In 2017 when Jason Kessler launched the biggest white nationalist rally in the US in a very long time, with 1,500 people attending, it got violently interrupted by counterprotests. Afterwards, the Daily Stormer got kicked from its hosting and didn't find a stable host until 6 months later in February 2018 when they settled with Eranet and Bitmitigate. In 2017, the alt-right was lead by Richard Spencer. Lots has changed since, but in the end, it didn't kill the fringe right it only slowed down their progress by a few years. In 2017, the percent of neo-nazis in America was 9% but alt-right was 10%. In 2021, that number grew after the January 6 protests. More people started supporting the rioters. But yet while the alt-right did die off after the Atomwaffen-Satan drama in early 2018 after that Kiwi Farms thread was created and somebody took screenshots from the BowlPatrol discord server, and the Ricky Vaughn drama that would happen later over TRS 504um. In 2018, so much happened. First the cuckboxing, then Alex Jones getting banned from YouTube. Google rolled out its biggest ever crackdown on "extremist content" in August 2017 after Charlottesville with Jared Taylor's video "race differences in intelligence" getting put in a limited state first. But recently, people have simply adapted to Google's algorithm and YouTube is starting to look a lot like it did in 2016 during the election cycle before the crackdowns. Arthur Kwon-Lee, Jiang Xueqin, and many others are talking openly about the J00s, and comment sections simply use words that don't trigger the algorithm. It's like Google simply abandoned their initial censorship. Videos no longer get put in limited states like they used to, and more alt-right content is flourishing. Antifa? I haven't heard from them in a while. You would expect heavier resistance against ICE, but yet that was reserved mostly for the early Trump presidency. I don't hear from them no more hardly. There are #NoKings protests, but the left is nowhere near as radical as they used to be back in the 2010s. I think the second Trump administration basically cracked down on all of them.
>>2858542
left wing of the bourgeoisie maybe
Based on the image, they look like they won atherosclerosis
>>2858534> the Atomwaffen-Satan drama in early 2018 after that Kiwi Farms thread was created and somebody took screenshots from the BowlPatrol discord server, and the Ricky Vaughn drama that would happen later over TRS 504um. In 2018, so much happened. First the cuckboxingbrainrot sentence
>>2858534I'm assuming you guys just saw that patriot front rally in DC, right?
its actually fucking crazy how these faggots are not only still about, but growing stronger everyday. this typa stuff is going mainstream, and the the only left wing alternative we have is fucking woke retarded Jewish niggers and social justice warriors. i wish there was a way make our own ideology popular, but now everyone has already associated us with neopronouns "demigenderism", I will forever hate these liberal faggots with all my heart, I wish I could transport to an alterntaive universe where I could off these faggots by the hundreds of thousands an NKVD agent
>>2858751Maybe we can't gain any ground because people like you scare everyone off communism
the ground of bourgeois society is dissolving beneath its feet and you will die without having cured your personal deficiencies even if you are materially comfortable for the duration of your lives. hard to say if it had to be this way or not.
>>2858754>>2858754in awe of who? the libs or the fashes?
>>2858756you think I go around advertising communism as some kind of pol potist "kill everyone" ideology to the average libs?? believe me buddy, i've done my fair share of political "preaching" or whatever you call it for someone my age. I'm not saying I'm giving up, I know we have ta duty to keep going, to "make the apple fall ourselves" or whatever, but I'm allowed to express frustration. the PR and image from the libs has negatively affected us so much, whereas the right wingers can soft launch their bullshit "noticing" and other propaganda to 15 year olds on insta reels and those douchebag will eat it up. this was just a rant on a niche website where everyone I know has some kind of radical belief, and wont be "scared" off. not to mention this is also a shitposting site.
all I'm saying is, from a PR perspective, it'll take God knows how long to distinguish ourselves from the pronoun warrior libfags. and as if that wasn't enough, now we have a wave of third world plundering welfare capitalists who call themselves demsocs ( every single American is convinced the mamdanis are the definition of communism) and now we have to deal with them too???
>>2858795it's bleak man and there's no guarantee but we gotta be hopeful for people and people should get a rude awakening by the economy when they're out of school. though many don't
>>2858751I see a headline every few months where it's patriot front or some other group waving around swastikas and walking down the street and all I think is why doesn't someone do something about this?
The problem is that we don't have a real movement, what groups do we have? What websites do we actually control? All social media are controlled by right wingers and it's not subtle at all. A lot of supposedly "left wing" discourse on those sites is just about trans rights or other idpol nonsense. There is barely any discussion for actual communists. What other sites beside this even exist that people can organize on? Sure there's some but they're small and pathetic. We need to carve out our own corner of the internet. The alt-right won because they controlled the flow of information. They have had so much money to work with it's insane. From shit like the daily wire inorganically rising to the top to now nick fuentes being promoted on social media so much that even random normies are familiar with him. They have endless pockets for marketing. It's not a coincidence that you hear so much about random kick streamers and shit nobody should reasonably care about, it's all coordinated. We need our own spots, our own wealthy donators. The fact that the propaganda mill for the right is so massive and yet there are still communists out there is proof that we have something real, our message resonates with people even with shitty advertising. We just need coordinated marketing campaigns. The average person has it in there best interest to be anti-capitalist, it's something that most of the population should be able to relate to. They just don't know it yet because we haven't done anything to tell them.
The main point is that we're lacking coordination and we never really evolved for the internet age. We need a good marketing plan and a fuck ton of money.
>>2858906
You can’t even get jews to agree on what they want for dinner, let alone a world spanning conspiracy. The fact that every jewish stereotype is applied to igbo in nigeria and Chinese in southeast asia should tell you something.
>>2858929
Jews who are zionist suck and should die, jews that aren’t zionist are fine, even if it’s only 2% of them
>>2858534The alt right didn’t win, antisemitism is just growing. It’s more a symbol of stupid Americans dislike for Israel than any victory made by neonazis.
>>2858866The biggest flaw with the far right/alt right movements is that they punish their own followers economically in the long term. Look at milei in Argentina, look at Paz in Bolivia. They have great marketing teams yes but as everyone has noticed it's completely astroturfed and that same inorganic marketing coupled with the disappointed generated from the failure of bringing tangible results except for endless waves of inflation and ultra-austerity, is what leads some people to become anti-capitalist at the very least. That's where left movements need to focus on
>>2858727how come he gets TWO rewards
>>2859030The DC fireworks.
>>2859038I read plenty. I also have standards and I know that the internet is a low-quality shithole where any asshole can make shit up, so I’m not gonna trust some random asshole’s word.
Some dickshit’s ramblings on the internet are supposed to be proof? Neat, I can go to the street corner, listen to a crackhead rant, and come away with shit that’s just as trustworthy
nobody cares
take this shit to usapol
>>2858751my brother in Marx the left went past the identity politics social justice craze, you're a decade too late with these talking points
Thread from 2017.
>>2858751Post from 2018.
#uncoccupiedthread #uncaintright #oldbeautiful lady😍🥰
>>2859096It went from that to nonexistence
>>2858751>I wish I could transport to an alterntaive universe where I could off these faggots by the hundreds of thousands an NKVD agentthis is why people won't associate with your politics btw
>>2858795you might think your genocidal impulses are hidden from the world but i'm willing to bet that a lot more of it comes through than you would like to think
>>2858866>The main point is that we're lacking coordination and we never really evolved for the internet age. We need a good marketing plan and a fuck ton of money.not my job to educate you, chuddie
>>2858866>>2858795>>2858534Yes and no
Yes, things have gotten worse as the fascists consolidate power and this will only get worse until AI and climate change starts genociding the global north after killing everyone else.
No, the "left" hasn't changed; it's equally milquetoast in it's response to fascism and bourgies were never on our side.
I think the real solution is permaculture and lucid dreaming as opposed to proselytizing a specific ideology and I'm guessing you're already doing the former.
And TBH, I am also supportive of reform on the local level, because that is, evidently, the only level where you can change anything (And I mean on the level of individual towns and neighborhoods).
Glowie thread
Patriot Front in the US Capital (Washington D.C.)
They seem to be very disciplined and organised, from the metro cards, to the shields and uniforms, almost paramilitary like. But it is likely to be unpopular with the public, relative to the overly militant image, however like other fascist groups, have done propaganda around aid.
The American Left should continue to focus on legal means, such as elections and national political organisations, like the DSA as the largest example, and smaller ones like PSL or CPUSA (who should be absorbed). This neo-kautskyist or leninist method of socialism through democratic means, seems to be a slow but sure method.
However black bloc tactics clearly do not work in the west, or other civic tactics against the fascists.
You Americans, are privileged to have a level of freedom, that would allow you to form similar uniformed organisation(s) (separate from the likes of the DSA, PSL, CPUSA).
There exists a few left gun clubs, like the John Brown Club and Socialist Rifle Association, who educate on firearms training and also do mutual aid; but at the least these groups could be mirror uniformed organisations, just as disciplined, to the patriot front, standing opposite them, just as a threat without committing any action, and if shit goes down, they are not the first to fire or bludgeon.
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