How come there aren't any communist mass shooters?
I've noticed that all mass shooters have reactionary ideologies or liberal ones (such as Audrey Hale) and that makes sense, the degeneracy and contradictions of such systems show up on these but I'm surprised there isn't even one (popular) case of a delusional communist shooting up a Walmart to start a revolution.
If someone knows any cases where the perp is left wing pls share it I want to research more in it.
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>>2827837Not shooters in the modern sense, but look up 'propaganda of the deed', it is an anarchist speciality, but I think communists are more aware that the issues in society are systemic and not a battle of ideas and individuals so we're more strategic about it and don't simply do it for the clout.
Sendero Luminoso would do mass shootings in Rondero villages
I did a deep dive into this a while back and legit the closest thing we have is connor betts who retweeted a bunch of antifa stuff, his attack had literally nothing to do with politics though and he died in like a minute (somehow managed to kill 9 people in 40 seconds).
In general leftist targets are way more difficult. Rich people or cops or whatever are thousands of times harder than random unarmed black people with 0 security. Also even if you are mentally ill or a psychopath all leftists understand on some level that shooting random people doesn't cause revolution. Right wingers like tarrant genuinely believed they would cause some racewar and be freed from prison. Leftists have no such delusion of ushering in a revolution with a single act of one person. There's not really any situation that would make sense with a leftist doctrine that would also result in a high score. Unless you can find some neo-nazi meeting or something there's little incentive to spray into a crowd
>>2827862I feel the energy in the air as porky with a stick, begging, pleading, even. "Do something! Do something so I can use you as a distraction!"
Honestly, need not do much, other than continued education and advocacy. The things that are to come to pass will come to pass.
read Trotsky
Audrey Hale barely had ideology she wanted to fuck brown woman and had a meltdown. The early "manifesto" leak was fake made up bullshit.
Still i would put her in that same category as the recent quirkwaffen wave of shooters because:
>chantardism/shartytardism>young>le edgy xD>very underwhelming killcount>elaborate way to do a suicide by cop>>2827856>(somehow managed to kill 9 people in 40 seconds).That proves the superiority of left-wing shooters.
>>2827854Some adventurism work though. Tyler Robinson clearly has virtuous effects for the left and was terrible for MAGA, even if he was just a confused edgelord with barely any politics.
Because the FBI actually stops those shootings from happening
Mass shootings are one issue, and Marxists and Anarchists are too smart to do them.
But why aren't there more targeted assassinations of high ranking billionaires, CEOs, and fascists?
>>2827984because people don't want to throw their life away for something that won't ultimately achieve anything.
also, I feel like a lot of people kind of are caught up in the spectacle, they know they could go and shoot their neighbour if they wanted, but it doesn't really occur to them that they could be part of History and go and shoot the president or something.
>>2827837mass shootings are usually the work of misanthropes and nihilists. communism is the opposite of nihilism. we don't seek random acts of violence against the public, we seek to radicalize the public and unite them against our common enemy.
the better question is why aren't there any communist attacks targeting the bourgeois specifically? and the answer is because communists are lazy cowards generally lol.
>>2827871It's pretty scary to think about, he killed 9 people in actually 32 seconds and shot like 20 more non fatally. He was about to run into a club full of hundreds. I genuinely think he would've beat out anders breveik if he got inside. Insanely lucky that the police were nearby.
https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/wfqc0p/three_years_ago_on_august_4_2019_connor_betts/ >>2828247No niqqa lmao kill yourself asap
/pol/tards love posting charts with 0 context. Is it supposed to be mass shootings? In that case it's wrong as there haven't been 46 lefty mass shootings. Is it general violence? Then it isn't relevant to the conversation. All religious people are reactionaries so I'm not sure why you think it would matter anyway. We all know there's a bunch of islamic attacks that wouldn't justify killing children because of their religion this is literally an
>ISIS mosque
If there's any evidence of this why didn't you post it? Was him killing a 9 year old actually based because it was gonna be le evil terrorist?
>I don't condone what he did
Why not? It sounds like you think it was awesome considering you're here defending it. Can you explain what exactly was bad about what he did?
>Lets keep it real
How about your family gets shot and we can say you were a tarrant supporter so it's actually okay to shoot you and your family because they would've grown up to be terrorists
Marxism is when you kill Amerikkkans so every mass shooter is effectively marxist no matter who they target or what their dumb little manifestos say
>>2828247Kys you fascist cockroach
>How come there aren't any communist mass shooters?
I'm sure Felix's handler will send the activation phrase sometime soon.
>>2827837Americans do mass shootings and the last time Americans called themselves commies was in the 70s. That's when you had the Weather Underground.
>>2828325the weather undergound didn't do mass shootings? They placed bombs in buildings. the only death attributed to them was one of their own members who died making a bomb.
communists don't do mass shootings because it's ineffective.
although a mass shooting a soiree at mar a lago would be pretty funny >>2829053He really looked like a butch lesbian in that picture.
>>2829071He look like the fish man from hellboy
>>2828465
You will never touch a woman, timmy
>>2827856Zizek made an argument once that what distinguished Stalinism was that it had its roots in Enlightenment concepts of freedom and rationality, so at the end of the day "everyone is responsible for their crimes." Like, a lot of people were shot but it was important that the person being shot had
done something to deserve it, even if they hadn't really done anything, like they were expected to write a confession for being a counter-revolutionary saboteur even if they were beaten into it. A Colombian leftist militant group might shoot somebody, but the reason they shot that guy was because he was snitching, but maybe they just suspected it and the guy really wasn't. In any event it's at least necessary in the politics and ideology of a pretty wide part of the left, and very hard left at that, to accuse people of specific actions before putting a bullet in their brain. There are Stalinists who take this too far so they think every confession ever written in the 1930s is authentic proof of guilt, but that kind of autistic legalese is not what really happened. Still I think it's an important difference from indiscriminate fascist violence.
If you read Luigi Mangione's alleged note, he was like, well I'm not really qualified to explain why I blasted this guy in detail but healthcare is too expensive and these guys are abused the system for profit, so he had it coming!
Humans make history, right? So humans can also be blamed for their actions. But fascist violence that just wantonly kills people because they belong to the wrong ethnic group doesn't work like that. They'll try to justify it by saying the ethnic group committed crimes, but that's because the ethnic group has a criminal "nature."
>>2829130What about the ethnic transfers in the USSR wasn't that collective punishment?
>>2827854> https://leninism.su/works/63-tom-25/2180-ob-avantyurizme.html> Everyone else but me is an adventurer. OBEY ME, WORKER!Why are you even reading this ugly dwarf of dubious nationality?
>>2829164get a grip reactoid
>>2829365
Calm down Ben Gvir I know killing children gets your Satanic soul excited, but Communists do not want to see Arab kids getting blown up because Jews want more land or whatever.
>>2829365
I work for the IDF and I support this message!
because psychopaths tend to be pretty individualistic and self-absorbed and not really interested in the wellbeing of others
Does Elias Rodriguez count? That’s the only one I can remember
>>2827837the shooter in Montreal. we have the worlds first incel-communist
>>2829130This is stupid. Everyone wants to kill only the people they think are guilty of something. Of course any organisation or government should understand that killing must only be cold and practical. People who don't deserve it will die.
>>2848348Apparently a lot of the people killed were actually by Zionist security forces and they just said the bullets were all from the Japanese Red Army. The Zionists didn't allow any forensic investigation into the bullets or bullet wounds found in the bodies.
>>2848343The founder of r/Braincels was an anarcho-communist
>>2848351What is general consensus on this?
I thought that he was too much of a larper for my liking and he shot ip some random grocery store (apparently he didn’t go to pornhub hq) killing inconcent proles so I’d said im overal negative
The Montreal Shooter just yesterday was a commie incel
The Montreal shooter was a literal communist. Go thru his manifesto. He praises communism non stop quoting Marx and others all over the place
>>2848351I love how this stupid meme still has to performatively browbeat to us that, uhm, reminder sweaty, ackshually inceldom is still bad… okay! Even though the entire manifesto systematically refutes how this cope is endemic to the logic of the liberal social order's necessary myths. Keep alienating those who are already disenfranchised and deferring to experts, surely that will quell the rising discontentment and not Streisand effect or enrage it!
>>2848547Funnier still is knowing that the faggot who made the meme is probably either trans or in a cucked relationship where his settling wife isn't even sexually attracted to him.
>>2848537It's funny he will be smeared as right wing, because in this day and age leftwing is only measured in wokeness
>>2848552The truth is somewhere in the middle. If you read the manifesto he espouses an unintentionally syncretic mix of far-left and far-right talking points, because he makes the classical mistake a lot of entry-level Marxists do in misreading Marx's ontology to be a prescriptive conception of vulgar materialism qua naturalism, despite Marx & Engels explicitly warning against vulgar materialism. Because of this, he mistakenly ends up in the territory of hardline genetic-determinism/hereditarian and eugenicist thinking, which is classically right-wing. Otherwise, however, he uses left-wing analysis.
>>2848340That's target assasination, not mass shooting. This guy have been completely erased from existence extremely quick by the way, they did not want to inspire new Elias.
I'm shocked that nobody mentioned Michah X Johnson. He was a black nationalist who targeted cops.
>>2827856>cops or whatever are thousands of times harderMicah X Johnson killed 5 cops and injured 9.
>>2848534>>28485371 guy doesn't move the scale much, the left needs like 50 to catch up
>>2848553To be fair I can definitely see where that would come from, the first like 30 pages are super chud coded. It takes him a while to get into the communist stuff and even then it's mostly just "I can't have sex so I'm gonna shoot people". I wouldn't call him a right winger but it's easy to think that if you just skim it
>>2848565Genuine question, why are black nationalists considered left leaning?
Maybe it's because communists don't use violent means to exclude people who disagree with them or their perceived enemies, at least not in democratic societies. In democratic societies, they need to win over friends rather than make more enemies. Besides, burning down the parliament and blowing up government buildings sounds more like something the Nazis would do
>>2848597Knowledge of history at the toilet level
>>2848584I'm a Marxist-Leninist, you fucking retard. You're so backwards it's not even funny. If I were a left-com, I'd be blathering on about "Trans rights" or some other wrecker nonsense.
>>2848577>why are black nationalists considered left leaning?The same reason Hamas is left wing. They're anti imperialist and anti US hegemony.
>>2848654Rule 1: A leftcom never admits that he is a leftcom
>How come there aren't any communist mass shooters?
because adventurism and terrorism are retarded tactics that lead to failure. The rise of the far right is owed to burgeois support not chud retards shooting up supermarkets and mosques.
>>2848727Right now you come across precisely as what you are: a schizophrenic retard virtually indistinguishable from Polacks screeching about (unfalsifiable) shadow Jewry, apropos an unsubstantiated accusation you conjured up because something reflexively triggered you (which is already much closer to actual left-com behavior, btw–classical projection).
>>2827837mainly because I don't think there's any leftist political literature that says "shooting random groups of people will establish communism."
If you think about it, communism requires sociability and human cooperation as both an ideological tenet and as a practical means of organizing for its goals.
Not to say the left doesn't do violence. It does. It's just usually coordinated and with so much attempt at a greater purpose.
Also i suspect communists are much more likely to just kill themselves the to go do a mass shooting as a form of physical and social suicide. Why this is, i have no evidence for other than a lack of communist mass shooters and an abundance of right-wing/liberal mass killers.
>>2848577He did seem a bit reactionary (the shooter) though he was a communist and did say capitalism is the biggest threat not Judaism so…(I am not a terrorist and im against that Mr . Trump)
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