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I think I understand why incels and the modern right are so well aligned. An incel doesn't actually hate the fact that dating sucks and some attractive men are really successful at the expense of average men. He just hates that HE'S not the successful man. Totally uninterested in whether or not the system is good (or even real, but that's another argument) – he just wants to be the beneficiary of it.

It's the exact same thing with your modern rightoid antisemite. He doesn't actually hate the things he says the jews do. He just hates that it's them doing it instead of him. Totally and absolutely amoral. Whether it's systemically healthy for ANYONE to do it literally never occurs to him.

I finally get it. It's more than just incidental overlap. It is the exact same causal structure. It's a generalized style of interacting with the world. If you have this style, that you become an antisemite is just as natural that you become an incel.

>>2847093
It's honestly really not. The only reason these guys are RW is because they oppose feminism and as a result coincide with the "trad" larpers. The right is only very loosely connected and is so mostly because of its common hatred for the left (whether lib-left """woke""" or socialist-left)

>>2847093
No, it's because communists are retarded. The moment communists stop being retarded and show the world that they're capable, absolutely everyone starts saying that socialism is actually fine. Everyone does that with China today., including incels and rightoids. It's been quite surprising to me just how little it took for supposedly ultra hitlerite settler amerikkans with extreme hubris to basically universally say fuck america and we support socialism in China or at least accept that it's a valid system we can learn a lot from. People can and do change their minds, it's you who has a skill issue working with them, or alternatively the objective conditions haven't arisen yet. Incels are disproportionately poor nonwhite guys who suffer from racism and capitalism especially hard. It's just that the left is busy munching on crayons.

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>>2847381
this is because china is a faster growing and more sensible version of america lol. in both, the average person's number one goal is the accumulation of treats

Glow thread

this does have some explanatory power for why a lot of rightoids I've met basically think they're in the Elect and will just become rich and famous because there special or something to that effect(and ofc [insert scapegoat here] is why reality hasn't caught up to there mindset yet).

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>>2847381
genuinely illegal truth nuke and you just know that 99% of leftists will NOT listen to it. socialism in one locality would completely end imperial monopoly capital as soon as people realize you can actually just do that and it works actually. localistic politics NOW

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>>2847093
Fatal sparks have set the hearts of all on fire

>>2847381
They just like china cause it's ethnically homogeneous for the most part. They'll lie and pretend like they care about the economic side of things but rightoids have zero interest in the economy they only care about idpol

The flock to us because we’re the only ones who understand that Chad getting all the action leads to an unstable society, and we are the only ones offering them actionable solutions to the incel problem. Don’t over complicate and psychologize things.

>>2847381
your reasoning is good but I will say the reason incels are chuds isn't because they are poor nonwhite guys who suffer under racism and capitalism. the reason they are chuds is because they respond to their oppression with chuddery. hitler was literlaly homeless at one point. poor baby. ᴉuᴉlossnW was working class. poor baby.

>>2863803
>overcomplicate
>psychologize
this is what chuds call it when you notice that the sky is blue, the clouds are white, the grass is green. materialism is offensive to the chud because the chud MVST offer the wrong solutions to problems to reactionaries who refuse to examine material condtions in order to gain any power.

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>>2847093
>temporarily embarrassed millionaire quote applies to getting laid
true

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>>2847093
>>2847369
>>2847381

>>2863847
“Material conditions” you repeat that mantra as if it were a magic word but there is nothing “material” in your analysis at all. The core of the problem is women’s liberation and you keep doubling down on equality and feminism and somehow think the incel problem will go away if the average incel had more access to what you love to call treats but it’s literal magical thinking.

>>2847093
I mean you are kind of right that both racists and incels just want to do things like the powerful do.

But the problem is that communist incels do exist. At least in Russia. They have that guy called Alexei Podnebesny, who was making videos about "vaginocapitalism" or some shit. I never watched him because I never cared about incels, so I can't tell you details about his ideology

>>2863876
Incelism exists in every political position. Not every guy having a hard time getting is going to end up a Nazi. I just think right wing incels might be the loudest because they seemingly have more support.

>>2847093
>It's the exact same thing with your modern rightoid antisemite. He doesn't actually hate the things he says the jews do. He just hates that it's them doing it instead of him.
Also the same with industrial capitalists and MLs.

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>>2847093
>It's the exact same thing with your modern rightoid antisemite. He doesn't actually hate the things he says the jews do. He just hates that it's them doing it instead of him. Totally and absolutely amoral.
Yeah, basically.
Rightwing people don't really mind colonialism/genocide/all the bad things Israel is said to do, yep, but so long as they aren't being colonized/genocided/kicked around.
It's really simple as that.
Any group has an ego-driven bias–people make no apologies and hardly steps outside of its ego.
Whether it be for any tribe, race, nationalism – it is primarily egocentric of "mine" versus "thine".
It's no hypocrisy. It's how people are.
War, genocide, rape, murder, might makes right – this is what happens among all nations tbh.
Nations conquer or be conquered.
When they are conquered, they lament & want retribution/revenge.
It happened to even Western nations.
They don't care about fairness or altruistic selfless shows of pity.
They don't really care that they reap or benefit from colonial exploits–they are glad for it.
They don't care about war atrocities in distant lands with people they don't know.
They don't care at all–and yes, even if it is hypocritical, they'll complain about being invaded in spite of having colonial empires invading others.

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It's the case as well especially with race nationalists that although they lament how Jews view them as cattle and all this other stuff, they also basically hold the same views as well towards others not too unlike the worst they say about Jews.
That's why probably Nietzsche didn't like them and Christian antisemites–because of their resentment towards Jews and kind of moralizing as if they also don't cultivate these things around their own sense of superiority.

>>2863858
> The core of the problem is women’s liberation
sorry, women's liberation was based and historically progressive. We're not going back to foot binding, daughter dowries, witch hunts, abrahamic superstitions about menstrual cycles being unclean, child brides, teen pregnancies, no birth control, no sex education, legalized spousal rape, brood mares, harems, etc.

You can cry about it being a "problem" but it's only a "problem" for you.

>>2863858
lmao a 12 year old wrote this, only explanation for such a shortsighted view of the last century
Women have had the vote since 1920, the "incel problem" is a decade old. Claiming one led to the other is ludicrous and itself a lie perpetuated by incels. It's revisionist self-important masturbation. Incel culture is a product of the internet and was cultivated by far-right capitalist interests.
You are gonna look back on what you were like now and cringe.

>>2863847
truth nuke. The chud denies reality. That's why we gotta gulag them you can't reason with people like that. They legit live in a fairy tale world

>>2863858
Most women are capable of productive labor. To exclude them from it is foolish, it will cause production to lag behind.
Women historically have had changes in labour positions over the year and yes sexual relations change; to try to fight this to "retvrn" is like trying to push water back upstream.

>>2863978
Yh, reminds me of a tidbit Andrew Anglin said, where he stated that his main issue with these forever wars wasn’t that those were wars at all, as much as that said wars would only benefit ZOG as opposed to white people since the booty of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars mostly went to the Jewish elite and their shabbos goyim at the government as opposed to ordinary Americans, an outcome he sees as inevitable since in his opinion the only way white Americans would be able to benefit from these wars would be by engaging in settler-colonialism wholesale.


But beyond that, he stated his supports for wars of empire and expansion if ordinary white people benefitted from it in concrete ways.

Neither the incels nor rightoids psychology is very interesting and these topics have been stale since the breadtube era.

>>2847093
but this applies to everybody, no matter if they are nazis, liberals, feminists, communists, trots etc.

its always good when we do it.

>>2863854
lmao

the common denominator is resentment. You dont need to look too much into it. It's also why divorced fathers in their 40s-50s are likeliest to become radicalized by this new gaudy right wing.

>>2865707
Nuclear Truke

>>2847093
We give incels way too much power as the left. Our biggest enemy is the lead poisoned minds of stupid useless old boomers sitting on land speculative fortunes and voting in fascism.

>>2867706
Exactly. And these psychoanalysis were already stale in 2016 anyway.

>He just hates that HE'S not the successful man
What's a successful man? The emasculated sexless 40 year old who somehow "succeeded" because he's married?

Nokka I just want a wife without having to compete with billionaires and giga chads if that means slightly dialing women’s right back a tad I’m all for it

>>2868113
Your idea of marriage and monogamy is a western patriarchal fantasy.

I rightoid and i fully support everything Israel did and gonna do. Israel have rights to defend itself, in fact. This is what Israel do in all of it's History

>>2868155
patriarchal societies promote polygamy…

>>2868155
What if we made a polyandric society for incels where they can join harems of failgirl chudettes. They would have to cover their faces outside so people wouldn't be disgusted by their disfigured appearance for example

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>>2847501
>>2847381
TOTAL LOCALISM-LIFESTYLISM-LENINISM NOW
SOCIALISM IN ONE PERSON
HYPER SUPER ULTRA LOCALISM
EVERY MAN A LENIN
EVERY HOUSE A USSR


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