If the goal of veganism is to not necessarily to end capitalism but the meat industry, or rather the consumption of meat as food and consumer products, would you say it would be possible to end an industry in such a way since we're not talking about capitalism itself or is it entirely moral spooks?
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The way non human animals are treated in inseparable from the power dynamics and the mode of production a society is in.
In capitalism animals are treated different from any non capitalist society, especially in the industrialised scale of commodification. Although gains can be made within capitalism the ultimate goal is the end of commodification of animals
Serious vegans are materialists, they believe in pressuring the industry itself rather than convincing everyone to become vegan, and they recognise animal liberation as part of the anti capitalist struggle
Can mass-scale slaughter of animals and processing into food be stopped while keeping capitalism? Let's look at it this way: What would be necessary for the opposite to be true? The opposite would be true if there were some fact about capitalism automatically leading to this mass-scale slaughter regardless of any regulations and regardless of demand. But this is absurd on the face of it, no? Of course it's not possible to prevent that somebody somewhere ever cooks and eats a hamster or whatever, but meat production can be regulated and it is regulated. There are taboos about eating certain animals in certain cultures (because they are classified as pets or as endangered or as "dirty") and there are some thorough regulations for that. We can just extrapolate something more extreme from this.
You don’t see the millions of insects, rodents, snakes, spiders, and frogs that get eaten by threshers for vegetables every harvest, nothing is vegan and I do mean nothing
Vegans are correct to point out the cruel absurdity of animal agriculture, however human agriculture has produced a surplus of prey animals from the elimination of predators and introduction of invasive species such that hunting such species within reasonable limits is completely pro social.