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Literally just abolish ALL taxes except a SINGLE progressive INCOME tax.

Virtually all taxes are a scam to steal money from the proletariat.

Property taxes? Money stolen directly from house owning proles and indirectly from renters to fund local capitalist government.

Sales tax/VAT? Money stolen from proles who just want to spend their hard earned money on things to survive and maybe enjoy a bit.

Payroll taxes? What a gigantic fucking scam. You are already fleeced by income taxes but now you are double fleeced by ANOTHER income tax that most don't even know or think about.

Social security/Medicare/equivalents in your country? What is the purpose of this when you already pay income tax? Why seperate this out? To guilt trip you into paying for something your exploiter needs to pay.

"Income" tax? It's a WAGE TAX. Porky makes his money from profits, capital gains, dividends, rents, financial boondoggling etc. Those things are taxed at much lower rates than they should be.

Here's what a pro-worker tax policy looks like. At the end of the year, you add up your total income - your salary + rental income + capital gains + dividends + literally anything that is "actually earned income"

Then you sort the population by income. The bottom 80% pay ZERO. The 80-99 percentile pay 40% on all earning above the 80th percentile income. The top 1% pay 80% above the 99th percentile income.

This tax would fund the government easily and no other tax is needed. The bloated military budget, various subsidies, inefficient govt orgs will be severely reduced or eliminated.

Remember that proles already had their money stolen by capitalists during labor time. EVERY DOLLAR OF TAX PAID BY A PROLE IS DOUBLE THEFT.

Also public execution for wealthy tax evaders.

>b-but what about wealth tax and inheritance tax


They count as income when they are transferred and the same rules apply.

>B-but big govt and taxes good.


No, as long as capitalists control the state, high taxes merely result in the state managing finances more than private capitalists. It makes it even harder for the proles to fight back because now they have to fight the state to claw back their income instead of individual private capitalists.

THE STATE IS THE SECURE PIGGY BANK CAPITALISTS USE TO TEMPORARILY STORE THEIR WEALTH WHEN THREATENED. THE STATE IS THE ENEMY. RAPE ALL SOCIAL DEMOCRATS TO DEATH.

>why not tax corporations/banks instead of individuals


Corporations/banks are shell games capitalists use to hide their PERSONAL wealth. You tax the biological person and not the arcane shell game.

>income tax
no. what you do is tax capital instead. preferably 100%

>>2833325
THINK for a second before posting anything.

What do taxes do? They transfer wealth from individuals to the state. "Taxing capital" a.k.a direct wealth taxes, transfers capital from private owners to the state.

But since the state is controlled by the capitalist class, all it does it make capital even harder to seize by the working class. Because rather than seizing it from an individual capitalist, the workers now have to seize it from the United front of all capitalists.

When the DotP is established, you don't even need to tax capital, you just directly sieze it. But we are talking about tax policy under capitalism demanded by a working class that has not yet siezed power.

>>2833328
>the state is controlled by the capitalist class
not if porkies have no capital

>>2833331
>what if capitalists with no capital
Oxymoron

>>2833331
Then the capitalists just become the deep state. They won't own capital in a formalistic legal sense but still control capital via the state. The state now pretends private property doesn't exist while continuing to let the deep state capitalists control all the strings and enjoy personal benefits

>>2833335
that's the idea yes
>>2833339
this is just "state capitalism" mongoloidism

>>2833315
Actually you want all taxes to come from the wage tax which gives the state a material incentive to keep wages high. Placing the tax burden on porkie just gives porkie more power in government.

>>2833355
>no argument
Thank you for conceding.

>>2833355
Fuck off glowie, the State VVILL be raped, you will have nowhere to hide

Both Rousseau and Smith supported a sales tax, and a sales tax was the largest contribution to state revenue in the USSR. I say, abolish income tax and raise sales taxes to a national standard. The benefit is that you can also exempt certain items and raise the rate on different items. Income tax was historically introduced to finance wars and was claimed to be temporary. It is oppressive policy.

>>2833315
Abolish the government

>>2833516
>USSR had sales tax therefore sales tax in porkoid dictatorship is fine
you seem to be unaware that most things that are bad in capitalism are good in a DotP and vice versa. let me put this into easy steps that you can hopefully grasp
1) abolish VAT, income tax and all other taxes on labour
2) institute 100% tax on capital
3) deal with porkies porking out
4) re-institute VAT, income tax etc once porky is gone, because these things aren't categorically wrong

>>2833531
Abolishing taxes on labor just subsidize industry, it's no different than how Walmart workers rely on food stamps. It's a liberal policy to reduce the cost of labor. It's no different than public housing and so on. I'm not totally against it of course.

>>2833516
Sales tax is a regressive tax that shifts the tax burden on to workers. It is unacceptable.

>>2833531
In a DotP with a capitalist economy, the effect of taxes remain the same. Sales tax/VAT continues to remain a regressive tax that reduces purchasing power of labor of the poorest section. You should have a progressive income tax here as well, since not all workers will have the same wages. The higher earning workers will have to pay more.

>>2833533
Wrong. A "subsidy" is something that reduces cost in one sector while shifting that cost burden to another sector. Reducing wage taxes while increasing taxes on profits/dividends/capital gains cannot be a subsidy to industry because they will cancel out.


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