/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

the ACP is first and foremost an aesthetic movement of art kids like the futurists or national bolshleviks It's barely an actually existing political org

They are still the most principled anti imperialists in the west

>>2855884
That just proves the west needs to be destroyed, down to the last man woman and child like in Gaza

>>2855893
>>2855884
Retards

>>2855884
>>2855893
you can be against US imperialism without being a retard

>>2856069
Counterpoint being retarded is fun

>>2856069
If you read Dugin you will understand you have to be a retard to build socialism in the west.

>>2856085
nobody is reading that shit🤣😂🤣🤣😂

>>2856062
You and the person who made this thread are infinitely more retarded. Ahistorical campist wreckers who prioritize the feelings of literal faggots over any material change. L I B E R A L at heart.

>>2856095
you an art kid who only cares about aesthetics and online larp lmao

>>2855647
It's shaped by Haz's eclecticism which mixes in some fascist adjacent stuff, but I came around to thinking they have more in common with other "ML" sects or Deprogram listeners than anyone in those sects will accept. If you isolated the social conservatism and "let's be the villains from 1984" aesthetic choices it wouldn't appear that different to normies who don't know anything about this stuff.

This isn't a defense, it's more of an indictment of that broader subculture. And a lot of the people who join these groups also develop their politics online through memes. I went to a meeting once by an unrelated group (they were turbo woke actually, ultra-left in character + Turtle Island stuff, you know stuff the ACP hates, also they no longer exist but they would've warred with the ACP) and they had this presentation that was like full-on multipolarity, here's a list of "great leaders" around the world and there are just pics of Xi, Maduro, Lula, AMLO, and also Bukele for some reason. I can't remember if Putin was up there, but I was like what fucking drugs are these people doing, but for whatever reason they were on some anti-imperialist Bukele meme. Didn't even know that was a thing. It was just strange. It really bummed me out though. But it really wasn't that different. Same with the emphasis on "mutual aid."

>>2856085
>If you read Dugin you will understand you have to be a retard to build socialism in the west.
explain why. dumb it down for me, since being retarded is necessary, explain to me why it is like I already am. no i'm not gonna read the nazbol wizard. i already read his work Fascism: Borderless and Red and it was pseud BULLSHIT

>>2856154
> here's a list of "great leaders" around the world and there are just pics of Xi, Maduro, Lula, AMLO, and also Bukele for some reason.
wtf

>>2856154
They probably like Bukele because he was a leftist initialy

>>2856231
Americans retarded
Russians kinda retarded
Dugin retard wrangler while himself be retard
Invert his retarded idealism to retarded materialism
Apply it to a dumbed down form of ML thought.
Congrats you became based retard that brought communism to land of retards.

haz claimed to have extracted rthe rational kernal from dugin's thought and applied it to marx

CPUSA is a billion times worse then ACP by the simple fact that they support democrats and u.s imperialism and don't have any local seats.

>>2855884
PSL

There's no reason people should take Hazites and modern "social reactionary" MLs seriously.
These people are Nazis or at least NazBols playing coy and should be laughed at or dealt with like anyone else on the extreme right.
They entire goal is to infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside. Stop going along with their bullshit and treating them like serious actors who deserve a serious analysis.

>>2855882
Yh. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that it can be summarised as “Logo_Daedalus thought: The party”

So ofc they would adopt the LARP aestheticism and fondness for capeshit-style mythos about geopolitics.

Granted, I do think they use dumb tactics (such as how, in response to anti-Stalinist critiques, they erroneously turned Stalin into a tradcon orthobro as opposed to arguing that he was just a dictator of a newly-fleshed war-torn country that had the task of expanding the proletarian struggle elsewhere), but they did have some legit points such as the notion that concerns of the American proletariat are valid.

>>2856417
Western "marxists" be like:
"I disagree with this national socialist party on many points, especially the mysticism and larp, but the fascism part is valid"

>>2855647
>>2856367
>>2856369
>A Menshevik, eurocom and Marcyite walk into a bar…
You lack complexity and demonstrate naivite. The following quantitative methodology thread will help improve your material analysis, for you are missing connections as demonstrated by your sentences.
Read in full before replying: >>2758817

The worst part of the CPUSA is that they are loyal slaves of the Democrats and you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.

>>2856369
>PSL
I used to think so to but they pussied out big time by condemning the SMO in Ukraine.

>>2856375
>infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside
What "leftism" in America exists to infiltrate you fucking retard? Your shitty little Twitter clique? Your subreddit? Name even one organization that matters, that has achieved anything in half a century. There is nothing to destroy.

>>2856569
u jus big mad that ppl dont take you seriosuly cuz why tf would they