WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition
>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.
>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.
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>>2653642
The worst part about these hubs is that the EU agencies governing them will lack any transparency, on the top of the fact that they’ll likely be used as detainment centres for dissidents in Europe. I mean, think about it, for years free speech has meant nothing in the EU with neither the right nor left of capital willing to defend it, and now you’ve got mainstream parties supporting re-militarisation.
I don’t think this bodes well for us, as historically many repressive measures have been trial-marshalled onto marginal groups whose mistreatment wouldn’t lead to societal rebellion, case in point immigrants.
Who is to say that these measures won’t be expanded to include dissenters?
IMO, this might signal a desperate start by the capitalist class to keep the EU on power by both implementing a fascist dictatorship and trying to survive via expansionist wars in the global south.
>>2843260Power that be are already arbitrarily fascistic. In France they take 6-10 months to deliver a visa an immigrant is legally entitled to while furnishing temporary papers that make you unable to work for most of the year, horror stories happen in detainment centers too, basically chuds are already dogwalking the justice system and the rule of law for the marginalized, and now they are clamping down on the rare orgs that fight back like the human rights league.
Materialist explanation for the worldwide pushback against immigration?
Shoot your local ICE agent.
>>2843313>>2843311 (me)
And yet, proletarians in both the United States and Europe are both obsessed with mass deportations. Why?
>>2843316Because they’re a scapegoat for crime and crime is a scapegoat for all economic woes. Normies in the west are privileged and stupid, they just need to be told 12 hours a day 7 days a week on nightly news that a black/brown person killed a child or expectant mother or aspiring student and use it as reactionary justification for the systemic criminalization of foreigners as a group.
>>2843313You wont do shit
>>2843311trial run for mass genocide on a global scale
not even kidding, haute porky is gearing up to exterminate double digits percent of the population and this is happening worldwide, AI is on the more visible side of this plan; they admit it themselves openly and in public "only the 1% will matter"
>>2843443What is next mode of production?
>>2843447fully automated luxury anarcho-digital barbarism with thiel-libertarian characteristics :^)
tbf anon idk and I won't be there anyways, some other economically literate anon should respond to that, I've been reduced to observing what these "people" are saying and doing and connecting the dots like a subhuman conspiratard
>>2843265I foresee the beginnings of an European Kalafah-style system being implemented in the future to both quell European tribalism and to meet the labor needs of the EU, considering how few Euros want to breed which would require either doing away with feminism or get Israeli-style siege mentality and nastiness to reverse. Even so, I see few natalists ever grapple with the question that a high TFR might be worst than mass immigration in terms of lowering wages, especially given how events are going in the elites’ lockstep.
>>2843447Scavenging in a world with a climate that destroyed most of the infrastructure.
>>2843311Small capitalist anxiety
Refugees are the 21st century Ostjuden. Hopefully no genocide this time.
>>2843254It’s interesting how the economic benefit of migrants is entirely ignored and they are treated as inherently criminal parasites Europeans benevolently let into their aging countries. Not surprised it’s a German term. Especially Germans are delusional and far up their own ass like that.
>>2843528Its time for damage control now that multiculture has been established. Rightoids need to be managed so they dont chimp out.
>>2843311When things are going to shit, you either change the system or use scapegoats. Obvisouly capitalists won't abolish themselves so scapegoating it is.
Focusing on persecuting the Other will buy time. They'll find something else once white people figure their lives are still shitty without brown people around.
To be honest, sending them back is merciful, they will be safer in their homelands. Europe is remilitarizing while deindustrializing. I forsee another Great European Chimpout, probably the last one there will ever be.
>>2843549It's not just the brown people that get euros riled up. Polacks hate Ukrainians, British and Germans hate(d) Polacks. The reason its a problem is because the quantity of migrants brought about by war and poverty leads to ghettoization and an inability to integrate quickly. Nobody seems to have a Marxist solution to the problem because the Marxist left is dead pretty much everywhere and the people that are left can't think of anything but massive socialdemocratic state-funded projects (won't be allowed by bond markets because TPD must continue) or barbarism and concentration camps for migrants. This state of affairs will continue until socialist sects consolidate into parties and come up with an international strategy for organizing that doesn't rely on simply getting elected in their country and starting massive state projects.
>>2843555>Polacks hate UkrainiansNot just Poles, the Czechs hate the hohols too, just like Slovaks and Hungarians and Romanians hate each other, and the Balkanoids can’t stand one another. The lack of POCs is why even the PiS had to pivot from low-brow Islamophobia to the gay panic and pro-life activism: The problems of immigration in Western Europe were too abstract for normie Polacks to deeply care enough to vote for PiS, so the tradcaths had to shift focus on the gay panic since that’s the most divisive issue in Eastern Europe to date.
Honestly, the EU would have accelerated its collapse if it didn’t support Ukraine both morally and militarily and economically. Basically, Ukraine is the lightning rod for pan-European sentiment. If Russia wins, pan-Europeanism would either collapse or be re-directed towards reactionary sentiment such as imperialism and jingoism, made worse by how Europeans in general lack the ability of introspection. This is why the performative enlightened humanism of Eurocrats feels shallow: The average Euro would blame anyone but themselves for any problem before considering if the issue is from within instead of being caused by Russians/Muslims/Africans.
EU wants that piece of the human trafficking pie lmao
>>2843316Because they aren't, it's by large rightoid propagabda hyping up their numbers and the media presenting the right as the only option against the dying liberal order.
Why is this causing so much liberal seethe here?
>>2843577Mostly because it’s happening in the context of the EU pushing for re-militarisation and mass surveillance, so having these detention centres on European soil is seen among us here as a test run for indefinite detention of European citizens for presumably political dissent in the future, with full detainment in other countries.
There’s also the fact that, as global capital is being threatened whilst the Ukrainian theatre of NATO war is stalling, we’ll see more jingoism pushed by centrist and rightist parties aimed at useless imperialistic wars for resource extractions in the global south.
It’s not breaking science, it’s just a fact that repressive measures are trial-marshalled first upon marginalised groups before escalating further. Normalisation precedes hard force when the state wants to implement repression, especially against leftists and labor activists.
>>2843559WTF are you blabbering? Despite all the whining about censorship and political repression in Russia by Eurocrats, the same thing exists to a much more pervasive extent in the EU.
>>2843535new law is only going to apply to the ones that are in fact criminal parasites, no one's going to get rid of net positives
So, first EU state to put muslim citizens in camps? I bet France
>>2843260You vvill be sent off to an Italian concentration camp in Albania and you vvill enjoy it.
>>2843633FVCK, it’ll be a Déjà vu of ᴉuᴉlossnW
>>2843560damn, thats a good analysis. unexpected considering its the yurop thread. its literally over for us tbh
>>2843577We view people as equal regardless which side of a fence they were born on. You should stop viewing malicious cruelty as a status symbol.
>>2843612>parasitesMoralist and lib
>>2843962that sounds like something someone from the wrong side of a fence would say
>>2843893They're not taking fake refugees from different races, that's the difference
>>2843577Can we throw you out toothen?
>>2844239Complaining about bourgeoisie being useless parasites feeding off worker labor is liberalism?
>>2844287Well there only so much China can do with one machine and no expert maintenance, it'll simply help them build their own down the line but that's still 5-10 years away.
>>2844292what separates the west from china is tech innovation, not talent. retard
>5-10 years awaymore like 1-2
>>2844295You're an ignorant imbecile if you think you can build all the manufacturing base you need for a euv machine factory in such a short time even if all the science is mastered. I'd be happy to be proved wrong but I won't because solving all sorts of engineering problems to build the most complex machine on earth just takes time even if you throw millions of smart people at it.
>>2844286No capitalist is going to the rehub camps
>>2844300Plus it’s a gamble since it’s essentially a long-term project that won’t bring profits immediately. That’s why even in the west most industries are rarely built anew. In fact much of the infrastructure in Europe is already 4-5 decades old.
People don’t get that it takes time, perseverance, and willingness to incur heavy costs for such projects to succeed.
>>2844300>solving all sorts of engineering problems you seem to not realize china can simply reverse engineer the machine they just smuggled in. all the time and money spent in the west on R&D is kinda wasted now that china has the engineering answers already. China is already the manufacturing capital of the world so its insane euroid cope to say that don't have whats necessary to build these machines now that americas tech monopoly has been broken
migrants do not want to go to europe
a communist who is not anti-EU is no communist at all
>>2843250I hate being brown because I see shit like this on the crakkker side, and on our side I see "we're the master race too" gusano shit like we're exempt somehow.
>>2844590Anne is not a brown name. You are a cracker.
>>2845057hebrew origin so as brown as it gets
>>2848396The televised deaths of dictators
>>2848572>>2848571reminder that if you meet someone from frontex you are obliged to beat him in a comatose pulp
>>2848571it's for adults, the language is for kids because the expectation is brown people are retarded
that's good bants, when you meet someone from frontex remember to high five them
>>2848659It literally says children version you retard
>>2848572>>2848571EU is not beating the allegations of caring more about procedure and politeness above all else. "Getting sent back to a place you've never been, for kids!"
>>2849905Air conditioning units are very loud on the outside. Running one at night will likely wake up the whole neigborhood, since nearly everyone else will sleep with open windows.
>>2849905Too expensive, and was not really needed in the past, plus it just makes the climate problem worse for everyone, but obviously that's a moot point now since we failed to deal with climate change and nobody cares
>>2848573"Frontex" sounds so fascist lol, what's up with that name
>>2843254Yeah Eu economies are kaput and domestic army of the unemployed is growing that they need the desperate foreign workers as much. Also the liberal centers now see the anti immigration "new right" as more and more as a threat.
>>2843311Turns out people don’t like their quaint little towns being flooded with feral MUTUMBOs who don’t work, scam welfare sell drugs and rape every woman between 8 and 80s. Even the self hating liberals are going full Nazi mode once you get a few drinks in them. Our time is coming.
>>2849719she kinda cute honestly
>>2851148>towns being flooded with feral MUTUMBOs who don’t work, scam welfare sell drugs and rape every woman between 8 and 80s. Based they should reap more of what was sown. Europeans are a cancer upon the biosphere.
Sure was a hot one today lads
>>2849953>>2848660Remember to high five them with a mace on your hand
>>2851297Funny thing is that, if so-called “race science” was real, then they would be 100% justified in taking welfare, on the top of affirmative action and DEI being justified too. I mean, you never see these chuds ever question gender quotas despite biological differences between males and females being greater than that between ethnicities save for extreme examples like the Congolese pygmies.
Then again, the average chud is just a shitlib so don’t expect consistency from them.
>>2854630Why even go on twitter any more, it's just everyone trying to bait everyone all the time
>>2854642
probably has to do with the fact that bitcoin has been steadily going down for the last year or so
Chat control is back on the menu, BlackRock/Germany is trying to pass the mass surveilance Chat Control law again
https://xcancel.com/NXT4EU/status/2073705522281292218Partial victory with a catch: EU Parliament temporarily defies chat control
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Partial-victory-with-a-catch-EU-Parliament-temporarily-defies-chat-control-11349760.html
> According to information from negotiation circles, the German federal government is among the driving forces behind this attempt. The statements by leading politicians from the SPD and CDU that indiscriminate chat control is taboo thus threaten to become completely irrelevant.>>2859958It passed lmao, despite most MEPs voting against but you needed 2/3 majority to vote no because it was an "emergency bill". Companies again have a carte blanche to legally spy on you, majority of them being American, so anyne who says the EU is some anti-American force is an idiot, the NSA is cumming at this moment.
This is the vaunted EU democracy btw. Remember that the EU is not your friend and anyone who defends it is a moron who does not understand what it is, an international organization representing the interests of capital.
>>2866769Reminder that the trend of all modern population growth projections is that they are always revised lower over time because the birth rate keeps going down.
>>2866769Wow, by 2100 the US might have a bigger population than the entire European Union, crazy.
>>2866862when the USSR fell italy had the 4th largest gdp. wtf happened?
>>2866560As an American I find if odd how the UK is more unstable than the US.
>>2866871>As an American I find if odd how the UK is more unstable than the US.all of europe is like that tbh
>>2866865The PCI dissolved, Mani Pulite destryed our shitty (but with some vision) political class, which was replaced by Berlusconi and the like. The modern parties have absolutely no vision for the future, they're barely able to plan for the coming month; and they're have been stripping the foundations of the country to make their friends richer ever since.
Our political system has been stumbling in complete confusion for the past 30 years as the capitalists strip the country apart.
The american left is much more organized and has much better chances of being politically influent, I'd say.
Our political clasd is so stupid, shortsighted and incompetent they make the EU look great.
>>2866921This is true of most yurop countries though, mine included
>>2866921I see, not ideal. if its any consolation to my cousins across the Atlantic I consider americas ability to adapt to this new political environment a bad sign for the left here. maybe this is a grass-is-greener opinion to have but ive been considering there to be more revolutionary potential in europe because the political class there generally is either unable or unwilling to adapt away from the U.N liberal international order they all believe in
>>2866931But they can't even buy AR-15s, how are they ever going to stage a revolution?
>>2866926Which one? At least germany and the north-east have seen economic growth in the same period
>>2866946not czech, it was the slovakian pm. mb
>>2866946>euro politicians aren't used to any of that which is exploitableThat's not really true, it's become more and more common over the years.
Regardless, it's a meaningless thing to do and you waste your life.
>>2866948>Regardless, it's a meaningless thing to do and you waste your life.what, murder politicians? revolutionaries should be above that I agree, still weapons are necessary for other purposes. appropriation, intimidation, etc
>>2867879"sovereign europe"
is there anything in that document about not being cucked to the US?
>>2867879based but also this
>>2867892rightoids can't not suck U$/piᛋᛋrahell dick
>>2867920There's nothing 'based' about ethnic cleansing, polfag
>>2867879Deport the Flemish
I don't wanna vota
>>2868028The flemish are like 3 drought seasons away from dying of thirst
>>2874844Reading the Left Alliance party programme. I think I'm getting an aneurysm it's like they included every lobby groups declaration in this word salad.
>>2868028Also she is dutch
>>2874856which is even worse tbh
>>2866945austria, also economic growth ≠ good to live in, germany especially is gutting its welfare state, even worse than here
Ladies and gentlemen,
I present you,
The outpost of so-called European Civilisation(TM) in the MidEast:
https://www.ref-inst.org/en/articles-and-studies/inequality-rich-in-israel-past-decadehttps://en.globes.co.il/en/article-Israel-has-second-highest-poverty-rate-in-OECD-1001497127https://www.atonibai.com/the-10-biggest-problems-in-israel/#Long-Term_Social_Cohesionhttps://emmanuelgoldstein.com/2025/03/debunking-the-myths-apartheid-racism-and-white-supremacy-in-israel/
>Myth 2: Israel Embodies White Supremacy
>The “white supremacy” charge hinges on a flawed assumption: that Israel is a European settler state dominated by Ashkenazi (European-origin) Jews. This narrative ignores the demographic reality. Over half of Israel’s Jews—about 52%—are Mizrahi, descended from communities in the Middle East and North Africa, including Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, and Iran. Many lived in what is now Israel before 1948 or fled neighboring Arab countries after facing pogroms and expulsion post-independence. Add in the Ethiopian Jewish population (around 150,000) and the picture gets messier for the “white supremacist” trope. Israel’s Jewish population is a kaleidoscope of brown, Black, and olive skin tones—not a monolithic “white” elite.
>Mizrahi Jews aren’t just a statistical majority; they’ve shaped Israel’s culture, politics, and identity. From music (think Eyal Golan) to cuisine (shakshuka, anyone?), their influence is inescapable. Politically, figures like David Levy, a Moroccan-born former foreign minister, and current Likud heavyweights reflect Mizrahi prominence. If Israel were a white supremacist state, how do you explain a nation where the majority of Jews trace their roots to the same region as their Arab neighbors, not Europe?
>Then there’s the Druze angle. As an Arabic-speaking minority with a distinct faith blending elements of Islam, Christianity, and other traditions, the Druze defy the “white vs. non-white” binary. Their loyalty to Israel—demonstrated by over 500 Druze soldiers killed in service since 1948—has earned them respect, not subjugation. The 2018 Nation-State Law, which critics decry as racist for defining Israel as the “national home of the Jewish people,” sparked Druze protests over its omission of minority equality clauses. Yet, the backlash led to dialogue, not suppression, with Netanyahu promising benefits and recognition for Druze service. This isn’t a perfect system, but it’s a far cry from white supremacy. I’ve began to question the notion of European genius, considering how the average eurochud seems to have taken claims of Israel being a “white supremacist” at face value and run with it out of spite and “we love the bloods because the hate the crips”-type tribalistic and sectarian logic.
How dummy you have to be to think Israel is somehow more European than Russia? Ngl, leftists are at fault although in their case it’s understandable since that’s the only frame you can criticise in Europe without having the ZOGs in Europe and their lumpen thugs coming down to your house and arrest you.
Also, X’itter being a nazi-zionist slopaganda outlet for big tech nowadays, it seems that it played a huge role in chudding out Europoids, or at least emboldening the reactionaries in our continent, especially by using mass immigration as a lightning rod to deracinate Europeans and turn them into bland and generic white nationalists of the zionist kind, of the recent astroturf of Eastern European anti-immigration sloptubers are any indication. Like, “remigration” has turned mainstream despite the fact that it will involve ethnic cleansing, and with it comes vicious callousness at human life in general, considering how many of these chuds talk about “suicidal empathy” whilst being sentimental towards animals. I think it’s all a road downward towards the fascist and reactionary politics of WW2 and Yugoslavia, and it’s all from the top down in order to further entrench a new order of imperialistic warfare and totalitarian regimes as they do away with any vestige of the 1989 revolutions.
Doesn’t help how a lot of Eurolibs are turning into Nazis when it comes to not just Muslims, but black and brown people too, and I don’t think it’ll stop there. In the UK, the rise in lumpenised racist politics has gone hands in hands with a rise in homophobia, so I don’t think the future will bode well for us, especially as the ones in charge of the EU and other European countries are apathetic towards Musk’s interference in European politics.
This, despite how Russia has interfered less with Europe compared to Israel and the USA.
>>2890443In persom does not compare with photos, I will go to the one in the south next year. Will not go to the one in 2028 tho since its not total
>>2899661He's kinda right
Swedes, will you vote for the Left party or?
>>2899794>legitimizing the election by voting for the NATO leftno thank you. not even Nooshi's Nooshis can convince me
>>2877521>it's realholy shit I thought it was just an edit
>the zero euro bill is not a one-off just for Marxdisappointing
Any anons from Barcelona who can recommend civil war sites to visit in the city
Yankee occupied goverment
Poster is Greek
> Germans asked us to provide Patriot defence systems to Kiev. We responded that since Turkey is threatening us with war and continuously violates international law in our waters, we cant give such important systems without them be replaced by new ones. Germany prefers not to pressure Turkey to respect international law end EU boarders, than assisting Kiev (it seems). Go figure
> It's like Germany wants Turkey powefull to somehow team up and counter French/Italian power within EU. I cant imagine anything else that makes sense
the King of Norway is dead. So now, the Queen of Norway is someone who wrote lots of mails to Epstein
>>2902082finally, women pedophiles in positions of power
>>2902088So tolerant and progressive.
>>2902089half of child rape victims should be boys hashtag girlboss
>>2899794I heard Stig-Olov Holm is running for MP (the Greens). he's been a consistent thorn in the side of the forest companies, which is good. not sure if this is enough to justify voting for a pro-NATO party (they all are)
>>28998832022 really decimated any remaining NATO and EU skepticism in Sweden huh
>>2902725Entire continent is in a frenzy since the invasion
>>2902735Honesty if monke was smart he would've postured an invasion and then called it off at the last minute. Would've made US intelligence seem like warmongering fools and further damaged the EU's trust of the US.
>>2902752I remember watching the news about it on the day of the invasion when not much was clear and thinking it must've just been some more blatant intervention into the already existing eastern Ukrainian conflict as an all out invasion would be fucking stupid, but sadly not.
Four years later and every country has retarded policies in place to prepare us all for another continent spanning conflict. Here in the Netherlands we are now paying a new regressive tax to build up the armed forces, which the new government calls, in Orwellian fashion, a "freedom contribution". Absolutely ridiculous. There's also pretty much a roadmap for the reintroduction of a military draft if there is not a large enough increase of volunteers by way of less coercive measures. I heard German men leaving the country for more than 3 months already have to notify the Bundeswehr. My German friend is even thinking of emigrating as he finds the direction his country is heading absolutely crazy. I'm sure there's plenty more nonsense elsewhere.
Meanwhile the only opposition to all of this seems to be the far right who either believe Putin is the Dark Knight fighting the Globalists or just want cheap gas and, on the other side, the parties and orgs left of bourgeois social democratic parties, who have varying degrees of political relevance depending on the country.
Fuck our gay ass beautiful continent.
>>2902806on the bright side, libs hate amerikkka now because of orange man
>>2902725opposition to NATO was always half-hearted. hating Russia was always more important. russophobia was a huge component of anticommunism in Sweden during the Cold War
>>2902842yeah, they will continue bending over for USA for another few decades at least
MLs were right about social democrats, if nothing else
>>2902842libs think putin = trump
>>2902835oh nyo not the russophobia
>>2903425That its not a coincidence that far right supports Putin.
>>2903425wtf I love Le Pen now
>>2903938We had a capitalist that came on tv and was like "it's fantastic what they do in china, 70 hours work week, the employees sleep in the factories, incredibly more productive than here and they don't complain"
The covid debt will have to be paid one way or another, and if they have to add on top of that the hormuz debt, germany is just gonna quit the EU in fear of hyperinflation
>>2903938Factor in climate change
>>2903938Every time this guy opens his mouth it seems to be bad news for Germans lmao
>>2903425The nationalist far right in Europe is basically now aligned with the US
and Russia. The neoliberal project that is the EU still gives too much to the workers, does too many regulations for foreign commodities and has too much bargaining power for international markets. When the eurosceptic chuds win the elections they'll be more able to sweep away all that
>>2903953Anyone know how many paid annual vacation days they have in China?
>>2903938there's a simple way to raise productivity: ban profit. all surplus must be invested. that wouldn't fly with Merz' bosses of course
>>2904054we had the same thing in Sweden back in 2008 with the FRA law. our dear leaders assured us that this information would never be used for nefarious purposes. when opponents pointed out that fascists might get into power, they were dismissed as tinfoil hat wearing weirdos. 2 years later SD, our fascist party, got into the Riksdag. today they run the Tidö government behind the scenes
>>2904054>>2904059The nazis just had to send orders to round up the gays, put a pink triangle on them and eventually gas them. The weimar regime already had done the intelligence legwork
>>2904059Lmao I just did some searching around and apparently the laws regarding beefing up the military to 100000 personnel is modeled on Sweden. Before, 17 year olds would get a letter notifying them that they are subject to the inactive military draft. Now a questionnaire is included, which can be filled out on a voluntary basis for now. If that is not enough, the questionnaire will become mandatory, after which a medical checkup will become mandatory and I guess after that we're back to an active draft.
>>2904068Same here with Jews, along with plenty of collaboration of course.
russophobes are retarded
>>2904086I think a million dead in a retarded war is pretty scary tbh
>>2904110>believing any official numbers in a war still ongoingLmao
>>2904111Reduce it to 100k and it's still pretty scary
>>2904074yes, it has been possible in Sweden for quite long to simply say that you do not want to be part of the military for the conscription people to let you go, or to be excused for rather minor medical issues. I was able to be excused even from the screening (mönstring) due to my bad knees. today Porky wants blood, so I doubt it's as easy to get away from conscription as 20+ years ago
>>2904126I hope the kids see through all of this bullshit
>>29041311/3 male voters vote for SD. not sure about the age distribution. among men my age the chuddery is palpable
>>2903938The reason China overtook Europe was by a massive state-led economy, massive subsidies and supplementation of actual productive industry, huge investments into infrastructure and R&D, regulating the financial market by giving clear red lines and direction by state-owned banks. You know, all the stuff where Merz would cry out "communism" (it's state capitalism in a socialist republic with a communist party in charge, nothing more nothing less).
Not because a Chinese worker worked 60 min longer a day. Euro-neoliberals and austerity fanatics are braindead and will be our gravediggers.
>>2904278Meh, China didn't overtake the EU in GDP yet despite a population thrice as large. Europe became wealthy also by going to a process of massive exportations of commodities being the workshop of the world. Then its economy "matured", labor costs made it offshore some of its industry and growth came to 1 or 2 percents. China will go through the same process, there is no sorcery making it able to escape the iron law of capitalism, they're just doing it faster because they are well organized, benefit from african neocolonialism for resources and many more and much bigger markets to sell their products. The neolibs like Merz have point though that they can keep the ball rolling a little more if they bleed the working class, they just don't want to admit the writing is on the wall for capitalism.
>>2904201I imagine that will change when they're in a trench being hunted by Russian drones.
>>2904291inshallah. unfortunately they're all chickenhawks
>>2904278That's how Britain and the fifth French republic also built up, but they just had to privatize everything that made money you know, it was unjust competition for the free market
>>2904290>muh GDP A lot of European GDP is just debt bubbles and financial rents
>China doing neocolonialism in Africa How long are you retards are going to peddle this bullshit?
Neoliberal have counted on China outsourcing labor by the early 2010s max, and they haven't done so. Instead, the cost of variable capital (labor) in China keeps growing than the cost of constant capital, which goes against the classic Marxist predictions of the labor theory of value and falling rate of profit with regards to imperialism.
>>2903953Ah, Serge Dassault, who didn't even knew what was a supermarket caddie when he started to get into politics in Essonne, and bought out votes from drug dealers. He was quite a character. At least he was rather honest about his intentions.
>>2904053Taxes on dividends used to be much higher than taxes on productive capital when the European economy was blooming, but they don't want you to know about this. We need a bit more supply-side economics, didn't you hear from our dear politicians? Then we will finally be saved.
>>2904278You forget all the high-tech machinery Germany sold to China in the 1990s-2000s in exchange for cheap products, but you are globally right.
>>2904290I wouldn't talk about an "iron law of capitalism", but anons on /leftypol/ tend to underestimate the size of the service sector in China, and think they are completely immune to the global recession.
I've talked with young Chinese people and expats, they have difficulty finding jobs right now and are scared to be replaced by AI. Look at the numbers, 5.2% of unemployment in July 2026, and pic related is youth unemployment from 1991 to 2025, it's around 16% right now.
Their wages are low, a lot of people only earn 500€ a month (though a bowl of noodles cost 1.5€), and rents in tier 1 and 2 cities are quite high. They surprisingly have similar problems to us, their politicians are just less stupid and don't insist on continuing neoliberal policies that have made us steadily poorer for the past 40 years.
>>2904394As soon as Italy had to implement the necessary reforms for the establishment of the European Union, its strong export-oriented manufacturing sector advantaged by a weak lira (basically the situation of China on the global market right now) went down the shitter while our wholesome European entrepreneurs delocalized all the production to Asia. Now Italy is a country of dying boomers who reached 42.67% of youth unemployment in 2014. Don't we all love the EU and our great European treaties ensuring stronger collaboration and competitivity?
>>2904449China isn't immune to bubbles, do you remember Evergrande? The difference is that in China, South Korea and Vietnam, when something like this happen, the culprits get prison for life, here it's a slap on the wrist.
About the collaboration between Chinese entrepreneurs and African laborers, watch the Empire of Dust, the documentary that is at the origin of the "It's all so tiresome" meme.
And China is already outsourcing labor, notably the final assembly of products in Vietnam. But the price of labor is still quite cheap in China, and capital controls are stricter, so they don't delocalize as much as Europe did in the 1980s.
>>2904503>China isn't immune to bubbles, do you remember Evergrande?The housing sector isn't dominated by SOEs like other sectors of the economy though, so isn't it quite anomalous?
It may not be over yet
>In February 2026, the euro area trade balance reached a surplus of €11.5 bn, following a deficit of €1.0 bn in January 2026. This improvement was primarily driven by the machinery and vehicles sector, where the surplus rose from €1.5 bn in January 2026 to €10.2 bn in February 2026.https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/6-17042026-ap>>2905800>muh trade balancei hate orange uyghur so much it's unreal
>>2905959not just le trade balance,the "euro" trade balance (wow germany isn't bleeding money anymore unlike everyone else,so cool ! EUROPA united forevaaaar)
Sachsen-Anhalt status?
Campoids will cheer AfD victory because they're thirdies who are anti-West, not anti-fascist.
>Swedish election authority had a computer oopsie where 4000 votes might be declared invalid
hmmm
>>2908031I support fascist Afghanistan against the west, why would afd be any different
>>2908189let a midwit read any member of the rsdlp and they will become a hitlerite
>>2908189So you're admitting you're not a leftist, you just hate the west.
You will be in front of the firing squads if I ever have any say in it. You can't be a leftist and support Afghanistan or western fascists. You're just a tribalist, and tribalism is a right wing disorder.
>>2908201>you just hate the westyes i hate imperialism, problemo? read Trotsky
>>2908214I don't care what Trostsky said. The West is not inherently imperialist, you are just a tribalist and thus, as I am a Westerner, you are insisting on making yourself my enemy.
>>2908243>the west is not inherently imperialistic Yes it is, you are what you do and nothing else, no one gives a fuck about your “inner world” which is a mask you wear for yourself when you’re reflecting on your actions in public
>>2908214>read TrotskyWhere's a good place to start?
>>2908243The West is imperialist currently, therefore it has to be dismantled.
>>2908243>The West is not inherently imperialisteuroid moment
>>2867827Chuds will see this and still say “he’s /ourguy/“
>>2908255I will fight to the death to ensure you do not, up to and including nuclear apocalypse. If the West cannot be included in the post-capitalist world, the world should be annihilated.
>>2908287You'll do nothing.
>>2908189>>2908214BadEmpanada is that you?
>>2908287meant this guy but works as well
>>2908250 >>2908522>no more proteinTwice a week is unironically enough protein, you can even have yogurt with protein if you really need that, we already eat much more protein than we need constantly
>>2908525Maybe I am falling for chudbait, but this seems like the worst kind of shitlib measure to me. Developing kids obviously benefit from eating meat and dairy, I don't trust the Polish school system to implement this in a way where they'd get the nutritional value from other sources. It seems like a straightforward regression to post-WW2 poverty of the 50s.
>>2908525it's not enough, there's a variety of aminnoacids and you don't even get them all from meat not to even mention legumes
a good diet consists of daily meat and eggs consumption
>>2908545a good diet consists of raw meat only
>>2908544Hue and cry, humans won, pigs are tasty.
>>2908550maybe in the future, for now it's not possible to scale industrial production of types of meat that can be safely eaten raw
>>2905551>ZieglerIn 1964, Ziegler met Che Guevara on his visit to Geneva, and befriended the Cuban revolutionary driving him around Switzerland.[4][3] Ziegler revealed to Atossa Araxia Abrahamian that when he asked Che Guevara whether he could follow him to Cuba the latter said: "Here is where you were born, and here lives the monster's brain. It is here that you must fight."[3]
>>2908553we know communism has been reached when every person has his or her own dead carcass to gnaw on.
>>2908556>own carcassown in the sense of personal property of course. the dead carcasses must not be commodified, lest communism has failed. also, everyone who as much as thinks about eating a plant will be shot.
>>2908545Really ? Then they're just putting the cost on the parents since it's only for lunch at school. (Even tho parents already pay for it)
>>2908545>daily meat and eggsBut that's ass. I don't wanna eat meat everyday lmao
>>2908545> good diet consists of daily meat and eggs consumptionHumans have trived for thousands of years eithoit eating meat or eggs every single day.
Veggie day once a week won't hurt anyone: now eat your broccoli
>>2909208supplementation and widespread knowledge about nutrition has made the last two generations (in developed world) grow significantly higher than the generations before, we haven;t thrived *yet*
>>2909997Operation Gladio type shit
Big news in Serbia this morning, Vucic finally disbanded the parliament after almost 500 days since the student movement has been requesting elections. He announced he will resign as president and become prime minister if they win.
Signs seem to be pointing towards a loss for Vucic/SNS, their popularity has never been lower since they first got the parliament in 2014. Their coalition partner SPS is also falling apart lately, after they ejected a high-ranking member who wanted SPS to break with SNS, and their voterbase has been falling in general since their previous peak in 2022. Those lost votes probably go to SNS anyway, but they might get wasted if they fall under the threshold.
On the other side, a lot of the opposition parties are going to run too, in like 3-4 different coalitions. This is probably going to waste a lot of votes due to the threshold because the Student list took their voterbase.
I think Vucic losing is a win, but I don't know how this Student list experiment is going to go. I'm guessing the future parliament members won't launch political careers from this but I'm afraid that they'll just lib out and refuse even the weak social democracy stuff from the program, let alone introducing any direct democracy stuff. Another danger is that they just become dysfunctional and fall apart, organizing new elections and having the remnants of SNS/SPS or the trash that's currently the opposition take over.
>>2908189AfD is backed by the US retard, you are supporting the west
>>2910438ignore the afd baiters, there's no way anyone thinks a right-slopulist is genuine in promising to be a peaceful dove after trump 2
>>2910438>AfD is backed by the US retard,The west is not backing a party that wants to lift all sanctions on Russia lmao
>>2910479The west is more thirsty for Brown people's blood than Russian blood.
>>2910479Fakest and gayest program resolution I've read
>>2910481>The west is more thirsty for Brown people's blood than Russian bloodthan why is america prioritizing what little ballistic missile interceptor stockpiles they have left for the brown mizrahi zionists (over half of israels population) over the white aryan ukrainians?
>>2910489Alice Weidel was employed by the state-owned Bank of China for six years and her PhD thesis analyzed the pension system of the PRC and ways to make it stronger, these people clearly aren't grifters
>>2910494ukraine lost euroid, NATO/EU dying a slow death is simply a natural consequence of that. trump recognizing this reality does not make it untrue
>>2910512china is the only benefactor of the ukraine war lasting as long as possible. it's policy is as self-serving as always.
>>2910512lol Russians leaked this footage to make it appear like China was supporting them shooting another diplomatic bullet in their feet for reddit karma. This dude retired just after. Anyway seethe and cope nazi, XI said eu good
>>2910528>china is the only benefactor of the ukraine war lasting as long as possible. so why are they supporting the afd? this logic makes no sense
>Ding Yifan, a senior fellow with Renmin University’s Institute of Global Governance and Development in Beijing, said China was monitoring the political shift in Germany with a wait-and-see attitude after having “changed its previous policy of avoiding contact with far-right parties”.“If the AfD comes to power, it will prompt Germany to return to rationality and reconsider its relations with Russia and China,” Ding said.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3367059/far-right-afd-party-won-big-saxony-anhalt-will-it-change-germanys-approach-china >>2908522legumes have protein retard, fish too (i think, i don't like fish)
>>2910499>recognizeIt was entirely up to Trump whether to kill NATO or not, he chose to kill it. He didn't have to.
>>2910539Imagine thinking trump and musk backed nazoids are rational people who will improve their country lol thank you though I feel good being incredibly smarter than college professors
>>2910539because they want the war to last as long as possible. russia's on it's backleg, needs all the help it can get
>>2910562yeah china benefits greatly from the war as it became de facto sole client of russian industry which in turn give china all the power to demand better prices and deals
your skewed view of the conflict is not true and frankly pathetic
i don't get why we're discussing china and russia in the eu thread, neither even belongs on the same continent.
>>2910567Well China is supporting the EU in the hopes that it can be a "pole" by itself detached from the US. On the other hand US and Russia are supporting a nationalist balkanization of the EU to impose their foreign policy more easily so these countries are related to the EU.
>>2910626>supporting the EU in the hopes that it can be a "pole" by itself detached from the USbut even the EU doesn't want that,the founding chart put the military control of the EU under NATO in the first place,you would need to rewrite half of that shit and then have everyone sign on it
>>2910775Nobody cares about the founding chart, the EU and NATO have a bunch of common declarations that can go out the window easy, the individual countries depending on the US military arsenal for their defense are way more materially dependent from the burgers however and the only way for them to stop this is to get the nuclear umbrella from France and the weapons from producers like Belgium Germany etc. which basically means that the European Union must integrate or they'll stay being US satellites
>>2910801Ah so you just need to put someone in charge of the european commission that isn't US aligned, and then you need to set up an european army (without giving everything to ukraine in the process) and then have individual countries set up their armies under the new european command and blatantly exit NATO, it's that easy.
You need every eastern euro country to shut the fuck up and follow the plan btw
>>2910816it is in disarray
it is a continuation of muscovy, a rump state of mongol empire
>>2910855The EU will integrate naturally because it's that or the european ourgeoisie falling in line with US imperialism and the terms for them are way better as EU rulling class than burger compradors. Paperwork is a formality but the economic and military decoupling which has been happening for a while now is progressing still even with russia going full retard
>>2910859it won't: europeans are already tired of foreigners and with core countries going through identity crises no one will push for it
>>2910859>The EU will integrate naturallyLmao no
>>2910816>Thus Europe faces only one alternative: Either Asian barbarism, under the leadership of the Muscovites, will come down on Europe like an avalanche, or Europe must restore Poland and thereby protect itself against Asia with a wall of 20 million heroes, to win time for the consummation of its social transformation>Thus, the Russia of the Normans completely disappears from the stage, and the few weak reminiscences in which it still outlived itself, dissolve before the terrible apparition of Genghis Khan. The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy.>If the Muscovite Czars, who worked their encroachments principally by the agency of the Tartar Khans, were obliged to tartarize Moscovy; Peter the Great, who resolved upon working through the agency of the West, was obliged to civilize Muscovy. In taking possession of the Baltic provinces, he at once seized the tools necessary for this process. They afforded him not only the diplomats and the generals, the brains with which to execute his system of political and military action upon the West. They yielded him, at the same time, a crop of bureaucrats, schoolmasters, and drill-sergeants who were to drill into the Russians that veneer of civilization that adapts them to the technical appliances of the western peoples, without imbuing them with their ideas … >>2910868There is no identity crisis, it's all a rulling class manufactured campaign to keep workers divided and the left out of power. You are a terminal retard if you post on this website and still fall for the bourgeois scape goat tactic while thinking chauvinism and racism are in any way organic
>>2911047>under the leadership of the Muscovites, will come down on Europe like an avalanche,Nobody respects them after this war. It was all just a paper tiger.
>>2911050>There is no identity crisisyou're in denial. every other native sits and home and masturbates to the vision of good ol' times.
is racism and chauvinism organic? idk, it doesn't even matter. it is a REACTION to the failed multikulti push.
>>2911050>You are a terminal retard if you post on this website and still fall for the bourgeois scape goat tactic while thinking chauvinism and racism are in any way organicyep pretty much
>>2911183Is the multicultural push in the room with us right now? Forever the rulling class has been pitting workers against each others. The raciest chuds always live in the most segregated places like Poland while being brainwashed daily by the racist bourgeois press. You follow the money and it's always the big bourgeois and foreign powers financing and plateforming the immigration obsessed xenophobic parties like AfD, FdL, RN and all the vermin. Each time the workers rise up from their torpor for proletariat stuff and do strkes and protests they can't care less about immigration and ask for more wages, fair prices or rent, better working conditions or more political representation - which makes msm completely mald btw who are then like "but what about the arabs, what about the heckin burkini" like a broken disk
>>2911235do you need me to show you the recent election results in east germany? i could also post piles of articles lauding the 'new germans', 'quintessentially british' etc. open twitter, change the localization to poland you'll find out every other day it's nothing but complaining about 'too many fucking foreigners'.
your disagreement doesn't make the topic not discussed nor the problem not real.
don't wipe your mouth with workers, it's the working class that gets shafted by the immigration first and foremost - they're the most dependent on social benefits which get axed when the system is overburdened, they're the ones who have to compete with unfair wages of the immigrants.
>>2911247out of all the german states saxony anhalt has one the lowest share of foreign-born residents and migrants so your logic doesn't really make sense here
>>2911298and apparently it's already too many
>>2911298It's very often like that cause the workers who live and get exploited together realize more easily where the class boundary lies while the segregated one are more vulnerable to xenophobic psyops
>>2911306It could also be argued that the place with more immigrants aren't going to complain about themselves, obviously, so it's not surprising there are less racists
Imo the left should just abuse the same talking points the far-right uses.
>bring back jobs
>stop sending aid to ukraine
>fuck the EU
>etc etc
At this point all that matters is winning imo, doesnt matter how
>>2911413Either the left lies and wins or the far right lies and wins. People don’t want to hear the truth they want to hear people who give simple answers to difficult questions unfortunately.
>>2911421you run on lies sooner than later you get the boot with humiliation on the side; people don't want to listen to sermons, they want their problems solved
>>2911437>ou run on lies sooner than later you get the boot with humiliation on the sideancient egyptian society believed that the pharaoh was a god who controlled the seasons and the Nile floodings. For a few thousand years.
>>2911421The left winning in CIA occupied USA will just be right-centrists posing as the left winning. There is no left winning without some sort of an actual war in the USA. This is whats so hard for socialists to admit.
>>2911454>The left winning in CIA occupied USA will just be right-centrists posing as the left winning.You mean the likes of Bernie Sanders? What do people think of him over here anyway?
>>2911452pharaoh's not an elected representative
>>2911406It does not work and will not work, if people want the right-wing populism, they will vote for them directly, not the diet coke leftists conveniently meeting their demands, why bother with the copy when you can have the original (you also lose all your original electorate)
>>2911406why would any leftist party be pro-militarization and pro-EU?
>>2911406The parties left of Bourgeois Social Democracy are doing that already in many countries without success, at least the specific points you list out. There's more to it than that. I think part of the problem is just incompetence. Mfers don't have the media on their side and can't campaign for shit.
>>2911406I really like the Danish social democrats because of this. Just use same idpol right uses and you stay in power.
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