/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>infinite resources
Doesn't need to be infinite, just post-scarcity. As in more than everyone cumulatively needs.

>>2835456
>Absence of competition produces absence of incentive for innovation. Absence of innovation produces absence of productivity. Absence of productivity produces nothing

So like when the economy is mostly owned and operated by a few families who’ve monopolized industries and started rolling back our rights now that they have the control to do so. Is that not an absence of competition? When your “capitalism” (which is what you call the free market) becomes as centralized as any fully state commanded economy, what else do you call it but late stage? fuck off with yr hentai porn incel.

First of all none of the "socialist regimes" like USSR, Cuba, North Korea were/are actually socialist. In short they can be described as capitalism managed by the state with minimal internal competition. And in practice, it also involved large amounts of corruption, and was practised by backward countries who were prevented (and themselves prevented) free trade and transfer of technologies which resulted in stagnation.

So you are correct that maintaining capitalist political economy while eliminating competition resulted in stagnation in some countries. But this is not a criticism of communism, it's a criticism of one specific way of doing capitalism.

In a communist society where human labor is no longer regulated by capital, in the form of money, profit, wages, interest etc, the efficiency of processes is directly measured by the amount of labor time required for completion.

The incentive to increase production for its own sake doesn't exist, but rather society decides what to increase and not increase based on social needs without any constraints placed by capital. The incentive to innovate is always there as the desire to reduce labor time is everpresent. Furthermore, automation would rapidly increase as there is no longer any need to prevent unemployment. Wasteful and harmful industries would also be shut down, and there would be no "line must go up" necessity to maintain such industries as it exists in capitalism.

>>2835474
>So like when the economy is mostly owned and operated by a few families

The world's largest companies are publicly traded multinational corporations. They are controlled by global shareholders and managed by professional executives, not by a single or several founding families. Even though they exist, the money (both speculative and real) generated by these multinationals is greater than their size. If the world economy still limited on families, we would still be in the Early Modern Age.

>>2835477
>First of all none of the "socialist regimes" like USSR, Cuba, North Korea were/are actually socialist. In short they can be described as capitalism managed by the state with minimal internal competition

Socialism is the transitional phase between Capitalism and Communism. Or in this case, Vanguardism, since, as you said, these countries were not historical industrialized capitalist countries (Russia was one of the last European countries to ban Feudalism) and they rushed industrialization through a heavy bureaucracy that further delayed the socialist transition process.

>The incentive to increase production for its own sake doesn't exist, but rather society decides what to increase and not increase based on social needs without any constraints placed by capital. The incentive to innovate is always there as the desire to reduce labor time is everpresent. Furthermore, automation would rapidly increase as there is no longer any need to prevent unemployment. Wasteful and harmful industries would also be shut down, and there would be no "line must go up" necessity to maintain such industries as it exists in capitalism

If production were guided solely by social needs, socialist countries should have surpassed capitalist countries in consumer goods and material abundance, since they prioritized precisely those needs. In practice, however, they generally produced less and faced shortages more frequently, only being surpassed by other countries where there was no even and post-Neolithic serfdom such as those in Africa, though they had modern technology (guns), they still used it for Neolithic purposes (Slavery).(Rule 10)

Me when I rather die than actually read Marx

>Absence of competition produces absence of incentive for innovation.

you can safely ignore threads that offer baseless claims that the poster does not care to substantiate

>>2835456
>because he mistakenly
that's not how you do that.

>>2835477
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>>2835674
reminder that anyone that says USSR, PRC, DPRK were/are vanguards with capitalist modes of production, they outed themselves as never reading Lenin because socialism was defined as him as capitalism in the hands of the workers. This idea of "We need to make a socailist mode of production happen via press of a button" comes from people who have never read theory

>>2835456
<socialist regimes simply stagnate and need external intervention to maintain themselves
Bullshit, but nice tits I guess.

>>2835489
>In practice, however, they generally produced less and faced shortages more frequently, only being surpassed by other countries where there was no even and post-Neolithic serfdom such as those in Africa, though they had modern technology (guns), they still used it for Neolithic purposes (Slavery).
This is what coombrainrot does to your noggin. Produced less lol. Clearly you did not do research. They produced A LOT, but sold it as exports.