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>>2786133 389 posts and 99 image replies omitted.>>2879540>Aishengna was established in August 2023 with registered capital of 7 billion yuan ($1.0 billion), backed by just two state-owned shareholders — Shanghai Electric Holding and a subsidiary of Shanghai International Trust, according to corporate records.
>Little is known about the firm, which does not have a website and has disclosed nothing publicly about its operations. The source said the company has incorporated teams from lithography startup Yuliangsheng, which had begun testing a DUV prototype last year, and Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment (SMEE).
>SMEE and Yuliangsheng, which is an affiliate of Huawei-backed equipment maker SiCarrier, are deeply involved in Beijing's semiconductor self-sufficiency efforts.
>Corporate and recruitment records show Aishengna and Yuliangsheng share an address in Shanghai.State-owned company, formerly a subsidiary of a cooperative of Huawei, with investors being other state-owned companies. "Capitalism in China" believers are in shambles
>>2853101You see so many of these guys on Rednote. I legitimately think the Chinese interest with western fascist aesthetics comes from hearts of iron mods and I'm not even joking.
>>2882114Why do you pretend that han chauvinists have never existed in chinese history?
>>2882161yeh wojak memes have a three thousand year history in china very organic
>>2883259Class struggle doesn’t end under socialism or a DOTP, it increases
>>2883266Yes, in this case it's the struggle of reactionary bourgeois workerism and unionism against the dotp
>>2883269Or its the proletariat following Mao’s advice that it’s always justified to rebel against reactionaries and bomb the headquarters of the bureaucrats and the capitalists inside the party and out
>>2883270How'd that work out for him?
>DotP
China is a corporatist "people's" dictatorship led by the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist class.
>>2883279The party and the army to the right of Deng got purged, their legacy is what ended the Jiang Zemin nonsense
>>2883259I have heard the original mods were couped by the current mods. Is that true, and if so, how the fuck does that work? Can't the private owner of the website simply terminate the domain name if it gets taken over by mods who disagree with the original owner?
>>2883259Fucking André Barbieri, he's irrelevant even between the brazillian troskos.
>>2883307there are an absurd number of exceptions:
if the domain owner is an absentee (the vps owner was) then the domain will stay pointed at whatever server it was configured for for as long as the account is paid.
if the domain is pointed to a 3rd party dns zone then you don't need access to the registrar account to move the domain to a new server.
if the domain is being managed by whatever team does day to day development and operations then you just need to rotate the creds and migrate the account email address to steal the domain.
internet companies fucking suck and due to a steady stream of vexatious litigation in the 90s and ICANN being a wholly american (ie: corrupt and dysfunctional) organization it's standard operating procedure to falsify and anonymize all registrant details filed with ICANN so it's basically impossible to know who owns what or when things change hands.
in alot of ways controlling the backbone is also an american soft power flex.
there's replacements, but they all kind of suck: either you need some kind of distributed ledger (blockchain, super wasteful, in practice just ICANN with extra steps), or you need some kind of peer to peer system (sketchy, no standards, no adoption).
probably the best replacement is GNS, but I don't think it's ever escaping research and academia.
https://www.gnunet.org/en/gns.html >>2883312Thanks! First time I got a good answer to that.
>>2882096>Why is Choynah™ imperializing Kenya so ruthlessly?!>>2883284>China is a corporatist "people's" dictatorship led by the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist class.Let's say China really is imperialist. OK. Fine. Just a thought: US imperialism has, contrary to chinese imperialism, relied on keeping the productive forces of peripheral countries underdeveloped so they can be raw material providers. chinese imperialism on the other hand develops productive forces in the periphery. If China exploits the third world, but also develops them into near peer rivals of the G7, isn't that, in the long run, a good thing, since it diminishes capitalist hegemony and creates a global bourgeoisie and global educated proletariat living under more or less universal exploitation of similar magnitude, similar standards of living, and similar productive forces, so that finally a global proletarian culture can develop no longer segregated by national identity or level of development, and creating the conditions for the final global proletarian revolution?
>>2883317Furthermore, whenever USA traded with developing countries, sold them industrial product required for developing further, nobody objected such imperialism either. Nobody has any issues with USA, for example, eradicating screwworms.
>>2883314no worries mate. lot of cunts that just post on here to be annoying, or run their mouth when they're just as ignorant as anyone else.
FWIW I don't believe the bullshit conspiracies: the site definitely got compromised and broke. for your own safety you should assume that the owners of every website are hostile.
>>2883285So, are those unions and strikers demanding a revolution from below or narrow workerist concessions?
What's their programme? Maybe the tianamen rioters were also trying to bombard the headquarters, surely we should support "the masses"
>>2883320>Nobody has any issues with USA, for example, eradicating screwworms.I'm pretty sure you'd find screwworm fans in the siberia animal threads.
>>2882161I said that Chinese people are interested in western fascist aesthetics because of hoi4 mods. Not that Han racial superiority isn't a thing.
Half the conversations on this website are like this. Your position on everything and baee internal thoughts will be assessed from one comment and you'll be attacked for that assumption.
>>2883317+
For a board that exalts Stalin and diamat, it sure has trouble understanding
quantity has a quality of its own.
If china is i.perialist, then imperialism is good and we need to revise marxism
Mayhaps this is a fair place to ask~ 💟
So I have been reading about Cosmist philosophy again, and I cannot help but notice that some of it really sounds like Chinese philosophical in several ways (with variations obviously), with regard to stuff like the ancestor respect and various other aspects, and I wonder if there's any good reading on the sort of evaluation of the Chinese pertaining to the study of Russian thought and Orthodox religion since that sorta content is not so easy to find on the Western tools.
Also this is late but did anyone else enjoy how massively based the end of the Wandering Earth was? I thought it felt sorta Lysenkoist, in a good way, how his father gave his life to help save the Earth in explicit rejection of the idea that humanity could be encapsulated by the idol of AI or by the simple decomposition into genes, how beautiful a message for our era,
in this harsh postmodern realm.
Can we have that email field back, out of curiousity? It kind of has a nostalgic feel.
>>2883881>second worldMao's three worlds is the most correct three worlds theory. First world is USA, also contained USSR, THE imperialist country. Second world are countries dependent on imperialist for everything - Europe, and with USSR's dissolution, USA inherited USSR's vassal states. Third world are the rest, nations in constant struggle against own gusanos and for own independence.
>>2883883>then imperialism is good and we need to revise marxismno need to revise anything, lenin already explained why imperialism is based and why anti-imperialism is a sham and a humbug
>>2884887>Mao's three worlds is the most correct three worlds theory. First world is USA, also contained USSR, [one of the] THE imperialist countr[ies, but notably bordering the then-socialist PRC, creating an elevated security threat under the Khrushchevite clique's degeneration]. Second world are countries dependent on imperialist for everything - Europe, and with USSR's dissolution, USA inherited USSR's vassal states [and the Reform and Opening Up led the PRC to replace USSR's social-imperialist placement within the first world, accelerating in the 2010s-present]. Third world are the rest, nations in constant struggle against own gusanos and for own independence.Indeed, kinda brave of you to say that in the /PRCope/ general ngl
>>2884887So true. Brezhnevite USSR was worse than de Gaullist France. Chairman Mao said so!
>>2887009>worseHow is 1st world worse than 2nd world? It's not a moral category, it's a position in world economics and politics, imperialism, yeah?
>>2887009That's right in the /PRCope/ general we
hate Marxism-Leninism, revolution and
especially Mao-Zedong-Thought!
Mao Tsetung was anti-Marxist-Leninist and revisionist.
>>2887026Worse in way of invading countries? Sure. 2nd world was like a trophy 1st world countries fought over diplomatically. 3rd world was left behind in that struggle, even though USSR initially went full on trying to help them under Stalin
>>2887037worse as in an even more tyrannical dictatorship of the bourgeoisie,it's right there in the text
>>2887082>worse as in an even more tyrannical dictatorship of the bourgeoisie,it's right there in the textSo glad we don't take up words of men as gospel on this site!
>>2887025The anti marxists won, cope and seethe marxoid
China (And Iran BTFO's Drumpf's timeline) just saved Cuba:
>They are swapping their gas-guzzling 1950s American cars for electric motorcycles and rickshaws from China; importing hefty lithium batteries to keep televisions and fans running through blackouts; jury-rigging generators to run on more accessible natural gas; and installing solar panels on rooftops and even vehicles.>The result is that Cuba has lasted far longer without fuel shipments than the Trump administration expected.>After hearing about the oil blockade, Mr. Palmero learned on YouTube how to distill junk plastic into homemade gasoline and diesel. He has since built a tiny, makeshift refinery in his backyard to power his motorcycle and light his stove.>“We look for solutions,” he said. “The economic restrictions are slowly killing us, but we’re pulling through with all our might, managing to get by until we see what happens next.”
>In Havana and beyond, the crisis’s effects were clear.>We met families walking two hours for water because government pumps had run out of diesel. Women, lacking gas, cooked with firewood on the street. Powerless refrigerators became cabinets. Hitchhikers littered roadsides after the city halted public busing. And dozens of people told us they were simply exhausted after so many sleepless nights in the sweltering heat without fans or air-conditioning.
>Vehicles were on the road — despite black-market gasoline reaching $30 a gallon — because many were electric. Restaurants were open for the few who could afford them, powered by rumbling generators out back. Hospitals, government buildings and the airport had power because they were on protected parts of the grid. Medical clinics, nursing homes and bank branches ran off solar panels donated by China.>Cell service was sometimes working. Televisions showing the World Cup were not hard to find. And even roadside stands were serving cold beer from refrigerators powered by the sun.
>While not everyone can afford alternative power sources, their energy has trickled down. Electric rickshaws ferry people to work. Solar panels have kept stores open. And people charge their phones and lanterns off their neighbor’s battery or the generator at work.>In one neighborhood, we saw one of the few families with a generator set up a television in the street so children could watch cartoons.>“We have not reached the point of having a humanitarian crisis precisely because of the strength of our society,” Mr. Fernández de Cossío, Cuba’s deputy foreign minister, said in Havana’s Fidel Castro museum, where the lights were on but the air-conditioning had failed. “The intimate expectation in political circles in the United States was that Cuba could not survive beyond April. And here we are.”
>As a result, Cuba has been powering its electric grid solely with domestic oil and gas and a growing network of solar parks sponsored by China. Together, they are enough to support roughly half of Cuban demand, according to Jorge Piñón, who studies Cuban energy at the University of Texas.>To preserve that supply, the government strategically cuts power at certain times and in certain places. It also runs plants at lower capacity to keep them from failing; extracts more natural gas; and even tries to refine sludgy oil residues from the bottom of years-old tanks.>Mr. Piñón said he and other analysts underestimated the Cuban government’s resourcefulness when they forecast it would exhaust its fuel stocks by March.
>At least some is coming from the United States. The Trump administration has allowed limited fuel exports to private businesses in Cuba, which has relieved pressure on black-market gas prices. And last week, the U.S. government’s first batch of $100 million in aid arrived.>The moves show how the Trump administration is exerting power over Cuba, ordering other nations to halt fuel shipments but allowing its own, and then providing aid in response to the resulting crisis. A White House spokeswoman said the Trump administration viewed Cuba as a threat to national security.>Exhausted Cubans told us they were angry at both Havana and Washington. Yet no one said they planned to take to the streets. Aside from banging pots and pans, the Cuban people have hardly staged protests.
>On the road west, we met Abel Menéndez on a roof blanketed in panels. He has been selling and installing solar kits for five years, he said, but now both supply and demand have skyrocketed. At the same time, costs have dropped, to about $400 a panel from $500 a year earlier. “People are constantly calling,” he said.>We also came across a new field of panels — one of the government’s 54 solar parks, most inaugurated since 2025 and all built with China’s help.>Few countries are adopting solar faster than Cuba. Solar energy can now meet roughly 10 percent of Cuba’s electricity needs, the government says, up from 3 percent at the start of 2025. Cuban officials aim to depend fully on renewable energy by 2050.>For now, solar provides a boost, but it hardly solves Cuba’s problem. The island lacks the massive batteries needed to store solar power. That means it can provide roughly 20 percent of Cuba’s electricity at midday, but virtually none after the sun sets, during peak demand.
>Perhaps Cuba’s hottest product of the moment are portable lithium batteries that can be charged in a few hours and then temporarily power televisions, fans or even refrigerators.>The most popular model costs about $750 in Cuba, sold on social media by Cubans who have imported them from China.
>Other Cubans are electrifying their homes with the gas piped in for cooking and heating water. About 280,000 residences in Havana have such gas lines, and many are connecting them to modified generators designed to run on liquid fuel. Cuba produces the gas domestically, so it is one of the few energy sources not affected by the blockade.>The gas is also cheap, especially for the 120,000 households that pay a flat rate regardless of use. One man said he had been running a generator off gas almost nonstop, and yet was still billed the same 50 pesos, or eight cents, for the month.https://archive.is/ebxvpsort of offtopic but i think the horseshoe model and the left-right linear model and other models people invent for describing politics are fundamentally flawed, i mean if your linear model has to be amended into a circular horseshoe shape to better account for reality that ought to tell you that your whole conception of politics was bunk to begin with. before you can start drawing up a model you have to figure out where exactly the delineation is, what is the specific thing that people become politically divided over. personally i don't think it is about policy or structure, i think it is a psychological/epistemological division, it's about how people think and see the world and their place in it. i think the real fundamental difference is between people who think they are separate from the world and people who do not, between narcissism and humility. if a person thinks that one or a few elite rulers can and should decide the fate of the entire world, it doesn't really make any difference how the monarchy/vanguard rules or how they structure everything or what checks and balances they program in or how benevolent or malevolent they are, they have already stepped over the line from humble human beings to egomaniacal wannabe demigods just by believing that they have the right and the ability to wield such power, by believing that they are a higher observer outside of everything and that they aren't just a small insignificant locality in a vast system. the cruel nihilistic tyrant and the caring paternalistic tyrant are both still tyrants, and the latter kind of tyrant flips to the former kind in the blink of an eye.
>>2883881It's harder to attain polytechnic education in the burgerreich than in China as a prole, but when it comes to developing the productive forces and "proletarization" I don't see how developing productive forces in USA differs from developing the productive forces in China. China is a communist party-state but the methods they use for developing productive forces still keep the class dynamics and the time horizon for Communism and comprehensively reworking those relations of productions is 100+ years, Xi said that himself
>the consolidation and development of the socialist system […] will require the tireless struggle of generations, up to ten generations (200ish years).If Chinese approach of "communism must win but only after capacity of developing productive forces of capitalism (and every mixed system) will be exhausted" is correct then developing the productive forces in USA also would help global socialism, right?
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