/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2853507
This extends from AOC to Nestor Mahkno.

I'm not an anything-ist, but ideologically I'm closest to Marxism-Leninism. That said, in person anarchists are just better company. There are obviously exceptions, but generally I'd much rather chill with anarchists than communists. I even married one.
They're still wrong, but they're fun and have valid critiques of communism.
Also the meme matrix is bad and you shouldn't have that image saved.

>"how do you feel about all these spooks?"
like they're fucking spooky m8

the political compass is garbage

>>2853677
>they're fun and have valid critiques of communism.
They're more fun to take drugs with, but their critiques of communism are not valid in the slightest

>>2853545
boomer tier interpretation of OP's question. I'm sure the new york times would love to have you.

>>2877873
the most valid criticism of communism is the human tendency to self-organize into hierarchical structures that can only be broken by military action from some other central authority. a problem bakunin recognized immediately that was marx was never able to resolve.

>>2877892
>The best critique of communism is some essentialist nonsense about humans tendencies
This is not a valid critique. You are already presupposing there's something inherently wrong with hierarchical structures

>>2877912
read marx

>>2877933
You read Marx

>>2877952
>no u
"Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat." - K. Marx

"Under collective ownership, the so-called will of the people disappears, to make way for the real will of the cooperative" - K. Marx

"When the people are beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called 'the People's Stick.'" - M. Bakunin

I'm not interested in arguing with some hasanabi hot topic socialist who doesn't even know the strengths and weaknesses of what he professes to believe.

>>2877963
When we're talking about the dictatorship of the proletariat we are talking about a period of emergency rule when classes are liquidated. This doesn't necessarily equal despotism or state violence. Secondly, when Bakunin talks about the people beaten with a stick he doesn't put forward what kind of class character the coercive power of the state would convey in Marx's view and what his alternative to proletarian emergency rule is. There's never been an anarchist revolution without the People's Stick. Bakunin doesn't actually address the contradiction and went into weird shit like participating secret societies to organize insurgencies and terror as opposed to parties which would be able to create a workers' state.

>>2877963
"Bakunin has become a monster, a huge mass of flesh and fat, and is barely capable of walking any more. To crown it all, he is sexually perverse and jealous of the seventeen year-old Polish girl who married him in Siberia because of his martyrdom. He is presently in Sweden, where he is hatching “revolution” with the Finns." - K Marx
I am not interested in people who think a fat pedophile arguing about sticks counts as a valid critique of communism. Hierarchy arises out of the social/economic conditions and can only cease to be through actual changing of those conditions, which can only be brought about with the people's stick. Change the world and change the need for hierarchical forms of social organization