Jewish people are an ethno-religious group that have largely been ostracized from Christian/muslim society because they were here first. It’s created, beyond just a religion, a form of ethnic identity. This board believes in decolonization, and in the principle that children should not be judged for their identities and the identities of their parents. That should extend fully to Jews as well and it’s far and away the biggest issue I have with this “leftist” group that many of you want to exclude such a large population of historically marginalized people. Some of the best leftists from Marx and Luxembourg to Goldman and Bookchin, Jewish individuals have written much of the theory we practice today.
We can, and should, be antizionist, but antizionism ≠ antisemitism. The most bigoted thing you can do towards a Jew is to assume they are spoken for by a genocidal apartheid regime, and to unionize your fight for antizionism with the rights fight for antisemitism. Don’t get the two confused and don’t be a schmuck.
>>2828649>The most bigoted thing you can do towards a Jew is to assume they are spoken for by a genocidal apartheid regimelook man i get what you're trying to say with this thread but it's not gonna work here. they'll just show you the polls where 90% of jewish people are in favor of the genocidal state of israel, and dust their hands off and say their assumption will be correct 9 times out of 10 and they shouldn't have to put in the effort for the 1 jew out of 10 who is anti genocide. they will also point out that similar genocidal assumptions are made about white people and nobody bats an eye. they will furthermore point out that it is on those 1 out of 10 anti-genocide jews to do something in their own communities to tone down the zionism the same way the non-nazi germans were guilty of not opposing nazism hard enough.
>>2828649Those protestors represent a tiny minority of Israel. The vast majority of Israelis are fully on board with the genocide. Israel is fundamentally an imperialist genocidal project - there is no reasoning with it, there is no compromising with it, it must be dismantled. In the same way that Rhodesia was dismantled.
And yes I'm addressing your images and not your post itself because I know what you're trying to do. You're saying Jews but you're in favor of Israel as a nation state which makes you a Zionist.
Who cares? It's a non issue like complaining about antiwhite racism
>>2828739>just war crime them backexcellent solution i'm sure this will happen and that it's the first step to a better world
>>2828755ask netanyahu nicely im sure he has an open ear for you
>>2828649i agree with the point against antisemitism, but most of the stuff that happens in the real world really isn't about identity in general even if the participants believe it is. the mistake of a chunk of the pro-palestine movement was arguing on the grounds of identity, when the problems the gaza massacre exposed were the same problems that the purpose of marxism is trying to address, namely a world where nation-states and capital motivate our reasoning and our actions by necessity, as banal as that sounds. getting bogged down in the particularities of identity and jewish opinion polls or fantasies of vengeance upon the zionists really does more to obfuscate that fundamental truth than to pursue a solution, no matter how unrealistic the marxist one may seem
>>2828741I want to make it clear that I am against the existence of Israel. It was started as a supremacist movement with widespread terrorism against Muslims in the region and has stayed that way for just about its entire existence. Maybe at one point they could’ve been reformed, maybe sometime in the future a state called Israel can even exist again in that region, but it will have to be completely different, politically AND culturally.
All of Israel’s politicians should be tried at The Hague and any just court would execute them. The majority of Israeli society that does passionately support this genocide should be imprisoned and the propaganda they spread to their children outlawed. However the real number of worldwide Jews that when met with the photos of mangled children will ardently support the regime is, I think a lot lower than 87%. The best thing we can do for them isn’t treat them like a monolith, or a near monolith, and to try and break that isolationist bubble their society put them in. We need to be more accepting of these people precisely BECAUSE they’re ostracized and see no path forward than through nationalism.
>>2828770What does capital have to do with Palestine? If Israel could employ them there wouldn't be a problem. Instead they want to do old fashioned tribal wipeouts and land grabs. Seems like what Palestine need is more capitalism. Or I suppose capital decided Palestinians are shitty workers? I suppose it will do that for the rest of us eventually.
>>2828649Please think of jewish feelings, this is the most important thing while a jewish supremacist settler regime is ravaging and mass killing children in lebanon and palestine with 95% support of global jewry 🥹
Jewish lives matter
#not all jews
>>2828901I don't believe you lol.
The images you posted gave the game away. Why would you post a protest in Tel Aviv unless you're trying to promote a narrative that Israel is salvageable? Your agenda is obvious.
>Maybe at one point they could’ve been reformed, maybe sometime in the future a state called Israel can even exist again in that regionbarf
>>2828755>i'm sure this will happenit won't
>and that it's the first step to a better worldit obviously is
>>2828753Antisemitism is a much more pressing threat than antiwhite racism given the number of synagogues being shot up by fascists.
>>2829150The difference is that one is an economic system and the other is a massive group of people. This association is exactly the problem, being for the rights of Jewish people is not “blue pilled”. It’s not even something adequately represented by Israel themselves, but idk if this board is ready for the “Israel are the real antisemites” conversation.
>>2829163Pretty sure half those shoot ups are false flags
>>2829211He wants you to support Zion Don like the guy in his picture.
>>2829135the choice between wage labor and slow death is exactly the choice capitalism offers to the poor. the sort of violence palestine has faced over the years has numerous analogies in history and isn't that unusual to the losers of the capitalist system
>>2829346>first use “trump derangement syndrome” was by Esther GoldbergHAHAHA
cut em and suck em right Epstein
>>2829363Circumcision should be banned but frankly it’s practiced by Christian’s in America about as extensively, and is much less harmful than female genital mutilation practiced by Muslim cultures.
Bump bc I have free will
>>2828755have you heard of de-nazificiation?
>>2833890Didn't work lmao.
>>2833894then we'll have to be more thorough this time :)
>>2828755Get the fuck out of Palestine you rat
The fundamental problem is that Muslims/Arabs want to actually genocide Jews (as in literally kill them all). Israelis know this, which is why they developed nukes to protect themselves.
>>2828739>>2828686those polls are by israel backed think tanks though.
>>2833904There are so many issues I have with this, but for starters Israel’s nukes weren’t developed, they were stolen.
>>2833898Maybe abolish wage labor and commodity production so that nazism can't even exist.
>>2833904The whole world is reactionary
>>2833890how's that working for germany today?
>>2833901sorry to disappoint but I'm nowhere near the middle east, and neither are you uyghur
>>2828649>We can, and should, be antizionist, but antizionism ≠ antisemitism. But all Zionism is, is the belief Jews should have their homeland in the Middle East on top of Palestine. And most all Jews believe the state of Israel should exist. Only a small minority disagree with that.
>>2829163>Antisemitism is a much more pressing threat than antiwhite racism given the number of synagogues being shot up by fascists. This is not really a sincere argument because you yankees shoot up every type of building imaginable.
Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, the jews are much more safer than various other racialized minorities.
>>2829163>Antisemitism is a much more pressing threat than antiwhite racism given the number of synagogues being shot up by fascists. everybody thinks their own group is the most attacked in multiculturalism. but this condition wasn't brought about by whites, not in america anyway.
Jews ate my foreskin
>>2834367why are we posting this nazi jew?
>>2834510you're just saying anything
“Jews are fine but a country full of Jews is not fine” - leftist anti zionists, probably
>>2828739giga zased and co signed
don't listen to this queer
>>2828755 and his low quality bait
As an Arab I can't but feel proud that my cousins live rent free in the heads of right and left wings of capital
Fuck zios doe
>>2836215It’s not whether or not the country is full of Jews, it’s whether or not it’s full of Jews to the detriment of goyim who want to live there.
>>2836471>who want to live thereI think you meant
<who already live there >>2828686>>2828739i like how essentially the same post making the same point was made back to back but the retarded and hostile version with the gay ass soyjak picture got all the replies
>>2834367>do you think palestinians care whether or not someone is a leo frank truthan actually true point
immediately followed by
>saying he was innocent has a direct line to the genocide todaywell wait… which is it? one second he was correctly saying it's irrelevant to the palestine thing, the next second he's saying it's relevant. he should have stuck to the first statement
>>2834253i'm not reading it because it says shlomo on the cover and i'm a retard
After Hitler's death a new version of Mein Kampf was released with thousands of footnotes calling out his bullshit, and all sales of the book were donated to Jewish families. What nobody talks about tho, is that in the 60s Jewish bankers and politicians ended the deal to incentivize Israelis to continue stealing from Palestinians amid the wave of decolonization and racial equality sweeping the west
>>2836531The jewish continuous genealogy stories are myths, and jews are made up of converts from the areas they lived.
Thank you, god bless.
>>2838875Just like Kars 4 Kids but with Hitler!
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