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My dad is a SocDem(the welfare capitalist kind) tankie. He has tons of books defending the Soviet Union. Try to criticize the Soviets and he would say the CIA have brainwashed you. He makes us celebrate Stalin's birthday every year, and he wholeheartedly believes that Stalin was secretly a social democrat. Every year on 9/11, he complains that the fall of the USSR was a bigger tragedy but doesn't get treated as such at all by the media. He doesn't like communism tho.

Sounds pretty based. Words are wind, in his heart where it matters he is a communist

>>2867840
>My dad is a SocDem(the welfare capitalist kind) tankie. He has tons of books defending the Soviet Union.

Is your Dad for state ownership of the economy on a state capitalist basis? [Silly question if bait, but politics tends to invite strange views].

>>2867840
He lacks the imagination to see an industrial wageless, classless society without commodity production. Could even start supporting nationalists is he sees the class society in danger.

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average anglo ml

>>2867840
This is the expected endpoint of ML/socdem thought. Transcending the logic of commodities and capital is unthinkable so you simply ratchet up the power of the party-state to try and keep capitalism in check.

>>2867887
You literally cannot transcend commodity production within the confines of the nation state or even a group of nation states. This is like shitting on a worker coop because they still have wages.

>Dad is a socdem and enjoyed a soc dem nation like the USSR
K, KEEP ME POSTED

>>2867896
USSR was socdem only in two periods, the NEP, then under Perestroika and Glasnost

>>2867898
What bout Kosygin market reforms?

>>2867840
Your dad is Losurdo

>>2867846
>in his heart where it matters he is a communist
<in his heart where it matters
No you massive retard, that's exactly where it doesn't matter.
All that matters are his actions politically.

>>2867889
>He doesn't shit on worker co-ops

>>2867840
So your dad is a bog-standard modern "marxist-leninist" then.

if only all MLs were as honest as your dad

>>2868044
MLMs may have better and more consistent politics on paper, but PPW is a failing strategy as of this moment, the one time MLMs did take power was in Nepal where they were forced at gunpoint by the CPC and INC to do liberal nonsense and that led directly to last year’s color revolution there

>>2868032
When the alternative is nothing I take the something

>>2867840
count yourself lucky. my dad is an autistic lib failson from a bourgeois family who got a woman (my mother) way younger than him pregnant because he really believed her when she said she couldn't get pregnant. neither of them bothered to raise me and my relationship with them is more one of distant and vague friendship than a typical child-parent relationship.

your daddy might make you worship stalin but at least you were raised with a value system of some sort. I had to discover socialism on my own.


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