/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2882899
>The Soviet Union
Like, it's death was the greatest tragedy in modern history and I hope it comes back one day.
>Tsarist Russia
Dislike, fuck monarchies.
>Fascist Italy
Mixed opinions, they'd have been ok if they abolished the monarchy from the start and stayed neutral like Franco in Spain.
>Nazi Germany
Mixed opinions, they'd have been ok if the Stasserists overthrew Hitler.
>The German Empire
Dislike, fuck monarchies.
>The Second French Empire
Dislike, fuck colonialism.
>Hezbollah
Dislike, fuck islam.
>Ba'athist Iraq
Mixed opinions, Saddam should have left the kurds alone and the Izzad's Faith Campaign was a mistake but otherwise Ba'athism was based. If you said "Ba'athist Syria" it would have been a pure like.
>The Islamic Republic of Iran
Dislike, fuck islam.
>The PRC
Mixed opinions, it was good up until the traitor Deng's reforms. I hope they return to Maoism one day.
>America
Mixed opinions. The founding fathers and almost every other president up to Lincoln would have been in agreement with Marx but afterward imperialists took over.
>Britain
Dislike, fuck monarchies.
>The French third and fifth republics
Dislike, fuck colonialism.

>>2885106
>>America
>Mixed opinions. The founding fathers and almost every other president up to Lincoln would have been in agreement with Marx but afterward imperialists took over.
Why? I thought you fucked colonialism

>>2885106
>up to Lincoln
This, but up to Cleveland.

>>2885121
By the time America was gaining its independence a mass exodus back to Britain was unrealistic. The founders at very least wanted peace/cooperation with natives.

I feel similarly about Afrikaners in South Africa. They mostly left the native Africans alone save for some small skirmishes but then the British committed atrocities against both.

>>2885131
>its independence a mass exodus back to Britain was unrealistic
What about craKKKer genocide?

Yeah uighur

>>2885135
That wasn’t even Tecumseh’s position

>>2885106
you ever notice how the left wing of every fascist movement just gets backstabbed or just completely cucked in some sort of way? you are literally just a social democrat who likes jackboots and daggers

>>2885298
True, but the same can be said of Marxist-Leninist experiences. Although, to be fair, the remnants are also generally considered left-leaning.

>>2885298
>you are literally just a social democrat who likes jackboots and daggers
I think this is an accurate descriptions of non-reactionary "left-fascist" tendencies. It's just the same dynamic you would see in socdem parties.

The Left tendency wanting to represent an anti capitalist or social element of the movement, while the right and center, bow down to existing powers that be, and make sure their left lank is subdued.

>>2882899
This is incoherent ideologically but very coherent psychologically. You must understand that ideology, like soda, is a commodity marketed to certain personalities and demographics. There is a fundamental reason that the political divide in most developed countries today is: underemployed young educated women Vs over employed old uneducated men.
(With some fuzziness, e.g. young men skew more reactionary than young women, with age and education usually the most dominant factors overall.)

>>2882899
Nazbolism and other such things should have died four years ago and should have just stayed a meme, shit like eurasianism and the likes are quite literaly just gladio psyops, look at shit like sutter, before larping as a satanist nazi he was one of those anoying right wing-jucheist synthisis types, nazmaoism litteraly a product of the years of lead in italy, mk ultra cults like the process church and manson partook in this ideology shopping and bastardziation too, etc, right wing nationalism and the likes are incompatible and the enemies of marxism and revolutionary socialism, all of this bs is just psyops to devide and ultimetaly destroy, no matter what anctidotes about some japanese socdem politican in the 50s, soviet realpolitik with the germs, juche quotes, or le funny epic memes and edits would otherwise say, just be a normal rightoid bruh

>>2885106
Ziorat detected

>>2885349
>>2885355
I mean it's not really that complicated, they hate Jews and like socialism

>>2885349
>>2885355
A former Nazi did more for communism than all Western leftists combined.

>>2885106
>>2885298
The Strasserists were to the right of Hitler. Although they were more anti-capitalist, this was only because they advocated for the restoration of feudalism and the medieval guild system.

Someone post the "Myth of Strasserite Socialism" pdf

>>2885538
Otto Ernst Remer was a former Wehrmacht officer and National Socialist who after WW2 concluded that the Soviet Union was a better option than the US, he believed that the Soviet Union was not led by "liberal degenerates" and that Marxism-Leninism offered a better chance of preserving national history and cultural heritage. He founded and led the "Socialist Reich Party" (SRP) in West Germany, which was supported and funded by the Soviet Union. Just two years later, the party was banned and Remer faced arrest, prompting him to flee to Egypt. There, he became an advisor to Gamal Abdel Nasser and engaged in arms trading with the Algerian National Liberation Front (FLN). He then went to Cuba alongside former Wehrmacht officers to train the newly established Cuban Army, he also collaborated with the PLO and organized arms deals for them as well.
He dedicated his life to the struggle against American imperialism, providing more tangible material support than the vast majority of Western leftists.

>>2885567
>The Strasserists were to the right of Hitler. Although they were more anti-capitalist, this was only because they advocated for the restoration of feudalism and the medieval guild system.
100%. The strasser bros was the more reactionary tendency compard to Hitler's bourgeois tendency.

Strasserism is pretty close to Marx's description of reactionary "socialism" in the communist manifesto.

>>2885419
I dont think that is true (the first time i learned about the socialist reich party was through a hoi4 mod, which should be telling)

>>2885634
name a western who helped train the Cuban Army?

>>2885361
What makes you think that, that I really don't like islam? Why are so many people who call themselves leftists simps for people who would murder and enslave them? People who treat women like property and cling to obsolete religious dogma.

>>2885797
Islamophobes are ziorats simple as
If it were up to me you'd be banned for this kind of racism

>>2885797
>people who would murder and enslave them? People who treat women like property and cling to obsolete religious dogma.
there is legitimate criticism of islam and then there's this shit straight outta langley that you are regurgitating

>>2886112
true,they don't enslave people anymore,rest is correct tho

I'm a Fifth Positionist

>>2886149
Doesn't mean it's not racism to proclaim your Islamophobic hasbara talking points ziorat. Nothing you're saying is out of the ordinary for posters on r/judeism or r/israel or any other nazi faggot congregation like that

>>2886173
case and point, after being called out this ziorat responds by posting racist caricatures

>>2886173
>Posting stonetoss
>not a nazi
You can only choose one

>>2886176
>My racist delusions are reality
>Also you must be muslim if you call out my delusions
Typical ziorat cope

>>2886181
>Lemme post more right wing racist propaganda you'd find on boomer facebook groups!
>That'll prove I'm not a nazi!!
Tel Aviv is not sending their best

>>2886182
>Ive never mentioned race
Doesn't matter Schmuley, you're still a racist for spreading Islamophobic hasbara

>You talk about delusion while defending the mass societal delusion that is islam??
You can disagree with islam, but Islamophobes are zios, it's pretty simple. Your attack of islam does nothing but further the interests and narratives of western imperialists and zionists, that is why you are a ziorat(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2886189
>I'm proud to be racist then
That much is obvious Schmuley

>I attack it because religion is retarded delusion that has no place in the modern world.
You attack it because you are a ziorat. I simply called that out and now you're seething

>>2886197
>But what if I post even more images from the fox news facebook page comment section??
Kys Ziorat(USER ALREADY BANNED)

This is the first time mods have defended an antisemitic rightard (islamism is rightist) from leftists

>>2886212
You're allowed to criticise Islam but he was posting sicko Zionism shit

>>2886213
>he
There were at least two people here, and neither of them posted anything pro-Israel or racist, while you call everyone Schmuley, implying that everyone who's against you is Jewish (/pol/ logic)

>>2886215
It was the same person, and yes he did, I saw it, stop lying. Also I'm not the person who was arguing with them. Isn't Schmuley a reference to some real life mega Zionist? Idk.

T. mod

I like
>The Soviet Union
>Tsarist Russia
>Fascist Italy
>Nazi Germany
>The German Empire
>The Second French Empire
>Hezbollah
>Ba'athist Iraq
>The Islamic Republic of Iran
>The PRC
I dislike
>America
>Britain
>The French third and fifth republics

Thank you, God, for modlog.

>>2886763
Not the same thread

>>2886802
That doesn't hold water; the post numbers from the modlog match the ones deleted in this thread. Why do you lie so stubbornly? Why are fans of maphammad (Police Be Upon Him) such liars?

>>2882899
This is besides the point of the thread, but the Second French Empire was such a Mickey Mouse empire.

>>2885131
i am a yankee and my favorite food is hamburger

>>2885106
Finally, the comment that makes me want to kill myself

>>2885567
>they advocated for the restoration of feudalism and the medieval guild system
That's based. I completely fail to see how it is more rightist than Hitler's "enslave all subhuman races"

>>2885106
>fascist Italy
>nazi germany
>mixed opinions

Somebody get these NAZBOLs out of here

>>2882899
At the end of the day it’s authoritarianism for its own sake mixed with cool aesthetics, aura and hype moment edits and just some giga chad wojaks to compensate for their schizo political ideologies that only psychos on Twitter and d.discord care about.

Nothing more, nothing less.

>>2897002
The amount of jaks a person posts is inversely proportional to how serious their politics are

>>2896354
As if the Strasser brothers didn't also believe in enslaving inferior races and expanding Aryan lebenraum lmao. Gregor Strasser's 1925 "Draft of a Comprehensive Program for National Socialism" explicitly calls for colonialism in Central Africa and the formation of a "United States of Europe". Wanting to restore feudalism doesn't contradict a belief in racial hierarchy and feudalism is undoubtedly more reactionary than capitalism

The whole concept of "Strasserism" was a massive grift fabricated by Otto Strasser desperately trying to keep himself relevant in the postwar neo-fascist scene by re-inventing himself as a kind of Trotsky of the NSDAP. The truth is that throughout their time as party members, the Strasser brothers consistently represented the more moderate faction of NSDAP who were more willing to compromise with traditional elites than Hitler. The real reason for their purge was not because the Strassers were too revolutionary and leftist, but the exact opposite; Gregor Strasser was being bribed by Schleicher and von Papen into entering a conservative coalition government within existing political institutions as opposed to Hitler who wanted to overthrow the Weimar Republic entirely.

"We recognize private property. We recognize private initiative. We recognize our debts and our obligation to pay them. We are against the nationalization of industry. We are against the nationalization of trade. We are against a planned economy in the Soviet sense."—Gregor Strasser