/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Im not asking for anyone's real name or anything. I'm just trying to figure out how this all works so I don't accidentally walk into something or get the wrong people in trouble.

Like, for example -

When someone says "beta test," is that code for a specific kind of action? And who typically signs off on something like that? Is there a person, or a committee, or is it just whoever shows up?

What's the usual way to verify someone before they get added to a more sensitive channel? do you guys still use signal? I've heard about background checks or requiring a referral from an existing member. Is that accurate?

Also, about the travel thing. People talk about moving between cities, crashing at certain spots, having support networks. Who manages those safe locations? Are they rented, owned by someone, or just squatted? And how does someone get referred to a place without risking exposure? what cities have the highest amount of these spots?

Again, not trying to be a cop or anything. I'm just someone who's been around a few actions and wants to be more plugged in without being stupid about it. I'm sure you guys have protocols to weed out feds, so if I'm asking too much just tell me to shut up. But if someone could point me toward a public reading group or a zine, any onion links, or encrypted channels the 3rd worldist alliance has would be great! im not asking to get into some secret committe i just want to see where you all congregate for online theory and what not. or something that explains the actual infrastructure of how this all holds together, that'd be great.

been reading here, tiktok, and more and I'm seeing a lot of unity talk "third worldist front," "anti-imperialist alliance," Juche + anarchism + Maoism all in one pot. But every scene has its fights. So I'm trying to understand another thing what are the actual disagreements that could crack this thing open, so we be aware of it and then can avoid division?

Like, I've heard whispers about

>>Some people think electoralism is a dead end, others think running candidates in local races (even as a joke) is a useful cover. Does that cause real splits?

>>What about the anarchist rejection of vanguardism vs. the Maoist insistence on a disciplined party? How do you square that without one side just pretending?

>>Also, the drug stuff. Some people are openly using meth, weed, LSD as "revolutionary medicine" and others say it's just addiction. Is that a fight in the scene or just personal choice?

>>And the Juche thing, is it actually a coherent ideology for non white americans or just a made up LARP? Because I've seen people leave groups over accusations of "North Korean apologism" vs. "anti-imperialist solidarity." Which side is winning?

again 'm not trying to start drama. I just want to know who's actually serious and who's going to implode when things get hard. If you were going to bet on one fault line that eventually makes these groups eat each other, what would it be? if we identify it, we can avoid it right?

>Juche/anarchist/Maoist scene
Those would be three different scenes, not that I have met any juche people IRL, I would honestly be uncomfortable messing with foreign state (NK) actors in any case because they have a very specific agenda and attract counter intelligence services.

To answer the title question in practice it's bad that to be disorganized but it's one of the least worse thing you can do against an overwhelming power and intelligence imbalance. It offers some flexibility and resistance to infiltration and is based on basic but solid ideological and cultural foundation that can't be easily subverted.

>>2838116
juche isnt real. its just a meme that's being spread on here by trolls using LLMs. they thought it would be hilarious if they could hoodwink anons on here into believing theres little juche sects apread around the US.

>>2838159
>>those would be three different sceneshose would be three different scenes

Thats whats confusing, why do we identify individuals and find people who can navigate between all 3? why would someone do this? why would someone be in an ML party, anarchist collectives, demsoc organizations, juche reading groups, anarchist reading groups, all at once unless they were like some foreign glowie looking to be tied into every american dissident movement? Yeah but i found out that they united under a code during occupy and they all signed off and distributed some point of solidarity between all on the revolutionary left this is basically what later became antifa.


> I would honestly be uncomfortable messing with foreign state (NK) actors in any case because they have a very specific agenda and attract counter intelligence services

You dont have to do that to get counter inteligence all you have to do is piss of the american federal government, people dont know how deep it is rigged against them. the army intelligence units and pentagon actively domestically spy on anarchists.


>>2838164

it might be a troll but how come there looks like theres so much truth to it? how come the doxxed individuals here actually lead me back to people who seem to be people who grift between anarchism, maoism and juche? its just a strange rabbit hole man. what about the warehouse poem that predicted the LA worker snapping a month before it happened? is this just coicidence or idk? is it actually possible north korea would have support for leftists in the usa or is that just a cia thing?

>>2838168

The arrest records, the death records, the grift between anarcho and juche all match a lot of the people these trolls post so im just wondering, even if this is a troll, what in the fuck is this schizo tendency?

>>2838164

and why do some of them seem different? the writing style sometimes appears as if they run spam bots here, then the writing style sometimes seems real and human? what about all the anti-juche posts? did anyone with juche tag themselves ever post in support of meth or violent rage or any of that? they seemed more subtle, but the conspiracy threads seemed like absolute trolls you are right. but how is so much niche truth buried into it? how are the names, the arrests, the deaths and the grifts all matching the troll? its strange. if the far right /pol/ was proven to be grounds for intelligence assets all over the globe, then the leftist version has to have some of its own, REAL, strange things too, right?

food for thought

the far right and cia backed anarchists and maoists during the years of lead, because theyre violence created a stronge reactionary base among citizens

quite possible anarchists,maoists, and jucheists arent a troll but a glow operation to employ a strategy of tension and make communists look like a shady force of hateful people