revolution in the imperial core is unlikely but highly necessary because there is no stronger imperialist force that can come in from the outside and ruin the revolution. the third world is more immiserated and has had mores successful revolutions, but those revolutions get rolled back by CIA coups, sanctions, bombs, opportunism, revisionism, etc. the opportunism and revisionism is usually a side effect of trying to protect the gains of the revolution from a stronger outside force without being suicidal. the core would not have to do this. they are the strongest force. who's gonna bomb and sanction america if it has a revolution? china? iran? russia? DPRK? Give me a break.
This is true and also why every world leader and robber barron is scared shitless of "western leftists" and also why reactionary redbaiting but with China instead of USSR do not work. We had a conversation about this on a apparently deleted thread about the CPC that was on the frontpage a few days ago, no idea why a thread with such important conversation would be deleted but well.
Marxist Leninism was unique to the 20th century, capitalism will be around a lot longer then expected
>>2875912post the evidence or kill yourself immediately
revolution is not necessary and in a modern day high tech authoritarian country it's not even possible.
revolution is just an internalization of authoritarian rule-by-brute-force thinking, the revolutionary is experiencing premature enlightenment like the neckbeard atheist who has rejected god but has not rejected dogma.
you can't destroy the system and you can't escape the system. you cannot be an agent of history and the desire to be an agent of history is a core principle of authoritarian thinking, you have to evolve beyond that and stop thinking in terms of inhumanly-huge lofty abstract goals like overthrowing governments and building global utopias and saving the rainforest.
>>2876565>deliberately confusing racespooks with imperial coreeastern europe is not imperial core but is "white"
african americans are imperial core but are not "white"
>deliberately confusing class with worldspooksa homeless man in the "first world" does not exploit a bourgeois person in the "third world"
a bourgeois person in the "third world" is not exploited by a homeless person in the "first world"
you are deeply confused by worldspooks and racespooks.
>>2876573eastern europe is definitely imperial core. they're relatively wealthy, much wealthier than the typical country you see in global south.
asides from material gain, they also they benefit from the bourgeoisie racial hierarchy of whiteoids. this is also hugely important because it can also obviously lead to better material gains and many other things.
african americans I consider indirectly benefitting from exploitation of the third world but they're exploited by whiteoids in the same first world countries. even your racist whiteoid from bumfuck nowhere living in poverty will still feel superiority over them and this situation overall makes them an exploited group (less opportunity in networking and job market and socializing etc.)
>a homeless man in the "first world" does not exploit a bourgeois person in the "third world"what's this deliberate misinformation?
the """"""proles"""""" in the first world live in hundred times better conditions than the proles in third world. sometimes even better than the petty bourgeois in that country.
so yeah, a "homeless" can eat mcdonalds meanwhile the same mcdonalds is a luxury food in third world because even a "homeless" from first world benefits from the exploitation of third world.
>>2876600>eastern europe is definitely imperial coreSince when is Romania imperial core?
>>2876602They’re literally NATO members
>>2876600>the """"""proles"""""" in the first world live in hundred times better conditions than the proles in third world. sometimes even better than the petty bourgeois in that country.>a hundred times betterby what metric? the stock market? LMFAO
>workers of the world, please don't unite, just don't OK? it's not in your interests, OK? you're not even workers. please… jsut don't unite. you actually have more in common with your masters because you're like…. from the same part of the world n shit…. the GDP…. it's shared…. trust me. workers…. of the world…. just don't unite… OK? look. workers of the world? there's 3 worlds actually. so don't unite!!! those people over there??? different planet!
>>2876638Who counts as a worker?
>>2876633Is Gary, Indiana not part of the imperial core either?
>>2876644No imperial core country has ever had a proletarian revolution, which means either there are no proletarians in the imperial core or the proletariat isn’t the revolutionary class, it’s one or the other
>>2876646just because something hasnt happened doesnt mean it cant and there HAS been failed ones meaning they pushed to a revolutionary situation and just were not properly prepared which is expected because defeat is probable in all revolutions do you think that it was inevitable that the chinese communists survived the long march the japanese and then won in the end? of course not most revolutions around the world fail
>>2876647Shoulda woulda coulda, I don’t care for failure, it’s contemptuous
>>2876648except its not we are the ones who say to keep fighting
>>2876650How many times can you see people make the same mistakes before writing them off, the imperial core proles are addicts, and like any addict you have to cut them off, go no contact lest you enable their destructive nonsense
>>2876655>>2876657There’s what Marx said and there’s the truth, I care only for the latter
>>2876659you don't care about either actually
>>2876661lol
>>2876664If they’re politically impotent and unorganized they aren’t the proletariat, simple as
>>2876666how did we get from
>who counts as a worker?to this?
>>2875832>who's gonna bomb and sanction america if it has a revolution? china? iran? russia? DPRK?All of the above
>haven't read the first paragraph in 'festo award Unique IPs: 14