/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2883128
Didn't that White boy just shoot up a bunch of people at in and out?

>The suspected gunman, identified as Chad Williams, 24, died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound after fatally shooting an employee and a customer, according to Twin Falls Police Chief Matthew Hicks.

>>2883132
It's pretty blatant that under every possible circumstance whites will always end up acting the same.

>>2883132
first image is ai sloppa picrel is real

>>2883132
Yes, white people commit violent crimes, too
But blacks commit crime at a disproportionately higher rate in every country that has an african diaspora

>>2883134
The way whites act has lead the world towards discovery and progress

>>2883135
not a euro

>ragebait
>violent and racial
>"leftists"
>unrelated flag
>racist
reported, hidden, saged

CUSTOMERS and ASSOCIATES don't forget that disgusting humans shoot on our property.

>>2883140
all of that is true according to the data

>>2883143
The data is incomplete

>>2883144
>>2883142
The Iraqi war crimes only show that the military is full of psychotics

They don't represent the average white person

>the data is incomplete
Explain

The science is settled

>>2883148
>They don't represent the average white person
It's actually a better picture of the average white person if you think about it, because none of these people would've committed these kinds of crimes until they were given the opportunity to do it where they thought they could get away with it. It's what's lurking behind every seemingly civil white person. Same kind of things with police officers, and of course they get away with it usually.

>>2883128
>What is the leftist arguments against the idea that things like autism score and aggression are caused by genetics?
>It seems pretty obvious that race plays a large role in someone's behaviour
>genetics
>race

Race is not genetic, it is socially constructed. Genetics is not racial, it reveals continuous variability in and across populations.

Modern genetics shows that humans do not divide into a small number of clear, natural biological races. Human genetic variation is continuous, and there is often more genetic variation within a population than between populations. Because of this, most geneticists and anthropologists do not treat race as a precise biological classification.

Race is widely understood to be a social construct. Societies create racial categories, define who belongs to them, and attach social, legal, and cultural meanings to those categories. Those definitions have changed over time and vary across countries.

>>2883137
>But blacks commit crime at a disproportionately higher rate in every country that has an african diaspora

do they "commit" more crimes or are they convicted at a higher rate espite commiting the same number of crimes due to being more heavily policed?

I have noticed a tendency of racists to conflate crime, arrest, and conviction. A person can be arrested and convicted without a committing a crime. A person can also commit a crime without being arrested. A rich man can do drugs in the safety of his mansion and not be arrested because he has a lot of private property and land and is capable of bribing corrupt so-called "law enforcers. " A poor man has nothing to bribe cops with, and if he does drugs, it will be in an alleyway where he is easily noticed, has the police called on him and is arrested. In a racist society, certain "races" (I have already gone over race being social rather than genetic) will be more targeted by police, have their neighborhoods more heavily policed, and will be arrested and accused of crimes at a higher rate, regardless of the rate at which they actually commit crimes. Racists are typically interested in none of this. They are interested in exacerbating the feedback loop that justifies their discrimination. Their argument goes something like this

>Palestinians are terrorists
>therefore we need to put more IDF checkpoints in their ghettos
>whenever the IDF arrests a Palestinian, that means they did something wrong
>lots of Palestinians are getting arrested at a high rate
>this proves they are terrorists and need to invest in even more money to police and imprison them

Replace "Palestinian" with "blacks" and "terrorist" with "gang member" or "criminal" and you have the typical argument made by white supremacists in the US.

>>2883128
Black Americans are arrested and incarcerated at disproportionately high rates. Differences in policing strategies, police presence, neighborhood surveillance, prosecutorial decisions, and sentencing all contribute to those disparities.

For drug use, surveys consistently find that Black and White Americans use illegal drugs at broadly similar rates, yet Black Americans have historically been arrested for drug offenses at much higher rates. This is a clear example where enforcement differs from underlying behavior.

Crime statistics describe interactions between people and the criminal justice system instead of innate characteristics of demographic groups. Interpreting statistics requires considering how crime is measured, reported, policed, prosecuted, and sentenced.

Racists aren't really interested in any of this, they are interested in doing more racism, which means interpreting statistics to justify exacerbating whatever underlying social problems resulted in those statistics in the first place.

>>2883150
>>2883155

White supremacists and zionists don't see Iraq war crimes as crimes because it was committed by the World Police (tm). You see, police can't do crimes. In fact, if a police does a crime to you, it makes you a criminal.

let us ignore the issue that black people make up 58% of the exonerations despite being only 13% of the population suggesting heavy overpolicing and these statistics only look at incarcerations, not actual crimes

per capita still ignores the fact that incarceration for violent crime continues to everywhere reduce over time. we see how homicides shot up from the 60s to 80s after the peddling of drugs to blacks by the feds and the subsequent war on drugs, followed by a consistent decrease as the effect of such policies wore off. a strong hereditarian hypothesis would be unable to explain the diachronic data unless you believe their magic genes changed within a generation

>>2883148
so genetics stops the moment you put on a uniform?
either you're admitting that race is a social construct and it changes the moment you join the military, or that the definition of violence and crime is socially constructed and so the statement "blacks commit more crime" can be explained through social, rather than genetic, arguments

>>2883164
>A rich man can do drugs in the safety of his mansion and not be arrested because he has a lot of private property and land and is capable of bribing corrupt so-called "law enforcers."
It really comes down to position in the economy, the division of labor, including the division of the criminal economy. I think Tupac made this point, like the deadliest gang in America is the army and the government will send them to blow up a whole country.

In any event, in America there is a black criminal subculture that is at the bottom of that hierarchy, and these men get into beef over drugs or drama or women and resort to violence directly rather than having the police do it on their behalf or sending lawyers after their ops (or sending the army). White people have their own shooters, they wear uniforms, so they've delegated that job to other people. The question isn't really "what's wrong with them" or what their autism score is (some of these guys can be pretty smart although other guys can be complete dumbasses), it's the social environment and then a cultural superstructure emerges out of that which reinforces it. Also it can make sense to rob drug dealers because what are they going to do? Call the cops??? But it's harder to do drive-bys on your ops nowadays because there are Flock cameras. Those days are really over.

reinstate eugenics but only for op so we can euthanize his retard ass

POLTARD BAIT THREAD

DEATH TO ALL RIGHTOIDS

There's like a hundred youtube essays on this if you actually gaf, kill yourself.

>>2883128
sounds like your autism was caused by inbreeding crackkker.

Jannies leak the IP of OP so i can rape him

>>2883175
>breadslop
no thanks

>>2883137
>not a euro
<behaviour
Shut the fuck up.

>>2883159
>>2883155
Even if the military represented the majority of whites it still doesn't explain why blacks are so violent

>>2883157
This really doesn't doesn't debunk black crime and autism score

>>2883160
even if terms like "black" or "white" are ultimately meaningless there is obviously still differences in traits like autism score and aggression between "racial" groups
Someone who is considered "east asian" is more likely to have a higher autism score and less aggression than someone who is considered "black"

>>2883164
about 33% of the US black population has been convicted of a criminal offense

>>2883167
There is no denying the servicemen are sociopaths, but they don't represent the entire white community

>>2883166
Just because they get an exoneration doesn't mean they innocent

>>2883167
>can be explained through social, rather than genetic, arguments
what would one of these arguments be?
Literally every black community in any country never succeeds

>>2883222
>Just because they get an exoneration doesn't mean they innocent
asinine cope and you did not even respond to my main point

>>2883222
this guy doesn't even read the posts he replies to

>>2883164
(OP did not quote or reply to anything in this post, he just repeated a statistic)

>>2883225
>you did not even respond to my main point
police activity in the 80's isn't a solid argument against current conviction rates

Even if there were a large amount of blacks falsely arrested, there is still an overwhelming amount of black convictions

>>2883128
It's chicken or the egg dilemma. Was it the environment that exacerbated it or was it because it was innate, something they'd do even in a theoretical utopia and perfect upbringing? We cannot know because capitalism is inherently unequal and chaotic which precludes any scientific conclusion.

>>2883222
>about 33% of the US black population has been convicted of a criminal offense
see >>2883165
<Crime statistics describe interactions between people and the criminal justice system instead of innate characteristics of demographic groups. Interpreting statistics requires considering how crime is measured, reported, policed, prosecuted, and sentenced. Racists aren't really interested in any of this, they are interested in doing more racism, which means interpreting statistics to justify exacerbating whatever underlying social problems resulted in those statistics in the first place.

>>2883231
that wasnt the argument i was making. i was saying that, pushing that point aside, even if we assume that incarceration rate accurately reflect actual crime rate, we see massive decreases in the number of homicides everywhere. the fluctuation can be explained by past government policies that have destabilized communities, increased the number of single mother households, etc

>>2883232
>It's chicken or the egg dilemma. Was it the environment that exacerbated it or was it because it was innate, something they'd do even in a theoretical utopia and perfect upbringing? We cannot know because capitalism is inherently unequal and chaotic which precludes any scientific conclusion.
your scientific conclusion is … what? increase police budgets? more heavily police nonwhite neighborhoods? throw more nonwhite people in jail? The government's been doing that for decades. And after all your proposals are implemented it will produce "more evidence" to justify more of the same.