/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I guess

I don't think s. Even if something similar did happen, it would be quickly bought out by capitalism and turned into a "museum" or a "middle-class playground"

>>2852298
I remember there's this place in Copenhagen called Freetown Christiania - if syndicalism could survive in the long term, that's probably what it would look like

Unions are anti communist so no

>>2852282
The thing with syndicalism is that it doesn't have an end goal, it's essentially reformism minus the parliamentary spectacle, because reformist parties only get their actual material backing from unions not simply people voting for good ideas. I don't think syndicalism is viable for an actual protracted civil war because simply having personal firearms isn't going to cut it against a modern first world military so either Gandhi style mass strike or things gotta get so bad that the bourgeoisie can't buy out the military.

Reminder Syndicalism was the foundation from which Fascism emerged. Even the word "Fascism" traces its roots to the Italian fasci, the name used by Italian syndicalist trade unions. Fascist economics was largely built around state-controlled syndicalist organizations and labor unions.

>>2852282
>for praxis
It's not and hasn't been since firms have de-territorialized themselves. Modern unions can't exerce the same influence on firms because they fundamentally operate on different grounds : the firm exists on a global scale with intellectual and property rights, whilst unions exist on one or two sites specifically.
This means that if one firm is "overran" by a union, it can just call on its shareholders to invest more money to delocalize somewhere else. The firm isn't tied to the territory anymore.

>for an alternative social model
The ward problem shuts off the possibility of any model based on unions working well. In short, any union will just end up maximizing its own interest rather than arriving at a collectively-defined interest which implies that the same power assymetries and self-interested allocation will pop up as in capitalist societies. Mao was correct when he distinguished between whole-people ownership and workers ownership.