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>responsible for the success of the bourgeois revolutions
>responsible for the success of socialist revolutions
Why are peasants so fucking based??

>nooo it was because of the intellectuals!

These eggheads would have done SHIT on their own.
>nooo the bourgeois revolution succeeded because of the bourgeoise!
They are like Americans who swoop in in the last minute to reap the rewards.
>nooo the socialist revolution succeeded because of the proletarians!
Same mistake.

I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha. You can’t get cucked for this long without turning into King Von.

Power to the third estate!
Down with the nobles.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/winstanley/index.htm

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*votes for hitler*

>>2865944
Chad leftcom peasants keep winning

The french revolution mostly happened in Paris only tho, the average peasant living in the south didn't give a shit about it

>>2865949
they peasants literally forced the national assembly to abolished feudal privileges

>>2865938
I would argue the black death was the real cause. It killed half of europe, doubled artisan wages, halved agricultural production, and immediately pushed Europe into a peasant rebellion lead by Wat Tyler, beginning the decline of serfdom in England, and beginning the long path to Capitalism and Industrial Revolution. These are the actual base changes. King Edward III tried to freeze wages at pre-plague levels, but since nobody could live off of such wages in a depleted labor market with less agricultural output and more expensive crops, it was effectively unenforceable and just triggered more political crises.

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>>2865949
there were actually a lot of counter-revolutionary peasants who wanted to reinstate the ancien regime. and in North/South America there was even a few instances where slaves sided with the monarchy against the bourgeoisie.

>>2866004
>and immediately pushed Europe into a peasant rebellion lead by Wat Tyler
pushed England* sorry

>>2866004
>doubled artisan wages, halved agricultural production, and immediately pushed Europe into a peasant rebellion lead by Wat Tyler, beginning the decline of serfdom in England, and beginning the long path to Capitalism and Industrial Revolution.
Yes and no - while it is true that wages increased under the "golden age" of the plague (how condescending), it only equalised between day labourers and demesne workers around a century later, where the composite wage was transformed into a money wage (alongside individual accounts for workers, beginning at the beginning of the 15th century). The individuality of labour and its full cash payment offers the managerial structure of workers:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014498324000524
Wat Tyler's Peasant Rebellion (1381) was also largely due to the taxation imposed from the government for the Hundred Years' War (1337–1453), although there was a certain moral idealism in the cause, but most especially from the preacher John Ball (1381):
<When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cast_off_the_Yoke_of_Bondage
This Christian Socialism extends to Winstanley later on (1649-52):
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/winstanley/index.htm
Attributing the cause of the decline of serfdom to the Rebellion is a noce thought, but I'm not sure this can be said, exactly. The state did not submit to the demands, but tax collection was softened. In Ellen Meiksins Wood's book "The Origin of Capitalism" (1999), she writes of how the transition from feudalism to capitalism is poorly explained by basically every writer; most of whom propose a "commercialisation" model, that the market was 'liberated' and capitalism proceeded automatically. The "Commercial Revolution" is written about in Lopez's 1973 book, but this only spans from [950-1350 CE], after which there is a decline of commerce, the same as what Marx writes - that capitalism cannot be causal of commerce:
<In Italy, where capitalistic production developed earliest, the dissolution of serfdom also took place earlier than elsewhere. […] When the revolution of the world-market, about the end of the 15th century, annihilated Northern Italy’s commercial supremacy, a movement in the reverse direction set in. The labourers of the towns were driven en masse into the country, and gave an impulse, never before seen, to the petite culture, carried on in the form of gardening.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch26.htm
<In the pre-capitalist stages of society commerce ruled industry. In modern society the reverse is true. 
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch20.htm
Of course, after the Hundred Years' War, we soon get the War of the Roses (1455-87) which sees the Tudors come to power, and Marx begins the history of Primitive Accumulation here. So then, the period between 1380 and 1480 is ambiguous, but it is what lays the ground work for capitalism. Marx offers correlatives on the topic:
<The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins, signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulation. On their heels treads the commercial war of the European nations, with the globe for a theatre. It begins with the revolt of the Netherlands from Spain, assumes giant dimensions in England’s Anti-Jacobin War, and is still going on in the opium wars against China, &c.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch31.htm
I would be willing to see the Peasant Rebellion as an historical turning point, but I don't think it is a direct cause of capitalism.

Everyone should be a peasant

>>2866004
>>2866025
I'm reading this rn and Perry Anderson says the feudal mode of production was already in a general crisis prior to the arrival of the black death

>>2866034
we will be again soon enough if anyone survives the next couple decades

There were three reasons the bourgeoisie gained power and the peasantry didn't even make the top ten.
>Number 3: Double account bookkeeping.
>Number 2: The check, bill & the letter of exchange enabling settlement cycles.
>Number 1: The manufacture and proliferation of the firearm and training manuals which enabled autonomous zones inside cities (aka burgers) 🍔🍔🍔 They even talk about this in the Communist Manifesto lol!

>>2865938
Because they were the most numerous?

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>I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha.

that shit was mostly fake thoughbeit and used by lords as propaganda towards one another

only girugamesh in the epic did it, and he was confronted for it by giga enkidu


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