/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

post the photo

>>2835200
She had it in person along with a bunch of medals and a bunch of photos of her family in the Eastern Bloc, she says she got the photos only recently and is wondering about any museums or preservation societies she can donate a copy too since it doesn't appear to have any online.

>>2835193
your friend has a based grandma

>The funniest part is her grandma being white
who the fuck cares, plenty of socialists government had various internationalists socialist from all over participating and helping. Racial obsession is pathetic.

>>2835243
I don't think it's a bad thing, her grandma wasn't an immigrant btw, she was born there to settler parents, apparently refused to ever visit Portugal her whole life too.

i heard there was actually leftists that organized tours for anarchists and "anti north korean leftists" to go to North Korea and meet with Workers Party officials, which should be illegal but its not and idk why. I don't know what they do to them over there, but every single person who's gone came back as a full-blown North Korea supporter. I really don't get why so many anarchists hate the USSR and Stalin but then turn around and glaze Cuba, North Korea, or even China. Make it make sense.

>>2835303
there was a book written by a UN worker in the DPRK. in one part she mentinoed some of the few foreigners there were from a christian evangelical school in Pyongyang. that surprised me that the government would allow it to exist.
but my guess is that there is some hard currency, cheap education, and the missionaries think they're spreading the word of god. the western glow agencies think they have a foot in the door. the state security agents monitor it like rats in a trap. maybe it makes sense.

>>2835320
Kim Il-Sung was raised Presbyterian and despite renouncing that later in life, the inspiration is a bit obvious in Juche, not to mention the DPRK has a very significant Christian minority that practices freely in the country.

>>2835303
but then Operation: Dislodged Carousel Lute In the Tin Farm Submarine. What did the anarcho-jucheist-maoist-nuclear-squatologists and their plot to traverse rent free between your walls, all cracky and shit, do then?

>>2835193
that's awesome anon

>>2835303

What is it about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea that terrifies you so deeply? The mere suggestion that international leftists anarchists, Maoists, Juche followers, all the supposedly split leftist camps might visit the Workers Party, attend seminars, or study at Kim Il‑sung University sends you into a paranoid frenzy. You foam at the mouth; you demand it be made illegal.

Let's translate that demand, Sharing knowledge should be illegal. Exchanging lived revolutionary experience should be a crime. Communists of all tendencies should be denied freedom of movement, denied the right to learn from one another, denied the simple dignity of lived internationalism.

Capitalists travel freely between capitalist countries. A Harvard MBA can study in London, consult in Dubai, vacation in Singapore, and no one accuses them of "foreign manipulation." But when a leftist, really any leftist wants to see with their own eyes how a besieged socialist state actually functions, you scream of "national security threat."

So just admit it. You don't want communists to have any freedom at all. You want us isolated, atomized, surveilled, and cut off from every source of global knowledge.

>>2835320
iirc the christian minority was pretty involved in the resistance against the japanese which is why it was historically treated well in the dprk

>>2835303
>which should be illegal
why the fuck should it be you fucking slime fuck, imperialist retard

>I don't know what they do to them over there, but every single person who's gone came back as a full-blown North Korea supporter
maybe because they witness first hand a society that is admirable on many levels? straight up repeating cold war era "muh communism brainwashing" because like the anticommunists of old you cant fathom being wrong and a socialist society being desirable and convincing people

>>2837045
He's making it up you retard.

>>2837052

He's probably responding to a fed or some snitch, they're lying to you about North Korea but these tours are real. I've met plenty of anarchists and socialists in Spain who've been on those tours. It's not some big conspiracy of espionage it's just internationalism in action. Anarchists are leftists in the class struggle like the rest of us, always looking to expand their minds, build connections, and find common ground. That's why they'd fly to North Korea to see for themselves and talk with people. The idea that an anarchist would take orders from the CIA or the neoliberal order, and refuse a comrade's outstretched hand to come visit other human beings, is absurd and shows only a cop-level understanding of the brain of an anarchist.

This really only blows the minds of feds or people brand new to leftism. Anarchists travel constantly, and they'll visit communist nations just like any other nation. An eco-anarchist was on the run from the feds in the 90s and 2000s for a string of sabotage acts, Where do you think he fled? Not to a US ally, that's for sure.

There are many groups doing this internationalist work quietly, and some even run leftist study programs that can get you into Kim Il Sung University. The KFA is the biggest, most open leftist organization running these tours. Don't let the feds gaslight you, yeah the tours are real, and they're open to any serious leftist that plugs in, but they're not some organized conspiracy where you become some super-meth korean soldier.


>>The Korean Friendship Association (KFA) is a Spain-based organization that has run solidarity tours to North Korea for over two decades. They specifically arrange "travel delegations" for members, offering a level of access that goes far beyond a standard guided sightseeing trip. The KFA operates in 120 countries and has official delegates in 34 countries. They don't just show you the monuments; they connect you with the people and the party. A Dutch documentary, "Friends of Kim," chronicles one such 12-day tour

>>2837052

It is definitely real. The KFA took so many anarchists to meet with Workers Party officials one year that the CIA had to use one of their NGOs to send one of their own anarchist assets to North Korea. After he came back, he wrote "The Opposite of Freedom" to try and covertly discredit all the leftists and anarchists who were coming back from their genuine, non CIA-sponsored trips as supporters of the DPRK

>>2837107
>>But as an anarchist, why visit this graveyard of freedom?
>>as an anarchist


I've been turning this over in my head for a while, and I just can't shake the feeling that something is deeply wrong with this Pierre Garine. The account that's been passed around as a genuine, first-hand testimony might just be another one of the pieces of propaganda to come out of the US intelligence apparatus, looking to counter anarchist support for north korea.

For sure, any comrade with a functioning bullshit detector should treat "Pierre Garine" with the utmost suspicion.

>>The article was published in the Fall of 2013 for the Fifth Estate (#390). This was a crucial moment. Kim Jong Il had just died. A new, younger leader was at the helm. Global capitalism was still reeling from the 2008 crisis. A wave of anti-capitalist curiosity was rising, and with it, a fresh interest in the world's remaining actually existing socialist states from all left tendencies.

Certain people with the institute for anarchist studies visit Pyongyang for a large anti-imperialist celebration / rally and meetings with Kim Il Sung university students. So, right when Western anarchists might have started to look at the DPRK with an open mind the way they did Cuba, "Pierre Garine" appears out of thin air to deliver a message of "Don't bother. It's all a sad, weird, oppressive nightmare.".

Read the piece. Seriously, read it. It’s devoid of any warmth, curiosity, or solidarity. The very first line is "The very mention of the country’s name and a blizzard of buzzwords are released: Cult of Personality, Mass starvation, Nuclear-armed, Thought Control…". I have read thousands of Anarchist texts across multiple tendencies and eras, and this does not sound like an anarchist critique, it sounds like a cop. The whole article is a list of curated "buzzwords," thrown in with some truthful anarchist history, not a story of human experience. It reads like a script written for a covert purpose, rather than a genuine reflection of a journey from an anarchist.

If he's a real person, where is he? A revolutionary doesn't just write two essays and vanish. "Pierre Garine" has left no footprint regarding anarchism other. He appeared, performed a specific, politically useful task, and then… nothing. The only other essay Pierre released was an article celebrating burning man making it's way towards asia Burning Man as a movement and organization has undeniable institutional and ideological ties to Israel.


Anarquista??? No cuadra guey. Las matematicas no dan. gringo gabachos federales.