/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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My philosophy is heavily influenced by suicide and failed coup d'état

Locke has gotta be one of the biggest pseuds of all time

>>2845874
Are you Adam Smith anon from the /political economy/ thread?

>>2845874

If rights are not natural, how is it possible to violate them then?

And a much more important issue: One can always deliberately set themselves up with a normative framework that demands given rights be violated at least in given circumstances. You can shout "unnatural" or "evil" all you want and your opponent can simply "Yes. Fuck your rights."

>>2845874
What philosophy? Mishima wrote homoerotic novellas.

>here's a completely unsolicited vague summary of my beliefs, formulate an opinion about it NOW
no, i don't think i will

>>2845928
Rights are historical, not natural 🤔

>>2852751

I agree with you. I accidentally put in a "not" in my reply where there shouldn't be. In my view, rights are a legal category, and hence a set of social relations when enforced.

I often think marxists & communists should just drop the term altogether, and instead advocate for "social protections" or "social guarantees" which avoids the liberal, propertarian & strange metaethical baggage of the term "rights".

>"The twentieth-century statesman whom the Thomas Jefferson of January 1793 would have admired most is Pol Pot,"
https://www.atlassociety.org/post/the-forgotten-essentials-of-jeffersons-philosophy
Real Liberalism has never been tried.

>>2845970
The Sound of Waves is a purely hetero romance and it’s pretty good, Patriotism is about killing yourself instead of making a decision between your country and your friends who attempted a coup and failed. Spring Snow and its sequels you have more of a point with.

>>2853030
The only Mishima I've read is Sun and Steel, and Temple of Golden Pavillion. I found both quite interesting, and eccentric of the type of person that Mishima actually was, which was a romantic person, who unfortunately saw heroism in the lies of his own tradition. His death was fabulously poetic, in how the soldiers sneered at his coup d'etat; the spirit of samurai is dead, and Mishima witnessed it. His suicide is also tragic, of how his friend hardly had the strength to behead him. The Age of Heroes has passed, as Hesiod forewarns; we are men of iron, not brazen demi-gods sent to dispense honour.

>>2853030
>>2853036
A figure of romance akin to Mishima in the time of Marx and Engels was Thomas Carlyle, who Engels responds to rather sympathetically:
<Since however the place of the old religion could not remain entirely vacant, we have acquired a new gospel in its stead, a gospel that accords with the hollowness and lack of substance of the age – the gospel of Mammon. The Christian heaven and the Christian hell have been abandoned, the former as doubtful, and the latter as absurd – and you have acquired a new hell; the hell of modern England is the consciousness of “not succeeding, of not making money.” […] Carlyle complains about the emptiness and hollowness of the age, about the inner rottenness of all social institutions. The complaint is fair; but by simply complaining one does not dispose of the matter; in order to redress the evil, its cause must be discovered; and if Carlyle had done this, he would have found that this desultoriness and hollowness, this “soullessness” this irreligion and this “atheism” have their roots in religion itself. Religion by its very essence drains man and nature of substance, and transfers this substance to the phantom of an otherworldly God, who in turn then graciously permits man and nature to receive some of his superfluity. […] The hollowness has long been there, for religion represents man’s action of making himself hollow; and you are surprised that now, when the purple that concealed it has faded, when the fog that enveloped it has passed away, that now, to your consternation, it emerges in the full light of day?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/df-jahrbucher/carlyle.htm

>>2845912
He only loses to you in this category.

>>2845874
>I made this without a hint of irony.
I seriously doubt that

I'm no doctor but, mass shooters and other suicide attackers might have something in common psychologically with Mishima. I just feel like Evola was painting a hierarchy with big joke as it's yolk and that Mishima was completely mad and was masking it. He predicted his own suicide 10 years before in a novel (Kyoko no le, 1959) and then placed his active suicidality in a political spectacle for us to witness.

Extreme aestheticism? Traditionalism? Cosmic absurdity? Dysphoria? idk.

>>2877879
>>2853030
>>2845874
He was a but, but I respect him a hell of a lot more than Nietzsche. Mishima at least understood basic economics, wartime economies, nationalization and some of the problems with capitalism, rather than just saying, “Um, socialism and liberalism are bad because Christianity, the world should be ruled by aristocratic masters like ancient Rome, which I can totally understand" Mishima even had a debate with Marxist university students. During that 2 1/2 debate, he admitted that he admired some Marxists for their passion and drive. A few of those university students would eventually join his cause, including during his failed coup.
He also trained relentlessly to overcome the weaknesses of his body and become physically strong. Unlike Nietzsche, who remained physically weak, Mishima actually pushed himself to become the person he believed he should be.
He wasn’t a good man, he wasn't. but at least he did what he said he believed in.