/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Lebanon, no? Most of the happenings used to happen in urban areas. Chechenya too.

you'd need a few things to successfully pull off an urban insurgency:
>broad level of community support in at least some parts of the city.
<these don't have to be members of your insurgency but just normal people who won't talk to the police about you and can help hide you. ideally you don't want this to be your family because thats gonna put them at risk and also compromise you.
>members that can infiltrate law enforcement.
<ideally these should be women since they're the least likely to be accused and the most likely to be trusted. having people that can infiltrate prisons is also great. infiltration of law enforcement is absolutely REQUIRED for any successful insurgency. even Hezbollah does it against the IDF.
>some level of financial backing or a means of generating money.
<dealing drugs is one method but smuggling goods is probably a much better method. this means you need members who can infiltrate trade ports, customs, etc. you also need this money to be in cash and crypto as you can't just deal in cash these days.
>at least a few people who are proficient in making bombs, ghost guns, and drones, or at least smuggling them
<there are already plenty of guides for doing this on the darknet, and many on youtube for drones, but you need people with experience, so that kind of requires recruiting ex-cartels or ex-soldiers which is always kind of risky.
>at least a few military or insurgency veterans who can train you in urban combat, opsec, choosing your targets, etc
<this is kind of hard because 9 times out of 10 someone offering you this kind of training is either a glowie or a bullshitter faking their credentials. for example graham platner trained a bunch of LGBT marxists in guns but i bet now every single one of them is on an FBI watchlist.

mass surveillance is kind of a non-issue if you practice correct opsec, and most of your work actually won't be violence but agitating and infiltrating various organizations to make them collapse. if your hope of an insurgency is just about shooting cops you'll inevitably fail. that shit is only a last resort. what you should focus on is building up resources and slowly taking over streets pretty much like street gangs do until you can overwhelm the established government through political influence. that is when the actual violence starts as they come to your turf to try to uproot you and reestablish order.

>>2846779
Good answer

something something read Joe Slovo

>>2846746
You need part of the army on your side. Conscript and voluntary. This will piss off anti-imperialist moralists.

Ring up Pyongyang and ask for some drilling experts to teach you how to make tunnels. Every single insurgent movement that hasn't shit the bed has a tunnel system that they got, in one way or another, from the DPRK

>>>/AKM/
Probably already have threads about this.

>>2847200
I know a marxist that im very close to thats in the millitary right now, and from the meetings at the org im in i've heard about similar people.

In a modern Westernized country, ‘insurgency’ usually translates to either random mass violence or a doomed shootout where you lose twenty people just to claim you ‘struck a blow against the system.’ The black panthers learned that one the hard way, but people still talk about it like it was some legendary revolutionary campaign instead of a complete mismatch in force. And if you avoid that fate, you end up like the Weather Underground, so incompetent that the government could barely be bothered to care

>>2846746
my recs. "Heavy Radicals" isn't about urban guerrillas but shows exactly how orgs are infiltrated and fall apart into weird sects. The Green Book is very grounded and straightforward. The rest are a bit more dubious. Marighella also never really got anywhere with urban guerrilla tactics.

• Leonard, Aaron J. Gallagher, Conor A., "Heavy Radicals: The FBI's Secret War on America's Maoists: The Revolutionary Union / Revolutionary Communist Party 1968-1980"
  
• "Provisional IRA Green Book" vol. 1
  
• Guevara, Che, "Guerilla Warfare: A Method", 1963
  
• Marighella, Carlos, "Minimanual of the Urban Guerilla", 1969
  
• T. Derbent, "The German Communist Resistance: 1933-1945"

>>2847389
>And if you avoid that fate, you end up like the Weather Underground, so incompetent that the government could barely be bothered to care
Ironic. The government only executed 2 cpusa members in their entire history

>>2846746
You need dedicated short range drone groups and logistics for them and you can empty entire city.

>>2847487
Banger BTW.

>>2847389
The Weather Underground was So. Fvcking. Bvsed. Everyone likes to shit on the New Left but their adventurist groups were fucking awesome and we need that in today's world. All we ever get anymore are lone wolf assassins like Luigi. What happened to our organized groups?

>>2848023
They were jokes

>>2848033
They did more for Amerikkkan workers than the CPUSA ever did.

>>2848039
Tsmt bring back blowing up bathrooms in federal buildings

>>2848064
They bombed the headquarters of one of the companies involved in the Chilean coup. That's more effort than anything the CPUSA ever did.

>>2848067
>On September 28, 1973, the Weather Underground bombed an ⁠ITT Corporation building in New York City. The militant group carried out the attack in retaliation for the telecommunications company's heavy involvement in the 1973 Chilean coup d'état.
>The Weatherman underground gave the New York Times a warning 20 minutes before the explosion. Because the building was deserted at the time, no one was hurt, but the blast heavily damaged reception areas and furnishings on multiple floors.
This is the greatest Western revolutionary movement?

Nobody talks about it this way but it was the CIO that betrayed the CPUSA way more than CPUSA betraying American workers, the soviet union, ethnic and sexual minorities, or anyone else you could assert without evidence because most haven’t even skimmed the wiki history of the party

>>2848076
The material conditions for revolution just weren’t there after the New Deal. The US had already laid the foundations of a modern welfare state, complete with Social Security and unemployment insurance, so there wasn’t much incentive for the majority of workers to start rocking the boat.
The New Left decided that black and latino minorities would be the designated “revolutionary vanguard,” but once their major issues were resolved that too turned out to be a dead end. leftists kept discovering ever more “marginalized” groups destined to lead the revolution, rather than just admitting those conditions didn’t exist in the first place and somewhere along the way, they lost the plot entirely

The big push towards surveillance expansion is an attempt to counter the threat of urban insurgency. Urban combat and counterinsurgency is one of the most difficult military tasks currently, and unrestrained urban expansion and development had basically made the entire US eastern seaboard an urban insurgent's wetdream.

The establishment is terrified of an actual US insurgency because the conditions are totally ideal. You've got huge expanses of lightly settled territory through which large, essential, aging infrastructure runs through, the scope of which makes it basically indefensible. Then in the densely settled areas you've got runaway urban sprawl that makes it impossible to isolate one potential hotspot from another. In addition to that, you've got natural barriers like the Appalachian and Rocky mountains which create choke points based on terrain or essential infrastructure. To give an example, when Hurricane Helene hit North Carolina a few years ago, part of the essential I-40 east-west corridor was washed away, severely impacting travel and transport between NC and Tennessee. Imo if insurgency sprouted up in West Virginia, the federal government would have a very hard time trying to put it down without essentially putting the entire state under siege.