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the commanding heights of the economy should be state owned. commodities essential to the survival of the society should be collectively owned by society. commodities essential to the survival of the individual should be the property of the individual who intends to use them, after they have been produced by society. production of commodities not essential to the survival of the individual can be produced by worker owned cooperatives that are limited by the state in number according to production plan, that way you don't have a whole country of people running off to make vidya games for a living when there are ores to be mined and surgeries to be performed. add in labor vouchers with a clear date of expiration and periodic decay from the date of distribution, so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts. Keep statistics on necessities so they are not produced just in time as needed, with only a small buffer surplus, to avoid the problem of food waste. Encourage frequent days off and healthcare checkups for preventative care, so that serious medical interventions are needed less often, and problems like cancer can be nipped in the bud early. If the population begins to age too much, resulting in too many retirees to take care of, while birth rates decline… fuck. I haven't figured that one out yet.

>>2855640
>so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts
meant to say misers. spendthrift means the opposite.

>add in labor vouchers with a clear date of expiration and periodic decay from the date of distribution, so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts.
Stoppes reading there, anyone that believes this is a fucking retard

>>2855688
How? Casino tickets and coupons have expiration dates, why couldn’t the same apply to vouchers?

>>2855640
I mean in the abstract everyone agrees, the problem is always getting there

Whats stalin got to do with this? He wouldve shot you for suggesting any of this.
he only cared about making le production quota line go up even if it cost the lives of millions of workers.

>>2855780
drink bleach

Congrats, you created a bigger, more alienated worker coop I hope you’re happy

>>2855803
Aww did your replacement father figure get criticized?
There, there have a couple more suckles of his rotten decomposing penis and youll be alright

>>2855780
>nooo I dont want real socialism, I'm only in it for wanking to my utopian fantasy

I/O tables are detailed matrices showing the flow of goods and services between different sectors of an economy. In a planned economy, they could be used to calculate the total amount of each input (like steel or labor-time) needed to produce a final set of goods for society. I/O tables effectively solve the problem of socialist production and exchange. Since it is proven over and over again that prices are random variables and distributed according to snlt (value) needed to produce the given thing, you can measure snlt, you can peg whatever vouchers you have to time directly and all issues about money disappear.

>>2856007
>doing the Nazi thing where you parrot a Twitter sound bite for attention

>>2855688
silvio gesell did this in the short lived bavarian soviet and it worked good

>>2855807
sounds great tbh

>>2856007
why does your flag have a pinwheel on it. are you a toddler?

>>2855998
you still would need vouchers to decay and/or expire so people don't horde them to reproduce money capital

>>2856127
You can't do M - C - M' if there is no money (medium which mystifies value). Plus the value of time-vouchers decreases as production develops, since it takes less time. But 1 hour of labor-time is still 1 hour of labor-time. More effectively you could even go down to joules to get even better measurements.

>>2855969
>do NOT imagine a better state of things
you really are a socdem

>>2856292
if labor vouchers can be hoarded and exchanged for means of production, then a neo-bourgeoisie could emerge from a cartel of labor voucher hoarders.

>>2856808
Who owns the MoP you're exchanging this "hoarded pile of labor vouchers"? And why is your Crusoe so keen on owning MoP?


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