permanent and should not be thought of as such. When the tariff debate was still going, there was active debate in those circles over whether the US can be dropped if they force global porkies to sacrifice themselves for the US natbourg. This is what the based multipolar Carney speech signified. He was reassuring the financefags at Davos that there were plenty of places for them to run to and potentially isolate America if the US govt decided to cannibalize them. We don't live in an age where capital is industrial or tied to any particular country, and therefore the fight against imperialism can't be framed in Manichean partisan terms like West against the Rest as an effective guide for political action. For what it's worth the Chinese actually understand this fact which is why they really don't care about changing the role of the US in global trade relations.
>>2835615Stalin vs Hitler image goes hard
Because of heavy work, I don't follow shit for 2 weeks now and to me it feels like absolutely nothing is happening.
That is to say, if you work all the time, you have no clue what's going up with the world
>>2832646To be fair, any loser who was ghoulish enough to start LARPing as a CIA analyst for OSINT during the special military operation years ago where they express joy at watching Russians turn into pink mist 24/7 was probably always already a Zio shill.
Israel reducing military aid from America
>Why would Israel request a reduction in US aid which is used to purchase defensive and offensive weapons? There are several reasons but most important is for Israel to retain its ability to protect itself without being overly dependent on other countries. Also important is the bad will engendered in people like the above letter writer, who has been brainwashed by mass/social media. At the same time, the US desires to reduce foreign aid to scores (!) of countries, to further its policy of “America First.”
>Financial aid, a necessity when Israel was a young nation, was phased out as Israel became relatively wealthy. For example, in 2022 only $8.8 million [.3%] of US annual aid to Israel was non-military, while 99.7% of the aid went to the Israeli military to be spent in the US for American military equipment. For the record, Ukraine is currently the largest recipient of US military aid and dozens of countries receive lesser amounts of aid.
>Regarding the reduction in aid to purchase US defense products, Prime Minister Netanyahu recently said on the May 10, 2026 ‘60 Minutes’ show: “Let’s start now and do it over the next decade, over the next 10 years, but I want to start now. I don’t want to wait for the next Congress.” His thinking is right for Israel and right for the US. On June 3, 2026, pro-Israel House Republican Marlin Stutzman introduced a resolution calling on the United States to end the $3.8 billion in annual military aid it provides to Israel, replacing it with a “partnership” in which Israel buys American weapons with its own funds. A partnership, not a dependency on the US.
>Israel must not rely too much on one country to supply its weapons and systems. So, Israel’s leaders are taking out an “insurance policy” by planning to spend mostly its own funds to enlarge its very proficient, burgeoning military manufacturing sector. At the same time, this will reduce the leverage that a big supplier might use against us, such as last year, when President Biden held back needed 1,000 lb bombs during a war against Iran. The close connection between Israel and America will be maintained, but Israel’s hands must not be tied. Israel will strengthen itself in pursuit of its own goals by being more independent. https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-reducing-military-aid-from-america/>>2835646Translation: the Americans have decided to tighten the leash and Bibi is trying to save face.
>>2835462the post that nuked /leftypol/
>>2835676 (me)
oops, didn't mean to reply to anyone.
>>2835628thats why "nothing ever happens" is a proletarian sentiment, happeningfags have middle class socdem consciousness (this
>>2835462 retarded porky lover is a clear example of the counter-revolutionary pyschology of the happeningfag, the best part of the post is when at the end he shows some degree of awareness about it all being fake and gay but fails to see how the classcucking he advocates for is at the root of it, classic reformist retardation, sad!)
>>2835615Hitler and Stalin fought an actual war against each other. North Korea was bombed hard by the US. US is preparing for war against China. Soyjaking a true statement is quitessential glowposting.
>>2835700> US is preparing for war against China. How is this shit even possible if they can't take even Iran out?
>>2835716The goals and means of a Sino-American war would probably be pretty different. Most likely you'd see a major (but limited) confrontation at sea where the goal would be to smash the enemy navy and then negotiate from a position of strength. This would actually play far more to American strengths than the war in Iran, which was initiated with the impossible goal of toppling a government with air power alone, and against an enemy that uses asymmetric tactics. Such a thing is far more difficult in a blue water naval engagement, and China would most likely confront the Americans conventionally. Besides, just because the US can't beat Iran doesn't lean they aren't also preparing for war with China.
>>2835716Because they write it in their policy papers. The war against Iran was planned from 2009 at least. Planning does not mean good execution.
>>2835716the entire point of either taking over or collapsing iran into chaos after subjugating venezuela is to try to put china in a vice re: energy. The war with Russia is partially about this too. They want to control all oil that goes anywhere and cut off anyone they don't like if they don't accept US hegemony so any oil source outside of that hegemony has been actively militarily attacked before our eyes. I don't think they think that China will roll over, but they want to be able to exert economic harm to try to destabilize them more before starting any conflict, which is standard procedure for any US aggression.
Germany Is Staging Its Own Palestine Action ‘Show Trial’Germany is prosecuting five activists alleged to be part of Palestine Action Germany in what their lawyers have described as a “show trial” intended to stigmatise protesters “as [if they were] terrorists” and which legal experts argue shows a “deeply concerning development” in how the state is targeting political protest.
The so-called Ulm 5, who are from the UK, Germany, Spain and Ireland, are currently on trial at a high-security court at Stammheim prison in Stuttgart following a break-in at offices of the Israeli arms firm Elbit Systems in Ulm, southwestern Germany, in September 2025.
The defendants face charges of trespassing, property damage and using the symbols of a proscribed organisation.
They have also been charged with belonging to a criminal organisation under Section 129 of the German Criminal Code – a controversial piece of legislation human rights lawyers say is being used to “blur the line between organised crime and the legitimate exercise of people’s freedom of assembly and expression” such that the case will “have a chilling effect on others who are considering engaging in political protest”.
Framed as terrorists.
On 8 September 2025, Zo Hailu, Vi Kovarbasic, Leandra Rollo, Daniel Tatlow-Devally and Crow Tricks are alleged to have broken into the Ulm offices of Elbit Systems wearing signs reading “Palestine Action”.
The indictment, seen by Novara Media, alleges that they caused over €1m worth of property damage to the site, painted slogans including “Child murderer” and “Baby killer” (which the prosecution characterises as “antisemitic” messaging) and chanted pro-Palestinian slogans, including the phrase “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” (which some German courts have ruled constitutes a symbol of Hamas). All were arrested without resistance.
The activists are not being tried under terror legislation. Nor are they alleged to have been violent or harmed people. In fact, their lawyers argue this is precisely what they were trying to stop: by damaging the property of Elbit Systems, a company whose centrality to Israel’s genocide in Gaza is well-documented, their aim was to save the lives of Palestinians.
Yet despite this, their lawyers say both the courts and the prosecution are trying to create the impression that the defendants are terrorists.
The choice of venue for the trial is key: a high-security courtroom at Stuttgart-Stammheim prison. Stammheim is best known for the 1970s trial of the leaders of the far-left Red Army Faction (RAF), which was proscribed as a terror group by the West German government. In more recent decades, Stammheim has also been used for the trials of alleged members of outlawed Turkish and Kurdish organisations, Islamist extremists and neo-Nazis.
Inside the courtroom, the activists have been handcuffed, placed behind bulletproof glass, and seated far from their lawyers in what the defence called “an unacceptable violation of the defendants’ right to a fair trial”. As a result, court proceedings – which started at the end of April – have been severely disrupted.
Anna Magdalena Busl, lawyer for Rollo, told Novara Media she believes these measures are designed “to make our clients [look] much more dangerous than they are”.
“The fact is that they are stigmatising our clients as [if they were] terrorists,” she said.
Silencing dissent.
The prosecution’s application of Section 129 of the German Criminal Code is also part of a wider attempt to frame the group as political extremists, legal experts say.
Section 129 bans the formation, membership of or support for a criminal group. Although “Palestine Action Germany” has not been outlawed in Germany – in fact, the defendants’ lawyers argue that the prosecution is yet to prove it even exists as a formal organisation – prosecutors are able to charge someone under Section 129 if they allege the group meets the statutory definition.
Crucially, Section 129 allows the state to justify extended pre-trial detention – the Ulm 5 have been held since September, far exceeding the standard six-month pre-trial limit, with the trial not expected to conclude until January 2027 – as well as to deny bail on the grounds that the accused pose a threat to society, and to grant the state extra surveillance powers. Someone charged under Section 129 who is found guilty will also likely face a much harsher sentence than for property damage alone.
Human rights groups have long criticised Section 129 for being a vague and far-reaching statute that can be used to silence political dissent.
“This is a deeply concerning development that we’ve been seeing for a while now,” Yasmin Khuder of Amnesty International Germany told Novara Media. “This particular code […] is being used to criminalise political protest and blur the line between organised crime and the legitimate exercise of people’s freedom of assembly and expression.”
“Just this case [of the Ulm 5] alone will have a chilling effect on others who are considering engaging in political protest.”
Busl explained that “Section 129 is interpreted so broadly that there is always a risk of being charged with forming a criminal organisation if the prosecution claims that the purpose or activities of a political organisation are aimed at committing criminal offenses”.
Prosecutors of the Ulm 5 also repeatedly referenced Palestine Action UK in their indictment of the German activists.
Multiple pages are devoted to describing the UK chapter’s history, organisational structure, tactics, recruitment methods and media strategy, as well as a wide range of actions which it is alleged to have carried out. The indictment also notes that the group was proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK government last summer. (The ban was ruled unlawful after a landmark judicial review in February 2026, with the verdict on a government appeal to the decision due later this month.)
Khuder explained that references to Palestine Action UK are designed to support the Section 129 charge against the Ulm 5.
“The prosecution is repeatedly referring to the UK’s treatment of Palestine Action in order to frame the activists in Ulm as part of a broader, extremist or criminal global structure […] which, of course, helps their case to establish them as a criminal organisation,” she said.
Germany’s ‘Staatsräson’.
The attempts by the courts and the prosecution to turn the case of the Ulm 5 into a so-called “show trial” is just the latest escalation in Germany’s crackdown on solidarity with Palestine.
It has been waged through lawfare, heavy policing (including police violence), harassment, censorship and the threat of professional or financial repercussions, amongst other things, with the European Legal Support Centre documenting around 1,000 incidents of repression since 7 October 2023.
This crackdown should be understood in the context of Germany’s Staatsräson, or “reason of state”. This is the idea, first articulated by former chancellor Angela Merkel, that following the Holocaust, Germany has a special responsibility to support the state of Israel.
Staatsräson goes some way towards explaining why courts sometimes seem less concerned with protecting the right to political protest and more with making examples of pro-Palestine defendants, experts say.
Britta Rabe, from the German NGO the Committee for Basic Rights and Democracy, who has been observing the Ulm 5 trial, told Novara Media she believed that “the court is full of this German Staatsräson”.
The trial continues.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/06/09/germany-is-staging-its-own-palestine-action-show-trial/ >>2835738>>2835716to add to my post, in this sense the war with China has already started. China's "war" with the US mostly took the form of alternative banking and investment structures to those offered by the west, this enables development on better terms for countries typically being exploited in the international market re:labor and natural resources, and it raises wages. This causes the contradiction of capitalism to come home instead of being resolved though imperialism, they have to work harder and pay more to get diminishing returns on the very lifeblood of the post WW2 western lifestyle, they are locked in a pressure cooker with no way out but some kind of socialist reform, war to reconquer the world from an increasingly weakened position (the option we are going with now), or fascist cannibalization of their own populace (probably inevitable and to a degree already in progress).
To get back on top on their terms, the west has no choice but to take down China but no good path to do so and so we see them trying to encircle China with hostile neighbors through coups and coercion and cut off their access to friendly markets. You can see preparations in the news about the panama canal and US coercion re:China, they are preparing the ground for a blockade and and oil squeeze even if it's years from now. The US is rushing to make more naval bases in west africa, together with the focus on greenland this indicates that they want to shut China out of the atlantic and use the Phillipines, Japan, Indonesia, etc to keep them out of the Pacific, while starting an insurgency in their west using Uyghers and Tajiks armed and trained in the recent ops in Syria.
>>2835654You projecting again?
a shahed flew over my house in ericson, nebraska
>>2835920Guy is arguing against class war outside the west. And protecting porkies if they happen to be "nationalist". You think I agree with that? Lmao
Iran is saving cuba from being invaded if u think about it really
>>2835991Iran couldn't even save cucktollah (the militia, not the singular cuck)
>>2835991Cuba is probably fucked either way unfortunately. Eventually the war with Iran will end. If it ends well for the US then they will be emboldened and attack Cuba. If it ends poorly for the US they will need to restore their reputation and attack Cuba. There is no way out of this without outside help, or an extremely stupid move like an American occupation of the island.
>>2835994Cuba must launch nukes on Florida
>>2835994>Eventually the war with Iran will end. Lol. thats whats been said about the ukraine war for 4 years already. how many more forever war conflicts need to be launched until a state of world war three has been achieved? all thats missing is a war in Asia and we're already there. the status quo of peace will NEVER return
>>2836022Cuba must destroy "the idea of Florida"
>>2836024Kill the Floridian in your head!
>>2835998>the status quo of peace forever wars is the status quo
Trump just said hes gonna end the war by the end of this month
it's going to end in a big war
Moon Of Alabama reports that 280 000 Israeli reservists have been called up
you know trump is gaslighting with the ships secretly passing through the strait, because he's dumb at lying:
>100 gazillions ships crossed secretly Hormuz.
>that's why the market is X dollar amount.
if it's a secret, how can the market ponder its existence?
Well, he's not dumb. he expects that his listeners are dumb.
The Iranian bourgeois are more revolutionary than you or your dumb friends ever will be
>U.S. STRIKES ON IRAN STARTED, U.S. OFFICIAL SAYS
Remember when we were two or three days away from a deal?
>>2836290who are you talking to
>>2836310You know fucking who, don’t play dumb
>>2836301Look at this gaslight:
>i24NEWS: The U.S. is expected to carry out strikes against a broader range of Iranian targets in the coming hours, going beyond the scope of last night’s attacks.
>The objective is to pressure Tehran into responding to the deal currently on the table rather than return to full-scale war.
>According to multiple sources, the strikes are intended to break the deadlock in negotiations.
>Arab diplomats warn that while Washington may be trying to surprise Iran, Tehran’s response remains unpredictable and could trigger a wider conflict centcom in less than 24 hours, across the other side of the world states they carried out 'self-defense' attacks on Iran, shit you not.
>>2835955The West is the first and biggest enemy of communism. Attempting communism before it's toppled will be a disaster. So you ARE a fascist, because you're condoning defeat of communism.
>>2836453Nuclear weapons means the west will exist forever
DONT BULLSHIT ME BROS DID IRAN MANAGE TO DO IT
HEARING RUMORS OF A US DESTROYER HIT BY AN IRANIAN MISSILE DONT YOU FUCKING BULLSHIT ME GUYS COME ON DID THEY REALLY DO IT PLS GOD
iran closed the straight because it's pride month 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
>>2836453retarded renegade, communism is the only thing that can end imperialism (or le west as you call it), just because Stalin's nationalist deviation is weak against it doesn't mean real socialism will follow the same fate, this time all liberals like you will be executed before they can do what they did to the USSR again, no more coddling your kind
>>2835665The SNCA that SNCA’d the SNCA
>>2836502the strait of Hormuz normally requires poppers to open up but straight people have been using the drug so they don't have enough, sad
>>2836503If that ever becomes true, then let my body stoke the furnace of the Revolution.
Until then, (you) and your "real socialism", are as empty as your praxis.
>>2835749We really should've dissolved the G*rman state entirely after WW2.
>>2836467The Khrushchevite Revisionist Social Fascist Social Imperialist USSR should of listened to Mao’s advice to Nuke the U$ and it’s NATO allies during the Cuban Missile Crisis, due to the Dialectical Materialist fact that Global Nuclear War is Historically Progressive, because it is the only way to destroy the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and create the Material Conditions for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is already viable in the Material Conditions, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW will not be viable in the Material Conditions until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted), that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
The Khrushchevite Revisionist Social Fascist Social Imperialist USSR also failed to launch a Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution to purge the Superstructure of all Reactionary elements, including banning all Religion (under Lenin and Stalin, the USSR did shut down all Churches, Mosques, Synagogues, etc. and put all Priests, Imams, and Rabbis in the gulag, but the Revisionist Social Fascist Social Imperialist Khrushchev opened the Churches/Mosques/Synagogues back up and let the Priests/Imams/Rabbis out of the gulag in order to plant the seeds of reaction and allow them to contaminate the superstructure of Soviet society), purging all Revisionists and forcing them to get re-educated (Lenin and Stalin did this effectively, but the Revisionist Social Fascist Social Imperialist Khrushchev stopped it and let all the Revisionists out of the gulag), eliminating Bourgeois Femininity by forcing all Women to have extremely Short Hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved Head being the most Historically Progressive), banning all dresses/makeup/lipstick, and forcing everyone to wear Mao suits (all suits and religious clothing will be banned), all of which would have prevented the USSR from collapsing, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️ 💇♀️👩🦲!
>>2836749Thank you, King Lear lol. You always brighten my day with your schizo bullshit. A smile across my face every time you post ❤️
>>2836749Glad to see King Lear ✊😜 is still here
Funny how the US could've collapsed Iran for the past two decades by taking out its lifeline, that is the green zone regime. They're supposedly engaging in war right now yet both approved the new Iraqi cabinet.
Our liberal friends will shrug at this and say it was simply the incompetence of this or that politician. However if someone were too look at this more seriously it's almost like a vindication of overproduction and crisis theory. War is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous.
>>2836454Nukes aren't real. Not like the propaganda says. This was revealed when they began openly attacking inside Russia and how they're trying to fuck with China. Supposedly Russia and China have thousands of nukes between them, but the USA operates as if they don't exist.
>>2836867Cant wait for his bitch fit
>>2836876<picrelPlease just post the articles, because i can't find this shit so what functional randos on twitter are saying is not really useful.
Didn't jannies ban posting twitter screenshots?
>>2836888>Didn't jannies ban posting twitter screenshots?No that would make sense, that's why they won't do it.
I understand it's hard to ban every post with just a little twitter screenshot but 2 posts in a row with literally nothing else but 5 twitter screenshots does suck ass
Remember the last OPfag who used to put 10 xitter handles of the most insufferable griffters in the world because they said Iran good once?
I hope xhe never cook again
>>2836917I will admit that some of the Mark Ames' posts are very interesting and in depth strategic deductions of what the true intentions of both sides may be.
>More evidence that Trump's escalation is meant to wreck the Iran-GCC rapprochement - White House has been pushing this new plan to bribe GCC states using stolen Iranian assets. >>2836937
USSR lost the war for the soul of Jewish people. Mostly due to destalinization, that shit severed the communist unity, and thus Israel flew into American sphere
>>2836924>Remember the last OPfag who used to put 10 xitter handles of the most insufferable griffters in the world because they said Iran good once?Lmao. Yes. I hated that.
>>2837044doggy doggy what now uygha
How long does it take to make ballistic missiles and drones? Has Iran production halted during the war? Have they been able to replenish their stocks during the ceasefire?
>>2836800i really thought so too. not gonna care about correct detractors so much anymore. they will be swept away in the tidal wave of history.
>>2837057iran production has not halted, and they even claim they have accelerated it and have more now than at the start
>>2837059>>2837059Fair enough anon, however maybe also include links? I do appreciate the curation efforts, sincerely. It keeps the thread on track. Idk if copy and pasting text is better or what. Idk maybe no one is ever satisfied.
If any jannie is watching, I believe anon should be allowed to continue because he does this in good faith and desire to contribute. I think this is more of a discussion over preferred formatting
>>2837063where have they claimed that
>>2837076>>2837059Also some links are just massive like what you posted, so I understand wanting to avoid littering your post with shitty ass links.
>>2837062Trump is constantly saying shit that Iran instantly denies. Any left leaning legitimate analyst with sources in Iran will tell you that Iran is flabbergasted at all the times Trump has been claiming there are "negotiations". It's a complete and total lie every single time. Not even a stretch of the truth. Just plain false.
>>2837092i know that's how it usually goes, but at least once before iran kept denying their intent to negotiate literal hours before sending a commission to pakistan, so there's always a sliver of a chance that trump really is pussing out for realsies. if there's any logic that has remained consistent throughout the most retarded conflict in our lifetimes, is that the US has an incentive to amp up any chance of negotiation and iran has an incentive to down play potential negotiations, which directly leads to this stupid asymmetry.
>>2837057no one knows uygha but considering that iran feels confident enough to retaliate in response to attacks in lebanon, i'd say they are covered in that area.
>>2837092Qatar confirmed it.
Sorry campcuck bro
>>2837084>haven't denied it yetalso
>>2837100 >>2836753you have no idea how delusional that cretin is.
I am convinced he's a psyop to make lpol to look insane.
>>2837100Why are you believing Qatar (dog for US) retard…!!! Are you STUPID..? (yes)
Until stores run out of goods or I get killed I’m not taking this seriously
>>2837128>Qatar (dog for US) Why did Iran apologize for bombing them then? And why do they have pro-Iran propaganda 24/7 in their media? And why do chuddies keep using their state media as source?
>>2827576But we are white westerners here we know better than dumb brown third worlders, they should be realistic and understand they need to live under theocratic military junta and lick that boot too so they can destroy our imperialist governments, as we are a bit too busy enjoying our treats to do the job
>>2837131they are bouncing back trump
also, yes qatar is a US simp. what did they do when israel bombed the Hamas representatives in Doha?
what do you think how they talked about Al-Assad?
>Trump: We took out uhh, some nights 45 ships, some nights 15. The last 4 or 5 nights we did 25, 22, 21, 26, 18 and 14. Who else would remember those numbers? Nobody.
>>2837130>why do they have pro-Iran propaganda 24/7 in their mediayou're delusional, qatar and al jazeera are definitely not pro iran, they're just not complete retards and want to defuse the situation
and iran want to seem reasonable so they can have an understanding with gulf countries and maybe separate them from the US
>>2837131its qatar state approved news, they're not as blatantly anti iran as western media, but they're still not favorable to them either. Even on palestine their journos are somewhat on leash, its just that their target audience is very much very pro palestine and their context is different
>>2837133stop replying to yourself to bump your worthless bait retard, who the fuck reply repeatedly to a 12 days old shitty bait in a news thread except a samefagging bitch?
>>2837154>but they're still not favorableThat's why they have pro regime Iranian guests 24/7 and not once brought on anti-regime Iranian
>>2837154>you're delusional, qatar and al jazeera are definitely not pro iran, they're just not complete retards and want to defuse the situationcounterpoint: the 'cuckran' troll poster knows all of this, and feels offended for being called out as a fed.
>The lady doth protest too much, methinks >al jizzera is anti iran pro thats why israel is constantly lobbying against it and why leftypoltards repost its articles like stalin himself wrote it
>>2837161follow the discussion, the original shit never mentioned aj:
>>2837044 first
>>2837062 reply to trump, no aj,
second(You): rarted individual:
>i had my fee-fees hurt because I was called out as a fed.>mention aj out of nowhere.cope, seethe, mald, etc.
>>2836874The footages in Jordan are interesting. finally the puppet kingdom had it coming, huh.
TERMS LEAKED
>In a secret joint meeting upon the conclusion of hostilities, representatives of the respective parties agreed to "exchange kisses with the homies" following the successful fulfillment of the annual prole-killing quota and the mitigation of the crisis of overproduction effecting international capital during what observers have characterized as a "nothing burger" of a war; noting that the conflict's principal objectives have been satisfactorily achieved "nothing happens", and that the arrangement will permit all parties involved to claim victory while bringing operations to an amicable and definitive close.
>>2837210this is all a ridiculous show
>>2837210>gustano cuckmedani is already copingMusic to my ears
>>2837239>gustano cuckmedaniwho?
>>2837253redditors turn out to be the biggest faggots even among israelis
>>2837253>withdrawing>from the IDF>unironically thinking theyre not born to be a conscripthah
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2837240The son of the Iranian bureaucrat who cheers for the death of Iranian workers from his mansions in the west
>>2837155>everyone who disagrees with classcucking is the same personmeds, now
>>2837202It will be time to play the "20$ a gallon is a democrat conspiracy and I'm sending the federal police in the streets to kill the malcontents" card
>>2837202>Contract for DifferenceSeriously? Who keeps falling for this shit? It's Donny boy speculating with shit, isn't he.
>>2837393>Who keeps falling for this shit? well, let me explain the long version of it, because you are appreciated.
once this bullshit shitshow created by trump started, trump managed to kick most of the speculators and 'investors' out of the trading oil markets. this is some capital flight that hasn't come back to the oil markets through episodic repositioning and liquidity thinning in contract windows. those who have stayed are probably the most loyal-to-trump rich people there are, and that's why:
>the market bounces at the whims of trump>the market bounces very quickly at the announcements of trumpthere's no enough confidence in the oil market to put money on it.
either way, the oil market will spike whether trump wants or not in the foreseable future. either with a peace deal, either when the SPRs around the globe deplete.
>>2837506 (me)
>>2837393though I could not corroborate how much of the oil market in CFDs left the place. CFDs are issued as over-the-counter (OTC) products, information there is usually only available to the counterparties, which is why global-level monitoring is limited; but those who know…
…know.
>>2837224How come anons ignored this important news!?
A sharp fall in China’s crude oil imports during the Iran war has been instrumental in holding down oil prices and keeping the global economy humming.
Clues are emerging in the mystery of the missing three million barrels—the oil that China would normally be importing but isn’t now. Chinese people are driving fewer gasoline-powered cars and taking trains instead of planes. The country is dialing back operations at the plants that turn crude oil into feedstock for materials such as plastics. And Beijing is beginning to draw down reserves.
Chinese official customs data put crude imports at 7.8 million barrels a day in May, which includes oil arriving by pipeline from Russia, a drop from around 11 million barrels a day in recent years. The missing three million barrels are roughly equal to the combined daily oil consumption of Italy and France.
Just as remarkable as the abrupt import fall is the absence of major visible disruptions to everyday life in China. Tourists are still traveling, factories are still running and store shelves have plenty of toilet paper.
It was only in May that Chinese users began to meaningfully pull from the nation’s various crude inventories, starting at around 500,000 barrels a day, according to maritime risk and intelligence firm Vortexa. The U.S. drew down just over one million barrels a day from commercial crude oil stocks last week.
Before the Iran war, China spent months stockpiling cheap Russian and Iranian oil. Analysts typically put the country’s total crude reserves at between one billion and 1.4 billion barrels, enough to cover at least several months of imports. Beijing doesn’t disclose the figure.
China was “already picking up a lot more than they needed through filling up storage,” said Shell Chief Executive Wael Sawan at The Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council Summit in London on Wednesday. “So they are able to modulate their demand.”
China is finding ways to use less oil.
Electricity-powered high-speed rail and electric vehicles have partly stepped into the roles of short-haul flights and gasoline cars. China’s electricity largely comes from coal and renewable energy.
During national holidays around May Day, air passenger traffic declined about 5.7% compared with the same period last year, but the country saw a 4.6% increase in rail passenger traffic, according to China’s Ministry of Transport.
EV charging volume on highways surged 53% during the holiday period, according to data from China’s National Energy Administration. The Ministry of Transport estimated that an average of 15.4 million EVs traveled each day during the May holiday period, accounting for about a quarter of all vehicles on the road and up 33% from a year earlier.
Vortexa’s Li predicted Chinese users would further tap its reserves—and the surprising resilience could continue for quite a while. She said refiners were better off using reserves than buying expensive crude on the spot market, which often costs more than what they can charge for refined products.
“Based on our calculation, even if the inventory drawdown rate picks up to more than one million barrels a day, China’s commercial reserves alone are enough to sustain another six months,” she said.
>>2837906He just reposted the iranian foreign minister, its over. They cucked out. Fucking retards. And fuck Pakistan, China and all those other cuck nations in the middle east that are pushing for cuck negotiations. Is it so hard to not talk to a pedophile? And Latin America need to be nuked wholesale. Fuck Vietnam for allowing Trump to build his little pedo enclave on their soil. Why is everyone a cuck infront of him?
>>2838015stop expecting third world porky to destroy your rulling class for you you stupid idealist
>>2838015World revolution before socialism was debunked back in 1917, buddy.
>>2838024How many countries became soviet republics in the late 1910s?
How many countries were either people's democracies or socialist republics by the 1950s?
You're much dumber than you think.
>>2838040>instead of creating the critical conditions for a world-revolutionThat is what they're doing thoughever.
>>2838032Why are you talking about world revolution and prove your point not by class relations but by number of states becoming socialist, lmao?
It's quite obvious by now that China, a socialist country, is a world hegemon today. Meaning that MLs have won yet again, and Westoid socdems are shamed once again.
>>2835462ahem this sounds like some glowie type shit right here senpai. there's no war but class war.
>>2838040how sad. it seems israel will come out of this war stronger
>>2838040Cuckran cucking out again and getting itself into another bombing campaign in a few years max. Who would have thought!
>>2838080>>2838076Have you dipshits actually seen the provisions of the agreement or are you talking out of your asses?
>>2838059you obviously dont even know what an hegemon is
>>2838083you dont understand, if the US mainland hasnt been nuked, this is an iranian defeat!
>>2837960>When the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran and the Strait of Hormuz was virtually closed, many analysts thought a prolonged closure could bring oil prices to $150 to $200 a barrel. That in turn was viewed as likely to trigger a global recession. Instead, with the strait chokehold well into its fourth month and clashes in the war continuing, the Brent crude benchmark is below $100 a barrel.>Actions by the world’s biggest oil producer—the U.S.—and its biggest importer—China—help explain this unexpected resilience. The U.S. increased crude oil exports in April and May to more than five million barrels a day, a jump from an average of about four million barrels a day in recent years. And China has cut its imports. thank you zhongguo for preventing the collapse of the world economic system!
>>2838123So cool that Actual Existing Socialism is what's upholding capitalism
>>2838059> China, a socialist country, is a world hegemon todaymaybe in 10 years. currently the US has more aircraft carriers, more nukes, more offshore bases, a higher GDP. and i don't say this to glaze the USA, i say it because the USA is the number one threat to world peace, communism, etc. and it's wrong to underestimate that
>>2838127>upholdingsublating
>>2838136"Sublating" it by helping to sustain America and Israel's war? That just sounds like capitulation
Nobody has a right to call China communist again after all this is over, not when they're helping hold back revolutionary conditions
>>2838143If China is advancing marxism and workers conciousness then how come every chinese national and immigrant i met had even more bourgeoise sentiment and values than americans? lol white americans will practice mutual aid, black americans will, but a lumpen so much as gives a chinaman 3 dollars for a beer and that chinaman doesnt even want to see the back of his head near the store, let alone give him a hand out.
>>2838147ib4 MUH ASIAN CULTURE IS ANTI WHITE DEGENARCY
Nah, even rich viet, and cambodian people are less petite-borugeise and selfish than chinas population. china is just asias new america.
>>2838149Chinese people are the most racist people in asia outside of Japan, china's revolutionary culture has only declined over generations since mao and dengism has led to a chauvinist petite-bourgeoise collectivist society
>>2838103i'm not happy about it but it seems israel will come out of this having annexed a large part of lebanon. advancing it's cleansing and annexation of palestine and having contained iran. because the gcc countries even as they express some anger towards USA and israel, they seemingly fear them more than they are willing to align with iran against them
>>2838178How do you figure it seems that way? We don't know the content of any agreement yet, and we've been hearing that they're "close" to one for months. If anything Israel seems pretty desperate to prevent an agreement of any kind, which shows that they aren't confident that they'll be able to get a favourable one at this stage. Iran has also shown a willingness to stand by Lebanon at the very least, and is even willing to attack Israel to enforce its red lines there.
>>2838154There is no point in supporting either potential worker councils or current Iranian regime, you are supposed to support Iran. ANY Iranian state would be in the same predicament as it is today, and would require the same kind of support to fight off imperialists. It's kind of like Russia today, it just inherited all the USSR's troubles, but with a much weakened position - and much more retarded leadership. Supporting worker councils in Iran won't change the need to defend Iran from imperialism.
>>2837906breakdown:
>alleged leak states that Iran gets a bunch of stuff, much more stuff of what the US regime wants or is willing to accept publicly.>trump saves faces, denies the leak.So in the end, if Iranians accepts the deal, there will be a massive media campaign to portray that trump didn't lose.
>>2838040Since when that was Iran's goals?
but the defeat of the us and its lackeys in the gulf states is a win for humanity, nonetheless.
seethe, and mald.
us regime claims of an agreement signing this weekend in Geneva have been denied by Iran.
>>2838154Last I checked the small plutocratic oligarchy a tugboat ride from Iran's borders and which is an unpopular sunni settler-colony on a shia population is
still standing, let alone even the fucking US base, which is still described as "is" and not "was"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Support_Activity_Bahrainlet alone Israel. >Hezbollah's Hussein Al-Haj Hassan to Al Jazeera: What we have been clearly informed by Iran is that Lebanon is included in the ceasefire. We were also informed that Israel will withdraw from Lebanese territory according to the agreement. We will never accept a return to the situation before March 2, 2026, and Israel has no right to stay on our land.
>>2838271thank you iran very cool
but this wonæ't last
>>2838281yeah….
the sad part is that the us regime will wake up any day, and violate any agreement.
>>2838118>if the US mainland hasnt been nuked, this is an iranian defeat!correct
why are they having the funeral of khamenei so late? aren't muslims supposed to be buried like in 3 days time from the moment they die or something?
>>2839065because it's an extremely common Israeli tactic to bomb funerals.
>>2839065>why are they taking precautions for an event where a lot of important people presumably are going to be present outside with a clear line of fire because the enemy doesn't have a soul
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