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I have come to a serious realization.

The essence of communism is not the nationalization of the means of production. That is a byproduct of a more fundamental change in society.

The essence of communism is the government directly controlling labor i.e. people.

>besides the point, but interesting video you should check out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZN8hmkSZU

A new government telling YOU to what to work on and where to work, given your capabilities and resources in the rest of society.
And this is objectively Good if the new government is Good.

This is a core redpill that is too hard to swallow for retards and normies. Those who understand need to evangelize the commie sigma grindset because the human capital for communism is very rare. That mindset is the Hive-mind. Broken people reject the hive-mind when it is an unavoidable prerequisite for communism. We will not be able to build communism with people broken and alienated by crapitalism. As crapistalism turns even worse, more and more of the entreprolecariat will gnosticpill themselves. The result is nihilism for the wealth accumulators and suicide for the rest. It will be a total dark age because human development and the divine reaching for the stars is possible only through social practice of actual vigor. All the good people are dying and returning to the pleroma. There are fewer and fewer people left to make communism work.

We will not see communism come back anytime soon because those that can do it, won't.
<revisionism, dirigism, human rights etc.
And those that will do it, will be evil.
<Palantir, the Reptile, etc.

It truly is blackpilling just how far down the drain conditions for revolution are right now.

>Give me some worthy hopium leftychuds.

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>>2860700
damn i wish i could read math

respectful disagree. The redpill is that man changes his relationship to the world, maybe even to Being. It's mostly elaborated in the 1844 manuscripts which were only rediscovered in the 1920's.

You call it hivemind, but it's humanity when not alienated from its essence (gemeinwesen).

>>2860702
The math is hard to read because it is vector math. However the concept is interesting and how it relates to GDP calculations.

GDP as a metric sucks because it ignores inputs that have no price but are important for everything else. They have no price in a communist economy because they never enter the retail sector and are not traded therefore not counted. At least that is my important takeaway from that video. The economies of big empires are much larger than the economists let you believe.

>>2860707
The bad men are changing the world in a bad way leading to the reproduction of bad conditions leading to further bad people. Dialectics 101.

>>2860707
>gemeinwesen
Ok, that is what I refer to hive-mind because as Academic Agent taught me, what matters is the definition of a word TODAY. So hive-mind is when people share a common goal etc. and is actively villainized by the finance bros and entrepreneur worshippers.

flood
>God gubmint controlling you in the name of the Greater Good
>Uhh what if the normies kafirs are all dumb sheeple???
>Manichean dichotomies
>Good, Evil
Go to church

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>>2860721
The churches are ran by the reptiles

>>2860724
Caught you PAPIEZ

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>>2860726
>Caught you PAPIEZ

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You need to stop thinking there is some higher power that will come and tell everyone what they REALLY OUGHT to be doing as though they’re the adults in the room. Command economies are a fools errand. Distribute power as evenly as possible in as direct a democracy as possible and use government only to create a more democratic company or industry in the worst cases. I laid out these issue more in detail in my socialism v capitalism v communism thread, but no system can be controlled completely and incorruptibly.

>>2860700
So we're not getting healthcare? Oh well.

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>>2860829
>no system can be controlled completely and incorruptibly.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

<The Marxist doctrine is omnipotent because it is true. It is comprehensive and harmonious, and provides men with an integral world outlook irreconcilable with any form of superstition, reaction, or defence of bourgeois oppression. It is the legitimate successor to the best that man produced in the nineteenth century, as represented by German philosophy, English political economy and French socialism.

Nah communism is the enablement of the community to take care of itself

>>2860834
No we're not. Israel will be getting that.
We are getting mass surveillance instead.

>>2860851
The oppression under communism doesn’t come from the bourgeois, but from the politicians.

>>2860700
>The essence of communism is the government directly controlling labor i.e. people.
How did you get it completely backwards? Communism is labor controlling the government(the DoTP???) not the other way around.

>>2860893
Labor is mostly a disorganized majority. The government is an organized minority. Even in cases of populaf majority hegemony, a vanguard appeared to steer the majority. The more organized group leads. Also, let's stop pretending that historical AES governments did not give form to the labor movements in their countries. Even Iran with their Basij does the same.

>>2860715
I mean hey, if that's the word you like to use. I don't think you can honestly say, though, that it doesn't have a negative connotation in the western psyche. Gemeinwesen, however, is the explicit Marxian term which I believe has been articulated by Bordiga others in his vein, and has its own delicate German connotation and etymology.

If you have spare time consult these…ah I see he does mention 'community' a lot in the manuscripts but among the most powerful is the one more on point with hivemind'. The text is 'estranged labor' and the term is 'Gattungswesen' or 'species-being'. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm mandatory reading for leftypol in general

>>2860947
I'll read it.
And yes it does have a negative connotation. Either you are viewed as naïve, a fool, or an opressor authority figure. Atomized individuals are on the entrepreneur worship train and they aren't getting off.

>>2860724
we live rent free in your head


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