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Mass Immigration of low skilled workers is a right wing policy that the left has somehow been conned into thinking is left wing

This is not a post about immigration in general. Immigration of high skilled workers is a fantastic positive for the economy and the country. But millions of low/no skill immigrants with rights to bring their families over and end up as net negative contributors to the tune of ~£20,000 a year each to the taxpayer - and other issues detailed in a second - is the right wing business owners mega rich policy that the left should be staunchly against.

Classical mustache twirling right wing is basically 'for the rich at the expense of everyone else'. Importing low skilled immigration by the millions ends up; driving down wages for working class people and, more insidiously, the costs of anyone who doesn't work and relies on benefits etc is paid by the state and hence the taxpayer. (Not my view of the right by the way)


Taxes go up, benefits go down, health services get strained and cut, house prices go up, social housing runs out, the list goes on.


Who really wins?


Business owners - namely *big* business owners. Uber/deliveroo makes billions on paying a low wage to immigrants who will accept it and need help/topping up from the government that they simply would have to pay far more without.


Amazon the same.


You get the idea.


It's an *extremely* right wing policy for the rich at the literal £££ cost of the poorest most.


How has the left been psyoped into believing it's anything but this?

Edit: To be clear, the key point is that the left is, as a force, designed to be, loosely, in UK politics, in favor of working class and wealth redistribution and social support, arguably at the cost of growth, incentives and free market capitalism and sensible fiscal spending etc. that the right historically is for - it's an important to and fro of checks and balances.

So when the left, worker's side, comes with pro mass low skilled immigration with it, we're left with no worker's party. And, hence, well…look at what's happening to everyday people and cost of living, and inequality in the states exploding with the democrats being the prime example of this shows what I mean.

Also, right wing people tend not to be for mass immigration but the wealthy and governments sneaking it by when they can? Want to blame Blair for immigration issues? Non-Eu immigration 1997-2020 totals about 2m over almost 25yrs. Boris passed brexit and what did he do next? Brought in/set up the system which labour is now getting down (not a labour fan at all but they are at least getting it down) non-eu immigration over 5 years 2021-2025 of 6m net. Boris is a perfect example of moustache twirling betrayal of the people for the business owner class right wing I was mentioning. He should be tried and put in prison at best for what he did; no idea why he isn't reviled 10x more….

Blaire started the immigration push sure, but the current cultural and economic strain issues are overwhelmingly from the millions of low skilled, non-eu immigrants that Boris and boris alone ushered in. And brexit is not an excuse - just look at the totals and figures; he pulled a stunt and got away with it somehow.(Reactionary)

Thoughts?

>>2841353
>>2841355
All proletarians of the world must unite as one to abolish the State and Capital and everybody who stands in the way is an enemy. This means you.

>>2841366
>Sloganeering

>>2841381
Implying South Americans who keep voting in fascist are opposing imperialism

Noble savage myth

Based, agree with every word.
But the right and left are too stupid to understand this.
The former blame the immigrants themselves, while the latter see no problem at all.

>>2841373
>Immigration of high skilled workers is a fantastic positive for the economy and the country.
>the economy
>the country
Classcuck

>>2841431
LMAO keep coping. International mass migration is a strictly capitalist phenomenon.

>>2841450
Yeah because nation states are capitalist by essence

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>>2841388
>Implying South Americans who keep voting in fascist
no the CIA coups their governments and installs fascists, nice try faggot

>>2841353
immigration, automation, outsourcing, and imperialism are all inevitable and profitable under capitalism, so you must end capitalism

>>2841353
>thoughts
every sympathetic worker is going to view this kind of rhetoric as a justification of the nativist fascist tendency. I love all the cunts I've worked shitty jobs wit, especially the lads from overseas.

>conned

these "low skilled" workers are still workers, they have been displaced by capitalist and imperialist forces. if you oppose exploitation then unionise these people so they can't be used as scabs and end the imperial efforts to disrupt their states and economies so they can develop their own states rather than being forced to leave their families for the imperial core.

>>2841353
>end up as net negative contributors to the tune of ~£20,000 a year each to the taxpayer
polyp bait, this is simply false.
More people working is always good for the economy and for the state finances. Its simply not good for other workers in direct competition, but largely migrants take harsh low pay jobs that the locals wouldnt even touch.
The problem is precisely that their status as underclass easily threatened by deportation and satisfied with lower wage, which is solved by giving them more rights and legal protections while cracking down hard on the employers exploiting undocumented labor, which despite their rhetoric, the right never does (they usually barely even touch actual immigration/deportation numbers, just make a lot of noise about it), they just make them even more precarious for easier exploitation and to satisfy their innate racist cruelty.

>Immigration of high skilled workers is a fantastic positive

its called brain drain and is imperialist exploitation of the poorer countries. They bore the cost of raising and educating them, and then the highly skilled just fuck off rather than help build the country. Its awful.

>left has somehow been conned into thinking

liberals are not "the left". Most of "the left" is not for open borders or mass immigration, but they're against oppression of the migrant underclass, because they recognize its inhumane, and is solely to the benefit of the porkies. Any leftist anti immigration focus would target the business owners almost exclusively.

now kys polyp

>the left is designed to be in favor of working class and wealth redistribution and social support, arguably at the cost of growth, incentives and free market capitalism and sensible fiscal spending etc. that the right historically is for - it's an important to and fro of checks and balances.

No. This is such a joke it’s hilarious, it’s the case in the United States that every “fiscally responsible” conservative administration has ballooned the debt, while most “socialist” democrats have worked to decrease the deficit. I can’t speak as much to British politics, but I know you’ve had tories in office for the last decade and a half and you’ll likely get even further right with farage in the next election. Stop worrying about where your neighbors are from and start worrying about who’s stealing from you. Jobs aren’t a natural resource, and when wealth inequality is as high as it is they should be in immediate supply but they aren’t because the rich benefit from straining the system more. Kill all capitalist swine.

This rests on the dumb idea that we should judge wages by the peak amount paid to individuals rather than the met amount paid to the working class.
e.g. if you fire a 40k/year first worlder and hire 2 20k/year immigrants, the net effect on wages as a whole is 0. the position that it's better for those 2 immigrants to wallow and Indeed starve in the third world than be paid ten times as much in the third world is a nativist one, not a communist one.

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>>2841353
Bermuda is a no law enforcement tax haven for insurance companies, scammers and gamblers. It is primarily used by New York companies. They do not intend to pay anyone out. Companies love it! Within boat range of New York.

>Mass Immigration of low skilled workers is a right wing policy that the left has somehow been conned into thinking is left wing

not a single leftist has ever advocated for such a position this thread is pure garbage because it's once again conflating liberal bourgeois policy with leftism. this thread should be deleted/

Trvke

>>2841464
South Americans are consistently voting in fascist currently. There are countless examples

>>2841565
Open borders is a central leftist tenet my friend. No humans is illegal.

>>2841353
you make a good point, we need socialism but that prioritizes the interests of the nation's workers, a kind of "national socialism" if you will.

wait a minute..

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>>2841560
Continuing on, there is another principality in that are which has a similar building structure that serves up the same structure.

There is many tax havens in this area serving groups of scammers.

If Cayman Islands and Bermuda are used by scammers and insurance, what other islands in that vicinity will be used by corporate frauds as a primary safe haven?

>>2841353
It's politically convenient to have the possibility of communists and trade unionists slipping in through mass immigration.

Rich people are brooding and settling down with their families in the Cayman islands.

>>2841569
The term "open borders" is a fascist psyop meant to stoke fears of "the other". There is no such thing as "borders" to begin with because the entire concept of the nation-state is a liberal construct. Socialism is not "pro-open borders", it outright rejects the false concept of "borders" to begin with.

>>2841569
op specifically said mass migrations of low skilled workers, which is quite a different thing than allowing free movement between borders. free movement between socialist nations is one thing, but allowing capitalists access to cheaper and more exploitable slave labor held hostage under threat of deportation, imprisonment, and the stripping away of residency/citizenship is quite another thing. the only possible way leftists could support open borders if if citizenship were free and easy, or if the rights of immigrants were upheld regardless of their status. obviously, such a thing would never happen in capitalist countries because it takes away all the benefits of the aforementioned slave labor. to say that leftists support policies that harm the conditions of the working class is the very definition of trolling.

>>2841594
Large groups of low skilled immigrants freely decide to come here to try and work to benefit their families and our society. They aren’t being forced onto areas, they’re being allowed to move there. Please explain to me how mass migration is not free movement between borders.

>>2841592
Borders don’t define nations. My state, county, and city all border other states counties and cities. I feel like we’re arguing over semantics because borders in my eyes are only used to divide up administrative regions.

>>2841598
Yeah the pull factor is higher wages, they are worse off than the locals who have more rights, political representation etc but they are more often than not earning way more than they would have in their original country

>>2841604
The solution is to give them the same workers protections that Americans have, maybe even Europeans.

>>2841491
>if you oppose exploitation then unionise these people so they can't be used as scabs and end the imperial efforts to disrupt their states and economies so they can develop their own states rather than being forced to leave their families for the imperial core

not allowing them into the country is also a preferable method

>>2841508
>largely migrants take harsh low pay jobs that the locals wouldnt even touch
migrants are the reason they stay low paying
>h is solved by giving them more rights and legal protections while cracking down hard on the employers exploiting undocumented labor, which despite their rhetoric
its also solved by deportations and stricter immigration controls

>>2841609
No it’s a racist, expensive, authoritarian method. Most countries are desperately trying to maintain domestic birth rates, America should consider itself blessed to be such an immigrant destination and to have built up its “shining city on a hill” reputation. It’s what will save us from future depression if we capitalize on it right. These people are valuable Americans.

>>2841610
>migrants are the reason they stay low paying
If you want to be a reformist shitlib might as well just get papers for everyone raise the minimum wage and imprison exploiters. I agree that highly skilled workers should be deported to the south though but even the locals, this is how we stop uneven development

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>>2841598
>Large groups of low skilled immigrants freely decide to come here to try and work to benefit their families and our society. They aren’t being forced onto areas, they’re being allowed to move there. Please explain to me how mass migration is not free movement between borders.

Why don't you try thinking about the reason those workers are moving to the imperial core in the first place?

>>2841624
Because of Americas several genocides and every major corporations rapacious exploitation of the third world. The trick is to give them rights in their own communities AND the opportunity to come here and participate in society.

If you are a real leftist then the destruction of western states should be your number 1 priority. That includes any white paranoid fear of "white genocide".

White supremacy is capitalisms most dangerous weapon. Every non white knows this, only white "leftists" for some reason do not.

>>2841353
Friedrich Engels observed that the influx of Irish workers into 19th-century England pressured wages downward and created deep-seated divisions within the working class. Marx and Engels argued this created a "divided proletariat" exploited by the bourgeoisie, prompting the view that Irish liberation was essential for English social revolution. Read more in the Marxists Internet Archive.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htm

Letters of Karl Marx 1870

Marx to Sigfrid Meyer and August Vogt
In New York
Source: Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels Selected correspondence Progress Publishers, 1975, pp. 220-224;
Written: 9 April 1870;
Transcribed: Rick Kuhn.

London, April 9, 1870
… The day after tomorrow (April 11) I shall send you whatever documents of the International I happen to have on hand. (It is too late to mail them today.) I shall likewise send some more of the Basle [reports].[a]

Among the material sent you will also find several copies of the resolutions of the General Council of November 30 on the Irish amnesty, resolutions which you already know and which were initiated by me; likewise an Irish pamphlet on the treatment of the Fenian convicts.

I had intended to submit further motions on the necessary transformation of the present Union (i.e., enslavement of Ireland into a free and equal federation with Great Britain. For the time being, further progress in this matter, as far as public resolutions go, has been suspended because of my enforced absence from the General Council. No other member of it has sufficient knowledge of Irish affairs and adequate prestige with the English members to be able to replace me in this respect.

However time has not been wasted and I ask you to pay particular attention to the following:

After studying the Irish question for many years I have come to the conclusion that the decisive blow against the English ruling classes (and it will be decisive for the workers’ movement all over the world) cannot be delivered in England but only in Ireland.

On January 1, 1870,[b] the General Council issued a confidential circulare drawn up by me in French (for only the French journals, not the German ones produce important repercussions in England) on the relation of the Irish national struggle to the emancipation of the working class, and therefore on the attitude which the International Association should take towards the Irish question.

I shall give you here only quite briefly the salient points.

Ireland is the bulwark of the English landed aristocracy. The exploitation of that country is not only one of the main sources of their material wealth; it is their greatest moral strength. They, in fact, represent the domination over Ireland. Ireland is therefore the cardinal means by which the English aristocracy maintain their domination in England itself.

If, on the other hand, the English army and police were to be withdrawn from Ireland tomorrow, you would at once have an agrarian revolution in Ireland. But the downfall of the English aristocracy in Ireland implies and has as a necessary consequence its downfall in England. And this would provide the preliminary condition for the proletarian revolution in England. The destruction of the English landed aristocracy in Ireland is an infinitely easier operation than in England herself, because in Ireland the land question has been up to now the exclusive form of the social question because it is a question of existence, of life and death, for the immense majority of the Irish people, and because it is at the same time inseparable from the national question. Quite apart from the fact that the Irish character is more passionate and revolutionary than that of the English.

As for the English bourgeoisie, it has in the first place a common interest with the English aristocracy in turning Ireland into mere pasture land which provides the English market with meat and wool at the cheapest possible prices. It is likewise interested in reducing the Irish population by eviction and forcible emigration, to such a small number that English capital (capital invested in land leased for farming) can function there with “security”. It has the same interest in clearing the estates of Ireland as it had in the clearing of the agricultural districts of England and Scotland. The £6,000-10,000 absentee-landlord and other Irish revenues which at present flow annually to London have also to be taken into account.

But the English bourgeoisie has also much more important interests in the present economy of Ireland. Owing to the constantly increasing concentration of leaseholds, Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labour market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.

And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.

But the evil does not stop here. It continues across the ocean. The antagonism between Englishmen and Irishmen is the hidden basis of the conflict between the United States and England. It makes any honest and serious co-operation between the working classes of the two countries impossible. It enables the governments of both countries, whenever they think fit, to break the edge off the social conflict by their mutual bullying, and, in case of need, by war between the two countries.

England, the metropolis of capital, the power which has up to now ruled the world market, is at present the most important country for the workers’ revolution, and moreover the only country in which the material conditions for this revolution have reached a certain degree of maturity. It is consequently the most important object of the International Working Men’s Association to hasten the social revolution in England. The sole means of hastening it is to make Ireland independent. Hence it is the task of the International everywhere to put the conflict between England and Ireland in the foreground, and everywhere to side openly with Ireland. It is the special task of the Central Council in London to make the English workers realise that for them the national emancipation of Ireland is not a question of abstract justice or humanitarian sentiment but the first condition of their own social emancipation.

These are roughly the main points of the circular letter, which thus at the same time give the raisons d’étre of the resolutions passed by the Central Council on the Irish amnesty. A little later I sent a strongly-worded anonymous article[d] on the treatment of the Fenians by the English, etc., attacking Gladstone, etc., to the Internationale (organ of our Belgian Central Committee[e] in Brussels). In this article I have also denounced the French Republicans (the Marseillaise had printed some nonsense on Ireland written here by the wretched Talandier) because in their national egoism they are saving all their wrath for the Empire.

That worked. My daughter Jenny wrote a series of articles to the Marseillaise, signing them J. Williams (she had called herself Jenny Williams in her private letter to the editorial board) and published, among other things, O’Donovan Rossa’s letter. Hence immense noise.

After many years of cynical refusal Gladstone was thereby finally compelled to agree to a parliamentary enquiry into the treatment of the Fenian prisoners. Jenny is now the regular correspondent on Irish affairs for the Marseillaise. (This is naturally to be a secret between us.) The British Government and press are furious because the Irish question has thus now been placed on the agenda in France and that these rogues are now being watched and exposed via Paris on the whole Continent.

We hit another bird with the same stone, we have forced the Irish leaders, journalists, etc., in Dublin to get into contact with us, which the General Council had been unable to achieve previously!

You have wide field in America for work along the same lines. A coalition of the German workers with the Irish workers (and of course also with the English and American workers who are prepared to accede to it) is the greatest achievement you could bring about now. This must be done in the name of the International. The social significance of the Irish question must be made clear.

Next time a few remarks dealing particularly with the position of the English workers.

Greetings and fraternity!
Karl Marx

Notes
a The reference is to the reports of the Basle Congress of the First International published by the General Council.—Ed.

b Marx wrote: “December 1, 1869”, apparently a slip of the pen.—Ed.

c Karl Marx, “Le Conseil Général au Conseil Fédéral de la Suisse Romande” (“The General Council to the Federal Council of Romance Switzerland”).— Ed.

d “Le gouvernement anglais et les prisonniers fénians” (“The English Government and the Fenian Prisoners”) published on February 27, 1870.—Ed.

e Marx is referring to the Belgian Federal Council.—Ed.



Marx and Engels On Ireland
1870 Letters | Marx/Engels Archive

>>2841598
>Borders don’t define nations
Borders define states, aka a monopoly of force in a given territory to prevent class struggle, within which nations exist. In our current world model, the nation and the state exist in symbiosis, hence the term nation-state - the formal term for "country".

>>2841613
>No it’s a racist, expensive, authoritarian method
and its effective
> America should consider itself blessed to be such an immigrant destination and to have built up its “shining city on a hill” reputation. It’s what will save us from future depression if we capitalize on it right. These people are valuable Americans.
.t white upper middle class suburbanite that doesn't have to leave around illegals

>>2841650
“Illegals” commit less crime, work more, start more businesses, pay more taxes and take less in welfare than native-born Americans on average.
>you’ve never had to live around illegals
I don’t care about the legal status of the people I know who are immigrants, I honestly have no idea if any acquaintances in my locality are “illegal” or “legal”. Border crimes are stupid, unnecessary, and overpoliced. Making entry illegal is not effective at increasing wages, lowering unemployment, or solving government debts, it’s just draconian.

Trvke

>>2841674
>>2841683
It’s not incorrect, it’s just that the issue with the “mass immigration” that early capitalist economies undertook was that they were enslaved.

>>2841637
But natlib is antihistorical now, whatever that means.

Kys

>>2841666
>“Illegals” commit less crime, work more, start more businesses, pay more taxes and take less in welfare than native-born Americans on average.
I don't really care
>I don’t care about the legal status of the people I know who are immigrants
I do.
>I honestly have no idea if any acquaintances in my locality are “illegal” or “legal”. Border crimes are stupid, unnecessary, and overpoliced.
"it hurts my feelings" as an argument lmao.
> Making entry illegal is not effective at increasing wages, lowering unemployment, or solving government debts, it’s just draconian.
Importing third worlders just imports third world problems

>>2841754
You have to be ragebaiting if you’re unironically just saying that third world countries are poor because they’re brown and not because they were colonies. This level of historical revisionism is sub-0 autism score

>>2841757
can you not read? I never said why they are poor

>>2841674
Nah. It was international shipping.

daily reminder that Britain didn't have border controls until 1905 and the US became the most powerful country on earth via a liberal immigration policy.

>>2841777
British Empire invented passports just to keep Rakesh and Pajeet from mating pressing white women though

>>2841777
at times the countries needed immigrants, not so much anymore

mass migration levels the value of labour power and is therefore historically progressive, chud

>>2841800
its a tool used by the ruling class to lower wages and bulster the reserve army of labor

>>2841812
>its a tool used by the ruling class to lower wages
it raises wages for the migrants
>bolster the reserve army of labor
not in the migrants' home countries it don't
an absolute reserve army of labor only exists as long as the peasantry is being dispossessed. after that there can only be a relative reserve army of labor

>>2841761
Than what “third world problem” do you fear spreading to the first world?
>>2841764
You are a racist jerkoff and I suggest you buy a book and try reading or opt for a strong rope and stepladder.

>>2841824
>You are a racist jerkoff and I suggest you buy a book and try reading
Why is that always the go-to insult? FYI almost any author of note prior to 1960, even the leftist ones, was a massive sexist, racist, bigot, etc. compared to people nowadays.

>>2841754
Suck start a shotgun, fascist pig

>>2841844
>even the leftist ones were sexiest, racist, bigot etc.
Then they weren’t very good “leftists” nd should not be considered an acceptable standard. There have always been abolitionists, there have always been those fighting for and those fighting against basic rights for every human. This is not a recent phenomenon and your insinuation just begets how bad faith your argument really is. You’re the flat earthers of anthropology, you see a continent like Africa plagued by crime poverty and corruption, and you say “well that must just be how the races are” instead of thinking past the horizon. Yes I called you a racist. It’s my go-to “insult” for anyone saying racist shit like Africans aren’t civilized.

>>2842039
>Then they weren’t very good “leftists”
Does it bother you at all that basically 99.99% of historical figures, even the ones from your own camp all fall outside your fringe view of morals that were adopted like, yesterday?
>You’re the flat earthers of anthropology
Insane projection from the guy denying divergent evolution
>a continent like Africa plagued by crime poverty and corruption
>and you say “well that must just be how the races are”
It's "plagued" by that because it's inhabitants are inherently incapable of improvement. There used to be snakes in the woods for my ancestors. There used to be nuclear war in Japan or grand genocides in China. People capable of greatness survive and flourish despite those adversities. Never have the africans came close to that, because they simply didn't evolve enough to reach that higher level of existence.
>thinking past the horizon.
You aren't thinking past anything. You just cling to "poverty" and vague notions of "oppression" or "historical materialism" or "racism" as a one-size-fits-all dismissal for why every single instance in human history of collective african civilzation ends up in failure but it's never, ever their fault.

>>2841815
>it raises wages for the migrants
it lowers wages for the proletariat
>not in the migrants' home countries it don't
I don't really care about their country.

>>2841824
>Than what “third world problem” do you fear spreading to the first world?
crime, homelessness, drugs

>>2841940
someone's mad lmao

>>2842039
Sub Saharan Africa was uncivilized even before contact with Europeans

>>2842065
>it lowers wages for the proletariat
do you think the proletariat exists in one country alone?
>I don't really care about their country.
and there it is

>>2842125
>we expect you to support policies that lower your labour power as well as your quality of life
>we expect you to care about countries you have zero relation to just as much if not moreso than your own
>you are a bad person if you don't do this
Why?

>>2842054
>99.99% of historical figures
99.99% of future world leaders will likely continue to fall outside of it. Now is not special, we are just as medieval as ever, but morality is a constant. Believe in it and violently rebel against all its violations then now and later.

>Divergent evolution

Go back to 4chan shitstain. If you can’t even see us as biologically the same species than nothing i can ever say philosophically will convince you of what moral or not. This just isn’t the place for reactionaries ignorant of history.

>>2842066
>”drugs” is a third world problem
lol no, drug production causes problems in the third world, but the demand for it is all western baby. You’re just being racist and associating scary foreign concepts with scary foreign people again, it betrays low eye-queue score.

>>2842198
do you think history stands still for you?

>>2842366
crime stats are public kid, the rates of third worlder drug crime is much greater then the average westerner

>>2842125
>do you think the proletariat exists in one country alone?
I'm more concerned with the proletariat in my country then the proletariat of the global south out of my own rational self interest
>and there it is
glad you don't like it

>>2842125
>>I don't really care about their country.
>and there it is
moralfag

>>2842462
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/drug-use-by-country
Top 5 countries for drug use per capita 2026
>United States
>Canada
>Australia
>New Zealand
>UK

>>2842534
now break it down by ethnicity

>>2842548
I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to be racist. Are black southerners in the USA “third worlders”?

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>>2842551
Drink bleach swine

>>2842549
I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to be ignore the elephant in the room


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