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Compagne e compagni shitaliani unitevi. Let's talk about our unions! I really can't fanthom how we all saw the potential in just converging on something like last october's general strike yet unions just said fuck it and still call strikes days apart and refuse to cooperate. As much as i'm aligned with the values of the PaP / USB / Cobas axis i find their open opposition to the CGIL actively harmful to the struggle, and their pretensions to actually compete with it delusional. Since there's no mass party anymore, we can't expect a union representing 5 mln workers (by far the biggest) choose to just take the side of a political party when the radical left can't even manage 4% in regional elections in a coalition. The cgil won't fall because a 200k member union is calling strikes with 3 people days before (if you've been to cgil strikes and usb / cobas strikes you know what i'm talking about, there's no question about which has the most participants). So now what should have been the vanguard of a new politicized unionism that could have guided our only relevant union into being a machine of political change like it was in the golden era of the PCI, has actively made it their enemy. And no, it's not a problem of it being "moderate", the internal currentism and history prove that it can be something else if changed from the inside.

Is it true Italian boys want to fuck their moms? That's kinda weird bros…

>>2829755
>Italian left 'peak' isn't the 1919 revolution but bunch of sporadic big tent libshit protests
lol

>>2829755
Eurocommunism was the end of any potential franco-italian socialism.

>>2829422
what about your five star movement? or the fact that you guys have regular workers strike, blockades, and protests in solidarity with Palestine? I mean, technically, yeah I know most of the country is going to be conservative and stuff, but as an American, the labor movement you have is a thousand times better than what we have here. the thing you're lacking, however, is large movements of liberal/progressive ideas, and that's something we have here. but cant you guys go off of that labor movement? build something like the M5S, only bigger, more radical? of course large amounts of the country would be so staunchly opposed because of the sheer conservatism and nationalism, but having a large amount of people who would agree is also a good thing, no?
forgive me if I lack any basic knowledge on the topic or misunderstood something, I'm a stupid burger

>>2829795
the m5s is a centrist cattle party, though i'll have to admit they had some very progressive views about welfare and as much as it was meme'd here, i appreciated the reddito di cittadinanza (which was basically neetbux for non workers looking for a job). With all its flaws (not nearly enough money to survive on is basic but the biggest) it was the closest we ever got to ubi in italy, something that not even the socdem left even attempted. Now the neofascists in power killed it though. We do have real radical parties (rifondazione and PaP being the biggest, but many, many more smaller ones) but they're scattered and always infighting. Rifondazione recently entered the 'campo largo', basically a coalition with anyone but the right (even the m5s is in it) for the next elections. A guy i know which is in our city's governance (the only seat rifondazione managed to take here) is feeling betrayed by the party. I remember the vote in the party to enter the campo largo was very close, with like 2-3 votes of difference. I can honestly see how we're worried for the 2027 elections and try to win against the new right at all costs yet i'm not really all in on that reason. I think PaP (potere al popolo) is showing some great promise, but they think they can actively oppose the cgil (which is the biggest union here, THE way workers are organized) and make a difference with a union that has like 1/100 of its members (usb). As much as i dislike the recent administration of the cgil, spitting on it equals on spitting on workers. And it's too big of a beast to defeat, a party that knows what they're doing should try to hegemonize it somewhat or at least not make them their enemy. We've seen the cgil do some pretty 'radical' shit recently, for example workers in Genoa just fucking rammed the police with machinery when they were getting fired last year. The problem with the cgil is that they're waiting a mass party that's sadly not here now.


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