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Communists would do better if they realised that Gorbachev wasn't a traitor. He was a comically committed Leninist and he got most of his worst ideas (like basically every move to empower the different nations of the USSR, which would ultimately lead to them all leaving, or his economic policies, which were inspired by the NEP) from reading Lenin. He destroyed the USSR not because he saw the light of neoliberalism and converted, but because he believed he could recover its "true" origins before it became corrupted and stagnant.

This doesn't tell us anything about Lenin, who had been dead for decades, but it does tell you where LARPing as Lenin and treating Lenin like the biblical truth will take you. You have to understand the situation as it actually exists in the here and now, not by shoehorning it in to the texts of long dead heroes. Your analyses should start from reality and work towards useful predictions, rather than starting from dogma and working towards reconciling it with reality.

Gorbachev's failure is substantially worse in light of his loyalty to the cause.

I agree but this should be on the main board.

>>2845206
>He was a comically committed Leninist
retard

Have you read this book, Anon? To me Gorbachev comes off as an incompetent retard who, indeed as you say, did not understand the actual workings of the Soviet Union or its economy. He saw issues and felt the need for a radical new course, but this new course plunged the Union into both an economic and political crisis, resulting in the economy cannibalising itself and plenty of political room for nationalism to spread like a cancer. Gorbachev's politburo was marred by the General Secretary's indecisiveness where his lieutenants often received platitudes rather than concrete instructions concerning policy, which only worsened the situation until Gorbachev had completely painted himself into a corner where he held no real power and the ball was now at the feet of the gravediggers of the Union like Yeltsin. Ironically, the August coup plotters had the same penchant for sitting on their hands.

Perhaps if the role of General Secretary had kept being passed around amongst the same group of geriatrics the Union would have still been around.

And yeah the guy liked reading Lenin for guidance, but the father of the Union was sadly not gonna break out of his glass box in his mausoleum to knock some sense into Mikhail Sergeyevich.

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>>2845206
>Communists would do better if they realized that Gorbachev wasn't a traitor. He was a comically committed Leninist

This is a terrible reading, there's a mountain of evidence, that Gorby was driven by vanity and narcissism. Gorby revealed state secrets to Thatcher, when he visited the UK in 1984. He is a traitor.

There's also Yakovlev's notes. https://media.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1023389

>The political conclusions of Marxism are unacceptable for the emerging civilization, which is looking for a path to reconciliation, mitigation of the initial conflicts and contradictions of existence. – Yakovlev


If gorby was truly a Leninist, Gorby should have arrested Yakovlev, for saying some of the most un-Leninist sentences ever written.

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I subscribe to Great Buffoon Theory: Gorby was mostly just an idiot. an opportunist, chavinistic idiot, but an idiot nonetheless
jakovlev on the other hand..

>>2845338
How could an idiot reach this level of importance in such a huge, complex party? I know it was terminally decadent and increasingly filled with retarded nationalists since Breznhev became lobotomized but still that's not the political ascention an idiot can make.

>>2845472
because the party form is garbage

>>2845477
And what’s the superior alternative?

>>2845206
Dissolved the party. Also Yakoklev. Not even Deng dissolved the CPC. It just doesn't apply here.

>>2845486
He should have dissolved the CPSU and merged it into the CPC, turning the Soviet Union into a Chinese province, this would have solved every issue.

>>2845477
What is your alternative?

>>2845483
>>2845512
imageboard form

>>2845483
finding that out is the supreme task of communists today, but they're mostly interested in LARPing the CPSU

>>2845472
he was the face of the conspiracy behind him

>>2845582
>>2845564
the party form continues to reign supreme…

>>2845490
>gorbachev should have solved the sino soviet split
yes he should have done a lot of things but he was not on the side you think he was.

>>2845483
cooperatives, unions, and mutual aid groups must united under a militant organ. not a party, which is primarily bureaucratic and only secondarily militant, but an army, which is primarily militant and only secondarily bureaucratic

>>2845593
supremely wrecked by liberals, I agree

>>2845593
>elect a lib
>he can now do whatever he wants in the name of democratic centralism
sounds like the easiest shit to infiltrate and wreck


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