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Stop being dishonest about certain things, like how the left has enjoyed dominance for 60-70 years. Which has lead to the collapse of society. But we'll pretend you guys did not have domiance for 70 yeras.

We are opposed to the liberals running western governments just as much as you are
you must be new here

>>2873928
I am new, I told the nazi's I'll spread National Bolshevism all over. I plan on going to Asia to do this.

>>2873925
Dominance in what?

Clearly not because you still exist

>>2873925
>the left has enjoyed dominance for 60-70 years.
define what you mean by "the left" because depending on who you talk to it means wildly different things

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>>2873931
>nazi's
transhumanist

If you wanna raid leftypol more effectively then I suggest using the leftcom flag and saying the exact same retarded shit, it'll take much longer to get banned that way.


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>>2873925
Sure FDR ushered in socialism, but then neoliberals clawed it back. Lately the neocons (Trots) heroically fought back so it's up in the air now.

>>2873940
the old ones were like that and the new ones are like the right. a lot of the time.
>>2873934

neoliberals is what I meant
l>>2873945
I think we all should become National Bolsheviks, that was the main ideological enemy of the Natinal Socialists.

>>2873948
Neoliberals? so Reaganites? That's what you think left means?

>Nazbol

that shit didn't exist until the 1990s. It was a fringe right deviationist reaction to the collapse of the USSR. You seem to confuse the patriotism of the USSR against the nazis as some kind of "national bolshevism" but it has nothing to do with the actual ideology created by Dugin and Limonov in the 1990s.

>>2873940
I support 79 year old Communist Cuban grandmothers who worked to destroy illiteracy. I don't care what looks cool.

>the left has enjoyed dominance for 60-70 years
<What does he mean by this? The USSR? or Foucault? Laclau and Mouffe? Judith Butler? The post 1968 zeitgei-
>neoliberals is what I meant
Ah yes, we all love privatization and destroying labor unions here. God bless Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman, the most powerful foot soldiers of leftism.

>>2873942
lol

>>2873948
>>2873956
>>2873963
Does liberalism even exist? I remember ᴉuᴉlossnW writing that liberalism was once hyped for a couple of years and was subsequently raped by more serious ideologies.
Weren't the so-called progressives in the West all red cultural Marxists?
The only unironic liberals were in Russia, but even now, due to globalization, they have died out and been replaced by the usual right vs. left

>>2873964
>red cultural Marxists
Did you wake up from a ten year long coma? I haven't heard this one since 2016.
Give us a couple of examples of "red cultural Marxists", I wanna be entertained.

>Does liberalism even exist?

This question deserves as much time as you are willing to think on it, and articulate your thoughts on it.

There is the very easy answer: yes it does. Look at the New York Times. Look at Macron, Friedrich Merz or Merkel before him, Brussels, Hilary Clinton.
Both culturally and economically, it is liberalism: the State is there to insure capital flows can circulate more or less freely, to foster business interests, reproduce its own wealth, but need to set some limits with the law, judicial decisions (e.g. Ponzi schemes are bad for the economy in the long run, so they need to be curbed before they spread too fast), cops (eco-activist shenanigans are also not good for business), various state intervention in the economy in the form of subsides, but also culturally, in the form of secularism (even if the values of most liberals in Europe and North America are Christian-coded), some form of "equality in front of the law", which is very important for the liberal narrative, when it comes notably to women's rights, ethnic minorities' rights, or sometimes conversely it takes the form of some kind of positive discrimination, in order to make everyone comfortable as an economic agent, worker or capitalist entrepreneur.

The thing, liberalism has never been ideologically pure, like most ideologies.
There is perhaps a kernel of pure liberalism somewhere to be found in books, but when you say:
>they have died out and been replaced by the usual right vs. left
The "usual right vs. left" is 90% of the time liberalism, depending on your definition.
We are all children of the liberal revolutions of England, America and France, the liberal and republican ideology of the Enlightenment, John Locke and Adam Smith, the 17th and 18th centuries (even Marxists and anarchists).
You can say there has been a rise of "illiberal liberalism" in the past decade, a form of liberalism which doesn't fully embrace all the humanist aspects of the doctrine, and make cute liberals sometime look like mini-Pinochets. But it's just a capitalist state favoring business interests, because it has to.

Sorry if my response is being vague and bit disorganized, but I have no choice as your question is extremely vague to begin with. You don't elaborate on what is your idea of "liberalism" in pure terms.

>>2873940
>Ur trnny
You must be at least 18 to post here

>>2873956 National Bolshevism orginated in germany in the 1910s-20s limonov and dugin were revisionists(even more so than paetel in terms of marxism) who hijacked the term for their ultranationalist fetish. but they werent the main ideological enemy not even like the third lmao

>>2874035
He's not trans, he's just a degenerate.

>>2873925
>the left is when not-Nazis
Ok retard

>>2873948
>neoliberals are leftists
Neoliberals are explicitly and loudly anti-left, they say it themselves. Stop being a twitter-brained retard.

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>like how the left has enjoyed dominance for 60-70 years
>you guys did not have domiance for 70 yeras.
You’re illiterate.

THE LEFT IS WHEN I DON’T WANT TO FUCK BALDUR’S GATE CHARACTERS

op is one of those culture war retards who thinks “elite” is when you have a college degree

>>2873925
Op is a brown gay mexican behind that computer

No. Socially yes, but that doesn't have a big impact on our current economy.

>>2874059
Rightoids think that means yes because they’re retarded enough to be culturalists
>durr muh politics is downstream from culture
And other vibes-y woo-woo bullshit they believe

>>2874053
THE LEFT IS WHEN I CAN BECOME A WOMAN

>>2874061
The right is when you can't stop thinking about tr*nny cock


Cope about how the last century of capitalism and nationalism has doomed humanity to extinction

>Which has lead to the collapse of society
Would you consider WW2 a collapse of society, or no?

>>2873931
>NazBol
Limonov had sex with homeless black men in New York, and the obsession with BBC continues into today's neo-nazi movement, so praxis, I guess?

>>2873925
you are retarded.

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what's amazing to me is, even after like 50 years, even amongst younger generations born in the 90s or 2000s, this picture is still the typical american's conception of the left vs the right.

>>2874191
incorrect the nazi's are here zzzchan.xyz/fascist/index.html

>>2874052
you're retarded

>>2874039
provide some primary sources on TRVE nazbol then

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>>2874399
Suck start a shotgun, illiterate dimwit

>>2874481
oh no I didn't spell a word correctly, I saw it was incorrect but didn't bother correcting it. Get over yourself faggot.
>>2874470
https://archive.org/stream/PaetelNationalBolshevistManifesto/Paetel%20-%20The%20National%20Bolshevist%20Manifesto%20%281933%29_djvu.txt

>>2874046
that is not what I had said retard


>>2874539
https://ia800809.us.archive.org/17/items/PaetelNationalBolshevistManifesto/Paetel%20-%20The%20National%20Bolshevist%20Manifesto%20%281933%29.pdf


The manifesto positions itself against both Western liberal capitalism—identified with parliamentary decadence and economic exploitation—and Soviet-style communism, which Paetel criticizes for its internationalism and subordination to Moscow. Instead, he advocates for a specifically German path to socialism, rooted in national identity and geopolitical independence.


At the heart of Paetel’s argument is the claim that the German proletariat and nationalist youth share a common enemy in the liberal-capitalist order imposed after the Treaty of Versailles. He envisions a revolutionary alliance that would overthrow this order and establish a form of state socialism oriented toward national revival. Unlike orthodox Marxism, which emphasizes class struggle as the primary historical driver, Paetel foregrounds the nation as the fundamental unit of political organization.


The manifesto also reveals a strong geopolitical dimension. Paetel advocates a strategic alignment between Germany and Soviet Russia, not on ideological grounds, but as a pragmatic counterweight to Western powers such as France and United Kingdom. This position reflects broader currents within interwar German thought that sought to reorient the nation eastward, both economically and politically.

>>2874542
ok so its just national socialism again, with all its mistakes of chauvinism and parochialism

>>2874747
DSA will take over and we'll have no where to go. Go ahead be pedantic. Anything else won't work.

>>2874524
That is precisely what the fuck you said you politically illiterate retard. Because what the fuck is to the right of conventional burger politics? Fascists. Recently, that includes facsists.


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