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can we get a thread going about the protests going on in albania right now ? i wanna know more about what's going on as a foreign retard and we seem to have no thread about it despite it going on for about a week at this point.


fuck your stupid limit, faggots

What is going on?

The 2026 Zvërnec protests are an ongoing series of anti-government demonstrations in Albania. Protests began on 23 May in the villages of Zvërnec and Nartë in Vlorë County.[12] Locals and activists gathered to oppose construction of a proposed luxury resort, primarily backed by the American investor Jared Kushner and also by his wife, Ivanka Trump, incorporating environmentally protected land on the island of Sazan and the coastal area around Zvërnec.[13][14] Clashes between protesters and private security on 30 May drew international attention,[14] and the demonstrations expanded to the capital city of Tirana.[15] Protestors have broadened their stance to condemn political corruption and a lack of government transparency.[16][17]

>>2833975
According to Jared Kushner, he made his decision to build the island after seeing it from a boat, docking at its shore and climbing to its highest point. This is almost certainly a lie, as the island is filled with poisonous snakes and communist-era mines. Now, why is that so? The reason why Hoxha placed a military base there back in the days is to potentially be able to block ships from entering the Adriatic Sea. He wanted to use this as leverage to secure Albania's neutrality in the event of a world war. It's easy to see why the American Empire would also want to control shipping lanes in the Balkans. Now also take into account that Croatia has massive terminals for vessels carrying oil and LNG or that the Hungarian energy company MOL has recently purchased the shares of Russian energy companies in the Croatian and Serbian energy sector right after the Trump administration announced sanctions on these Russian companies. It was also Orbán who was trying to arrange the acquisition of the island before he was overthrown, forcing the Americans to involve themselves directly. And if shitrael was to succeed in cleansing Gaza, it would gain the ability to develop the gas fields near its shore. Coincidentally, Trump has also expressed his desire to build a luxury resort, located in Gaza. But of course by taking this island and with the help of Israel the US would also gain the ability to control oil and LNG shipments coming through the Bosporus or the Suez Canal.

It makes sense that the protests are being supported by pro-EU parties and so-called civic society organisations. Croatia has seen something similar in the recent elections where the right-wing party that played with the idea of quitting NATO was supported by Israel and the left-wing made anti-Israel and pro-EU statements, afaik. The EU doesn't want the US to gain influence in the Balkans and further control over its energy supply.

>>2833824
>>2833975
This is a certified darkest reaction moment. Albania used to be a real country that would have killed every single person involved on both sides.

will hoxha's albania be brought back?? is the communist party involved? if not, fuck off with liberal garbage protests

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>will hoxha's albania be brought back?? is the communist party involved? if not, fuck off with liberal garbage protests

NATO color revolution in the making that leftoids will uncritically cheer on regardless

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>>2834116
>NATO overthrowing loyal member state of NATO is whats happrning

>>2834127
Almost every war since 1990 has been America fucking over its own former allies that were perfectly content to let America rape the planet.

>>2834127
>I have learned literally nothing from Nepal, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Ukraine, etc

>>2834155
>The bureaucrat fascist (east) was replaced with bureaucrat fascist (west)
This makes the virtual ML (IMF) very angry

>>2834155
Why would the Americans try to overthrow Albania ? You have a popular anti-west movement in a country and you're unhappy ?

>>2834155
YOU learned nothing from Nepal.

>>2834158
>>2834165
>>2834174
Triggered the Banderites

>>2834175
I understand the sentiment but isn't the current Albanian government very much up in that zio-eu ass

>>2834175
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Enunciate your support for ChatGPT socfash Albanian govt. Nobody who you replied to claimed to support any bourgeois faction (why would they)?

>>2834175
Critical support for the CIA in their work to overthrow the NATO puppet of the Albanian Regime.

>>2834185
Mfs will call for multipolarity and then get angry when geopolitics can't be reduced to "America bad" anymore. If what >>2834049 says is true, then this seems to be in part a manifestation of the simmering split between Europe and the US.

>>2834182
Clearly not enough, like in Serbia they’ve decided that the current government isn’t sufficiently Zogged so they’re fomenting yet another color revolution which you’re falling for YET AGAIN. They’re literally using the same “anti-corruption” talking points used in other color revolutions and you’re still giving them the benefit of the doubt because leftists are addicted to spectacle

>>2834193
Why would America randomly overthrow Albania by using protests that are contesting America?

Edi Rama should be executed for crimes against Albania

>>2834193
Both sides can be western bootlickers at the same time. If you follow east european liberals in any way, you know just how schizophrenic and prone to infighting they are. Truly the most wretched people dreamt up by man. They can be 100.000.000% loyal to the imperialist machine and at the same time throw shade at each other the way Ukraine and Poland do. The west's whole thing has been divide and conquer ever since the conquest of the Aztec empire. The American empire took this to the next level during and after WWII, strife is beneficial to them in and of itself.

>>2834193
It's not a colour revolution, no one is asking for le human rights, they want Kusher to get his grubby jewish hands off their shit.

>>2834069
Ask Albanians what they think about Hoxha and you will have your answer.
>>2834116
There are NATO flags everywhere in Albania. Albanians love NATO and Bill Clinton because of the Kosovo war.
The country in the Balkans that hates NATO and doesn't have trouble with their communist past is Serbia.
However the funny thing is that both Albania and Serbia seems to fucking hate Jared Kushner, this fool really badly wants to build a luxury hotel in the region (in Serbia, he proposed to raze the buildings commemorating the 1999 NATO bombing of Belgrade to build a Trump tower, and Vucic was more or less in favor of it "to strengthen ties with America").

>>2834202
Not America necessarily, the Deep State plus NATO plus other international glowie orgs trying to create a more pliant regime using a moral panic about le Orange Man as cover

>>2834233
>create a more pliant regime
Why would they need to do so? They already love NATO to spite the Serbs, read about the Kosovo war.

>>2834233
Why would they need to do that ? Albania is already extremly loyal.
I don't get why some people here believe that everything in existance is a psyop or whatever, it's not shocking that people would protest the attempt to gentrify their city by a foreign government aided by a the local powers. It's not that different from the anti-tourism protests that happens once in a while in Catalonia.

Are they hitting western imperialism where it hurts with a strike and blocked roads, or doing frog costume routines inside the state's designated free speech zones?

>>2834237
Also Albanians absolutely don't need a Trump luxury resort near Vlorë, it's already one of the most touristic areas of Albania during summer.

>>2834235
>>2834237
All I’m saying is when yet another one of your Gen-Z anime flag anti-corruption protests installs a neoliberal government who ramps up the givas towards Zelensky don’t act surprised

>>2834250
Unlike Albania currently ?

>>2834210
serbs are just spiritually israeli as albanians or croats are, no excuses for those tribalistic balkanoids.
Heck, albanians before the collapse of socialism, did socialism much more better than the trotskyiste-bukharinist failed IMF experiment of yugoslavia, as yugoslavia has prooven to be a shithole in their minority regions.

just for the fact of their hostility to NATO doesnt excuse they were responsible for trying to set up ethnic republics and mass murder muslims in bosnia and kosovo after tito died, effectively destroying yugoslavia.

i blame parenti for creating the retardation of this absolute thought of serbia.

>>2834260
>Heck, albanians before the collapse of socialism, did socialism much more better than the trotskyiste-bukharinist failed IMF experiment of yugoslavia, as yugoslavia has prooven to be a shithole in their minority regions.
I was in Albania two years ago. I got lectured on the horrors of communism by a language teacher. When my friend asked an old man where there are some bunkers, he insulted him and told him to fuck off.
Meanwhile in Serbia, they tell you "Tito did some good things, some bad things, but at least we were in peace". You can still visit the mausoleum of Tito in Belgrade, but you can't visit the mausoleum of Hoxha in Tirana because it doesn't exist.

>just for the fact of their hostility to NATO doesnt excuse they were responsible for trying to set up ethnic republics and mass murder muslims in bosnia and kosovo after tito died, effectively destroying yugoslavia.

I never implied this. There were no good guys during the Yugoslavia war. Bosnians had it worse, but their army prostituted young girls and established a black market for the distribution of food and primary materials, they were no angels.
Serbs committed more war crimes, but at least they ousted Milosevic from power when enough was enough. Croats are still fascists to this day.
And I think Tito "did some good things, and did some bad things" and one of the things he did was giving more autonomy to regions, which at first was a good idea, but then gave rise to nationalistic sentiment in every region and then the Yugoslavia war happened when there was no one to replace him after he purged everyone else, even though all these retards speak the same language (except Slovenia).
Albanians in Kosovo are no angels either, many of them had ties to the mafia and started terrorist attacks on civilian Serbs, and it still happens sometimes to this day.

I like both Albanians and Serbs as normal people, and I intend to visit Bosnia one day because I'm sure they are bros too. I think intra-Balkan conflict is stupid, it's the most multicultural part of Europe and they could be a powerful part of the world if they were more united.

But my point was: If your sole factor for determining if a country is "based multipolar" or "cringe NATO ass-kisser", then Serbia is based and Albania licks the boot of the Great Satan.
And Albania absolutely hates its communist past because Hoxha became a paranoid retard after he was done ousting Zog and modernizing the country, while Serbia and most of ex-Yugoslavia see Tito as someone who unified the Balkan Slavs and made them powerful on the international scene.


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