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Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective? We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted. Plus the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children, which Marxists also support.

Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government. Philosopher kings are chads, and what better system than to be ruled by chads?

The Republic is the defining work of all western political philosophy so it should be natural that we turn to it.

>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective?
Who said it was undesirable?
But the problem with such governance is it will naturally drift toward gerontocracy due to modern medecine.

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>>2874029
The decay of order is also a theme in Plato. Stalin also writes upon how all "organic" movements have life cycles of youth and death.
>>2874016
>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable
Well, I suppose it depends-
>according to a Marxist perspective?
Did you read the text? Plato's Noble Lies are literally (i) Religion and (ii) Class Society [e.g. the Myth of Metals].
>We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted
But Plato's primary political criticism is really that the elites become perverted by power and money, and so they must be decoupled by conditions of (i) intra-marriage, (ii) eugenics, (iii) shared property, (iv) austerity, etc.
>the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children
No it doesn't. Shared property only extends to the Guardian caste of 'philosopher-kings' [e.g. Warrior Priests]. The division of labour in the lower orders presupposes private property and commerce.
>Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government
Yes, but Marxism is not about systems of government.

Plato is UTOPIAN SOCIALIST, ANTI-USURY.

marxism isn't about what's desirable or undesirable it's about what develops as part of how the laws of society move


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