What would be a Marxist critique of sex and human sexuality?
Sexual lust is a stain on civilization. It destroys communities, promotes selfishness and furthers the idea that human beings are worthy only insofar as they provide pleasure or “usefulness” to the other. One can clearly see the link between the normalization of sexual lust and eugenics for this reason. It also causes social instability and moral decay.
Non-sexual love is about what you give to the other person, lust is about what you mindlessly take from the other person.
So far, the only philosophers and thinkers I’ve seen who thoroughly critique human sexuality are either ancient and medieval thinkers, or modern-day right-wingers who rely on said ancient/medieval critiques. Where are all the Marxist critique of sexual lust and what a massively destructive force it is? Marxism needs to promote the idea sex is solely for the act of procreation and mutual pleasure between monogamous partners. It is because our modern society is ruled by lust that we see vast amounts of moral decay. Moral relativism is everywhere. Secularism and capitalism have destroyed any sense of virtue. Desire to take from others sexually has made these things almost impossible to fight against.
Marxism must critique sexuality and promote sexual abstinence and purity.(Excessive reactoid retardation)
69 posts and 6 image replies omitted.>>2859828It's all the same Neo-conservative incel bullshit by using ancient writers to couch their beliefs in something "Historical". And I don't give a dam about Jewish philosophy. It's all of the same Abrhamic bullshit. And I'm not going to take anything by Zionists like him seriously because Zionists and the nation of Israel at large ultimately are Europeans LARPing as ancient Hebrews.
>>2859852>>2859856So the problem isn't sex, the problem is the internet, porn and video games killing the desire for IRL social activity.
When will the left be ready to have that conversation? 2050?
>>2859862No it's because things like Bars, Sex, IRL Social activity is generally much more expensive and risky than simply going on the internet or playing video games. We have become a risk-averse society because of these things.
>>2859862you say it's a problem, others may disagree. my gut feeling is that new and novel forms of IRL socialisation will spring up and pad the gap. less "everyone in the same town goes to the one kinda-crap club because there's nothing else to do" and more like a rolling series of furry microconventions. (e.g. ad-hoc stuff based on shared if occasionally only vaguely overlapping interests and symbiotic personality types.)
the left is probably missing a trick in setting stuff like this up given its rising popularity and people's love of labelling themselves and doing things to affirm that label. less cultish
communist parties, more communist
parties…
>>2859860So you're not going to respond to his actual arguments and are just going to poison the well?
>>2859871Why? Like these posts say:
>>2859125>>2858914>>2859055 >>2859057His BS is nothing but reactionary crap and is not worth responding to. Touch grass, you incel and stop being such a spooked moralist.
>>2860003>sexual commodificationDo not forget that prostitution is "the oldest job in the world", while also serving a sacred function of initiation. We read in The Epic of Gilgamesh (2000 BCE) for example, that the Temple prostitute initiates Enkidu into his own humanity by laying with him for 9 days. Here, sexual practice holds a revered place, and is not as yet a mere transfer of resources.
>>2858932Has there ever been a successful scoialist nation with state imposed arranged marriage?
>>2860007The real oldest job is farming
>>2860007Read Engels Origin, prostitution did not exist until private property.
There were plenty of real jobs people did before then farming, hunting, gathering.
Prostitution is one of the oldest forms of exploitation it is not work.
>>2860003Suprisingly based anarcho bullshit
>>2860024>it is not workYes it is…
>>2860024>prostitution did not exist until private propertyThere's evidence of prostitution in animals, man.
All this thread is christian guilt, people are having LESS sex than ever.
>>2860003Again, you are just like a incel. Feminists and incels are equally spooked by sex. You are just like trad LARPers.
Incels and Feminists have serious psychosexual hangups and are just using communisim as a asthetic to be a bunxh of control freaks about sex because they can't get any.
TL;DR Stop believing in reheated puritan spooks. God is not real, touch grass.
>>2860034You don't have to believe in God to be a sexual puritan.
>>2858859>Capitalism is making me rape peopleWhy are you like this?
Didn’t Stalin and Mao have loads of sexual affairs with women?
>>2860172Most men with significant power seem to have extramarital affairs. In fact I would argue having multiple women as sex partners makes a man more respected generally.
>>2860003> "pro-sex work Marxism" Doesnt exist. The origins of this stuff lays in twitter 'discourse' between useless and reprehensible amerikkkans. This isn't a real position
>'sex work'Useless term that only exists for liberals to obscure. Say what you mean.
>>2860020Actually it's toolmaker
>>2860189(One of those tools being sex toys)
>>2858817sex is reactionary
>>2858817kill yourself redfash
>>2860028Liberal
Sucking dick is not work.
Jacking off on camera is not work.
If everyone jacked off on camera as their "job" we wouldn't have any food or infrastructure.
>>2860031Dont humans want to elevate to higher society than that of mere animal?
Humans no longer club women over the head from different tribes, race them then hold them captive to bting in more humans.
Having to have sex for sustenance is a form of slavery to that of the flesh and the exploiter.
>>2860203If everyone was a journalist like Marx we would also have nothing.
>>2860204Genuine question anon (no offense), but have you ever had a sexual partner? Why is unlimited sex within a monogamous relationship immoral? I agree that promiscuity is immature, but surely depravity is acceptable between loyal partners?
>>2860233I have a girlfriend.
We have sex its not immoral. Im not schizo OP
>>2858817Sex is reactionary.
>>2858817The traditional Christian critique of sex mixes very well with Marxism. Christianity demands total celibacy, and you only get married if you can’t remain celibate. The Church Fathers also hated sex and birth control because they said it turned marriage into a relationship of prostitution.
Go to Church OP
>>2859837Having had lots of casual sex. I don't feel "emotionally damaged" nor do the people I've been with (who are much the same as me).
>>2860802
She said she held off on coming forward because she agrees with Platner’s politics.
If iI'm not mistaken there were strains of anti-sexual-libertinism during the Stalinist era so that might be a source to consider.
I'm curious though, as a materialist where does your conviction for the inherent dignity of each human life come from?
Also, doesn't it seem most likely that the allegations against Platner are simply the existing power structure trying to thwart a potential populist challenge? Similar to the onslaught of flimsy allegations and tortured legal claims brought against Trump.
>>2858817>cites Plato and Maimonides>defends circumcisionNo.
Consent is key and consent as a societal framework becomes much more robust under socialism.
Average marxist
>>2861007Ok I'm taking a piss don't be mad
>>2861007Marxists oppose sex?
>>2858895>Thomas Aquinas was practically an anarcho-communist.Source? Everything I know about him implies a deep level of classism towards the poor
>>2861013It's bullshit.
There's a reason the Catholic Church has always hated Liberation Theology.
>>2860301
That entire video is a /pol/ meme.
>>2858817Look up the Islamic critique of sex, OP.
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