Workers of the world, do not, under any circumstances, unite. You don't look the same. You don't speak the same language. You don't worship the same Gods. You don't have the same history. You don't agree on history, science, philosophy, biology. You don't have the same art styles or aesthetic tastes. You don't have the same GDP. You don't have the same natural resources. You don't have the same supply chains. You don't have the same interests. You don't like each other. In fact, workers from other countries would gladly kill you if their governments told them to. And you would kill them too. And if you wouldn't, other workers would. And you will never ever ever ever overcome that. If a country is 0.0000000000000001% more imperialist than yours it is full of irredeemable treatlerite """workers""" who must be put to the sword. If a country is 0.0000000000000001% less imperialist than yours it is full of weak untermensch vermin who must kneel to your might. Don't you see? This is how it is supposed to be. You have everything to lose! You have nothing to gain but even tighter chains!
It's easier to unite when you stamp out reactionary impulses in the working class. But when you focus only on the reactionary behavior of one section of the working while deliberately ignoring the other, it only results in even more resentment and division.
Ok, waiting for western workers to unite with the third world workers by doing literally anything against imperialism
>>2882024westerners are literally the only ones who have any form of outgroup solidarity
marxism is a western ideology and that's a good thing
>>2882012OP isn't entirely wrong.
>You don't look the same.>You don't speak the same language.>You don't worship the same Gods.>You don't have the same history.>You don't agree on history, science, philosophy, biology.>You don't have the same art styles or aesthetic tastes.>You don't have the same GDP.>You don't have the same natural resources>You don't have the same supply chains>You don't have the same interests>You don't like each other…
<In fact, workers from other countries would gladly kill you if their governments told them to. And you would kill them too. And if you wouldn't, other workers would.Yep, people are generally speaking more petty and divisive than willing to put their differences aside and unite in friendship and a partnership of clans.
The Hobbes & Machiavelli pill is too much for most to bear…
>>2882012>>2882075I wouldn't kill you uWu.
>>2882042Don't really think that's true.
>>2882012You don't need a global uprising. There's only a few thousand bourgeoisie. Just get a few thousand mean proles to make fun of them until they cry and go away.
>>2882075>>2882099Ok, i could tolerate this retard as l9ng as he stayed in his containment thread on siberia but if he's going to spr3ad his faggotry further I'm gonna start spamming gore in the monarchy thread
>>2882024they voted for zohran, what else do you want?
the marxists want you to throw off your chains. but chains are heavy. carrying them around makes you ripped and attractive to women. yet another way to pussify men and make them gay and look cute in dresses too and make me wanna fuck them
>>2882024Idealist post. Class struggle isn't a question of willpower or moral fibre.
>>2882081>Don't really think that's true.And I (another anon) don’t think you pay attention to the real world very much. Not only is that true, “outgroup solidarity” has consumed much of the left’s general energies for the past several decades. Champagne socialists have been using “outgroup solidarity” to avoid the trickiness of local problems for a while now.
>>2882143Yeah, it's a question of actually doing something in an organized manner
>>2882024>by doing literally anything against imperialismlmfao.. imperialism is just the way competition between countries manifests under capitalism
>>2882104I might be nuts, but he could write without avatarfaging. It's hard to tell the difference because I've seen him sometimes start posts with a capital letter, sometimes with a lowercase one.
>>2882225post the source text
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>>2882225so marx and engels agree, workers of the world, do not unite
>>2882235only on leftoidpol would "marx and engels hated vague abstractions like The Masses" get you hit with an ERRRRRM SOURCE????????. this is why i barely come to this dying shithole anymore
Soldiers and Police Officers are workers yet their job is to uphold the dictatorship of capital. Sectarianism amongst the working classes is necessary.
>>2882278>Soldiers and Police Officers are workersLumpen
>>2882165Organization is the product of objective conditions, not just wanting to do something. The US has no working class movement not because it has no workers, but because the material basis for earlier forms of organization was destroyed by deindustrialization, forcing them to basically rebuild a movement from scratch that took over a century to build up the first time.
>>2882285>>2882286What? Soldiers and police are wage workers; with soldiers even receiving a shit salary. These are workers, which portrays the internal contradiction - you are seeking to.erase the contradiction instead of moving through it. There are plentyof wprkers who have no revolutionary potential due to the very nature of their work.
>>2882239I am interested in reading more from that same work. Care to post the source?
>>2882239Why is it wrong to ask for a source from a screenshot of a paragraph from a book?
>>2882309>Soldiers and police are wage workersSo are gangsters, cartel members, and pirates, but you don’t see anyone conflating them with the rest of the proletariat. They are lumpen, they are class traitors.
>>2882287> the material basis for earlier forms of organization was destroyed by deindustrializationalso taft hartley
>forcing them to basically rebuild a movement from scratch that took over a century to build up the first time.how to stop this from happening over and over
>>2882333oh no marx and engels were proto-NAFO… zisters….
How are coal miners and wind farmers in the same class or have the same interests?
>>2882359both are under the orders of a boss who siphon most of the value they're creating with their work.
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