Watched a movie called People's Emergency Briefing. The movie suggets that Members of the Parlament in the UK could be pressured enough to bring the subject of Climate Change to the front and start real change. Do you guys think this is possible, at least in the UK?
It seems renewable energies are getting much cheaper, so capitalisms might be tempted to transition. Batteries being harmful to the environment is oil propaganda, or so I was told.
Perhaps solving climate change doesnt requires a revolution? It might be solvable throguh the market and the State.
idk man. liberal democracies tend to just be dictatorships of the bourgeoisie/political class that will gun people down in the streets. If the proletariat starts killing those MPs then it's moot (who then 'starts real change'?) . So, highly doubtful, plus, kind of a nonsequitor on a 'left' forum: revolution is not really a question.
So true!
>>2843182The question matters because if the deadline for the revolution can be extended then it's a win for everyone.
The thing is the state does have the power to enforce an energetic transition, even if it contradicts capitalist interests
>>2843176I could see a massive enough crisis compelling the national bourgeoisie to establish the equivalent of a Marxist-Leninist government. i.e. an autarkic developmental state ruled by a single party via the military and police.
>>2843176A democratically elected representative standing up to the oil companies is a form of revolution in my eyes. It only works if they actually wrest power from them though.
>>2843199Won't that policitian be seduced by money? Will they be elected in the first place?
>>2843199the problem with that is that even if you have a popular mandate or manage to establish a dotp via a smashing of the old state, you're going to be structurally incapable of doing so effectively. unless you invent a source of massive economic growth you can take a chunk of and reinvest in green energy with all the infrastructure and unprofitable investment that would take. the uk is barely holding onto its welfare state, and it would end up getting taken hostage like greece if the policy of the government ran against its creditors, which is all the rich people you'd need to take wealth and income from to fund expensive things like a full green transition. i think the earliest we would get climate action and international cooperation on it from capitalist governments on a world scale is when it becomes politically justified by an immediate threat to the integrity of the capitalist system as a whole by threatening to make economic activity uninsurable