/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2829416
In a word; nimbys
People who vainly extol the past and often are closeted racists who just think the presence of multiracial people brings down property value. People who ignored Eisenhower warning of a military industrial complex but licked his boots to defend the troops in the genocides he waged. People who voted for trump, ever. People who voted for bush, either.

More importantly I really wanna go through this schizo list of takes you think makes someone a “fake leftist”

>being religious
There are some groups that use religion constructively, we all needed something to explain the world we entered into and each community invented their own fascinating histories. Don’t discount it immediately, but I doubt you’ll run into many people not extolling the abrahamic or Hindu gods in a traditionalist way so I’ll allow it.

>against violent opposition to fascists
>antigun
>”tucker/fuentes had good points”
>likes Candace Owen’s
>against violent opposition to fascists again
>defensive of trump
>complains about wokeness
>thinks race is real
>thinks autism score is real
Agree, weird how you need to keep mentioning disavowing specific fascists, but whatever

>thinks opposing Israel is more important than opposing capitalism
Don’t pit these against each other, decolonialism is anti-capitalism

>watches Hasan
I watch a lot of twitch, some channels, especially hasan, are a great way to stay up to date on everyday politics.

>likes modern day Russia
Duh
>supports Ukraine
I support Ukraine in the war.

>likes the unabomber
I always do ironically for the most part

>is a pedophile
Shoot them.

de bait abobe

>>2829416
>supports small businesses, "indie" anything
>overly focused on cultural issues
>supports any of the attack dogs of imperialism, from the most openly genocidal in Israel and Ukraine to supposedly benign ones like Worst Korea and EU as a whole
>acts like the middle class is a thing
>puts too much into the idea of genetic relation
I caught almost every single Hitler particle with the point about small business since these people are not diverse in what they think.

>>2829495
You should be supporting small local businesses if it’s at the detriment of corporations.

>>2829416
Leninists, I respect them and give conditional support for their advocacy of national liberation and anti imperialism but it's just state capitalism with the false promise that they're somehow building socialism while the actual proletariat has little to no agency.

There are no fake leftists, but there are fake communists.

People who shill for Demonrats (the lengths so many amerikkkana on this board are going to in order to defend Graham "I love killing brown people and getting Nazi tats" Platner is insane).

>Is a pedophile
I promise you Beria was a much better and relevant leftist than you or anyone after 1968 bro.(USER ALREADY BANNED)

>>2829416
Broadly: has a personality type at odds with that of the broad swathe of leftists and liberals.
Any specific policy position runs into the problem that most people don't think that hard about policy and may have different psychological motivations for arriving at their stupid opinions. A socdem who is kind of passively anti-transgender because they think it loses elections is typologically a socdem with a stupid opinion, which is broadly of the leftish-type, while a much better read socialist may still be a fake leftist if they're clearly obsessed with hating transhumanists to the detriment of their socialism. (e.g. typologically they are anti-transgender with incidental socialist views)
If this is too contentious, consider guns: a socdem who is anti-gun because guns hurt people is clearly left-liberal, a socialist who is pro-gun because they see it as necessary to bring about radical social change is clearly leftist too, while a "socialist" who is pro-gun because they have intense fantasies of shooting everyone who ever wronged them is a nutter who is very likely to be won over by the right's greater indulgence of that fantasy.

In big-5 terms, you are very likely to be a "fake leftist" if you are all of these:
>low openness
>low agreeableness
>low neuroticism
with openness being the single most important trait (it's hard to want to upend the status quo if you hate new things), followed by agreeableness (leftism is, after all, wanting nice things…), then neuroticism. (this one's more statistical: a lot of leftists and liberals want leftist and liberal policy because it provides security, and they identify their neurotic tendencies with an external cause in the economic/social system. this is also why liberals trend left in reality, because as their specific social issues no longer serve as an adequate explanation for why they feel the way they do, they intellectualise it further and go "It must be the entire social and economic system, Marx was right!")

These things are also relative by country. That is to say, in the developing world a socialist may be low on all 3 of those traits by first-world standards (because of a more generally conservative society etc), but he will be relatively high on them by his own country's standards.