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The strong Sino-Israeli relationship should bury the illusions that many leftists have about the PRC’s purported socialism. With the transition to apolitical, business-first developmentalism during the Reform and Opening Up, the PRC decisively turned its back on the history of Third World solidarity and the Palestinian cause. The orientalist socialist fantasy and an excessive fixation on the past do not bring us closer to liberation but instead obscures the ongoing forms of collaboration that needs close scrutiny and unambiguous callout.

Why is it China’s job to liberate anyone?

>>2839937
What an ideologically loaded question.

>>2839938
Your western nation supplies far more war material to Israel than China does, quit projecting your failures onto China

Ahhhh yes the "China" problem, very important indeed

>With the transition to apolitical, business-first developmentalism during the Reform and Opening Up
That's still a million times better than using economics as a weapon to endure political and ideological compliance with the empire. China's foreign policy could be a lot better, but it could also be much, much worse.
>>2839937
Solidarity with progressive forces and oppressed people is a basic obligation of communist states I would say.

Hamas is not socialist. "Revolutionary" Iran has a home ownership rate of 60%, worse than even the US, UK and Canada. Even Venezuela which has a lower GDP and majority private sector economy has an 82% home ownership rate.

>>2839937
Not to get slowly strangled as the US slowly grinds your geopolitical allies to dust seems like a big deal to me but what i know i'm just a breznhevite after all…

>>2839937
it is everybody's job not to support the genocidal кiкe regime

>>2840072
If you're a mercenary, sure.

People keep framing the Israel/Palestine thing as "China vs. the West" or "China supports Paelstine" but that's lazy. Let's be real Israel isn't the one under real heat right now America is. The US is bleeding soft power, credibility, and money propping up a country that more of the world resents by the day. Israel's biggest strategic liability isn't Palestine, it's Washington. And China sees that clearly.

Israel's association with America will be its downfall if it doesn't pivot. Israeli intelligence is way smarter than most people give them credit for they know Netanyahu has got to go. He's turned Israel into a partisan U.S. talking point instead of a real geopolitical player. The long-term survival play for Israel isn't clinging to a declining empire it's diversifying.

China's plan is patient. Back a future Israeli government that's more socialist, more independent from U.S. financial and military structures, and more willing to actually negotiate. The disconnect from U.S. and white Western society is coming for Israel and it's the final disconnection. China wants to be the one standing there when that happens.

And before anyone types "but China hates Jews" no. China is pragmatic. They know radical Islam is horrible for global stability, trade routes, and their own Uyghur region policy. So they're not going to burn bridges with Israel, but they're also smart enough to help Palestinians get a better deal than what they have now, because endless conflict disrupts the Belt and Road.

I respect China way more than North Korea or Iran. North Korea and Iran are basically adventurists that got nukes and missiles and act like that alone makes them revolutionary. That's not real strategy, that's scary and bad for everyone. China plays chess. They're not looking for glory, they're looking for real outcomes, and this is why China is not only the most trusted partner for Israel's new future, but the most trusted leader to usher in the new approach to global markets and trade.

>>2840093
kys zionist cockroach

>>2840093
China isn't doing shit. It isn't a protagonist. It's scared to act on the world stage.

>>2840105

If you idiots had your way, China would just be another North Korea "we will destroy every imperialist settler with the press of one button, durrr, durrr, extremist this, extremist that." China would have nothing. No economy, no power, not even lights. People would still be using rickshaws and sleeping on cots. And you extreme leftists would love it, because you guys don't actually believe in anything. Your end goal is a state that destroys the economy and the will to have an economy, until society gets so forcibly collectivized that once all so called enemies fall, what's left? No government, no industry just beds, cots, land, trees, and some farms? Lol some life.

It's funny, because real communism's end goal is actually anti-civ, or at least no civilization as we know it. It's not just about sanctions alone lets be honest, sure sanctions hurt but communists, real communists, they don't produce commodities, and a society without commodities looks empty. China and Russia have faced sanctions before, but markets adapt and overcome. Cuba and the DPRK, on the other hand, were actually convinced that communism would lead straight to anarchist communism or "full communism" which is a pipe dream most leftists gave up on for good reason. The nations that don't give it up are hanging on by threads and can offer nothing to their own people let alone others.

>>2840118
Good, death to humanity death to civilization

>>2840120
>>kill everything and everyone

This is the 3rd worldist position, I'm aware.

>>2839931
It's not good but it's not as bad as the United States. China is at worst opportunist. Whereas the US is Israel's greatest supporter and the reason they're able to commit genocide with impunity. So the focus should be on the United States.

>>2840093
>They know radical Islam is horrible for global stability, trade routes, and their own Uyghur region policy. So they're not going to burn bridges with Israel
You don't understand anything about the 20th century and it shows.

>>2840118
Did you copypaste this from r/worldnews?

>>2840118
>extreeemist
stopped reading

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>>2840047
ok burger clean up your fucking house

>>2839931
China doesn't need to save anyone shityank

>>2839937
Because China is the counter-power to global imperialism. China being close to Israel is proof China doesn't give a shit about colonized peoples.

>>2840686
The colonized people need to get their shit together
China has to help them because they are to fuckin weak to stand up? Fuck that they owe nothing

>>2840699
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>>2840642
Yxll we people of yellow are tiiired of yxll yt ppl and yxll westoid demands lowkey

>>2840702
This but unironically

Palestinians should get it through their thick skulls that building apartheid infrastructure, trading resources and sharing dual use tech that facilitates their genocide is good because Chanya has red flag

Privileged ahh idealists don't want to be genocided for the people's capitalists


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