Another Communization Theory thread because why not?
Talk about anything relating to Communization Theory! Talk about how Communization Theory is great or how its shit!
Texts regarding Communization Theory and its many sub-sects will be attached in the replies.
[NOTE: Not every Communizer believes in the same things, e.g. some emphasis class struggle while others don't]
explain to me in one sentence that a child could understand what is communization theory and how is it different from communism, marxism, marxism leninism, marxism leninism mao zedong thought, maoism third worldism, and so on
>>2890552communization theory rejects the dictatorship of the proletariat, the transition stage towards communism, and sees communism itself as a means to combat capitalism; this will be done through "communist measures" (
https://www.sicjournal.org/communist-measures-2/index.html) which are communist social relations implemented within the areas under revolutionary control.
>Let’s not get rid of the bourgeoisie: a thread
Great
Why do ultras hate communizers to the point of hounding you out of their image board? Feels like some real friendly fire shit.
>>2890578sounds cool although from my understanding this debate between if the transition stage should exist goes back to the 1st international. tbh based on previous periods of transition between one mode of production there a ton of geographic variation where historical circumstance and material conditions can produce sudden sea changes and slow trickles and just about everything in between. This is why the debate has struck as pointless since trying to copy and paste shit across time and space strikes me as a doomed to fail.
>>2890662>pointless since trying to copy and paste shit across time and space strikes me as a doomed to failyou are talking about people unironically citing value form theory 100 years after lenin's writings on imperialism. seems like a regression to stirnerite voluntarism but now with a theoretical apparatus that comes as close as possible to say that capitalism subsumes everything and therefore efficacious communist praxis is impossible
>>2890652>Feels like some real friendly fire shitIt’s not. Ultras don’t like idealism. They may sympathize with the communizers potential passion for living in a communist society as soon as possible, but they’re still at the end of the day idealists who ultimately ignore the threat the bourgeoisie poses against said society.
the outcome of every kind of struggle is determined by which side has the greater force and force is a function of mass and speed. thus, for a smaller force to overcome a greater force it must either increase its mass or increase its speed. the system we live under is incomprehensibly massive, it's not just the elite minority we are up against, it is the system that they have built around themselves which is much bigger than all of the people in the world put together. therefore, we need to forget about strength in numbers, that's off the table. no matter how effectively we organize, no matter how big of an army we manage to amass, we will never outmass the system. so that only leaves speed. speed is what allows a smaller mass to overcome a greater mass, what allows a tiny pellet of lead to destroy a full grown human being, what allows alexander and his small army to conquer all of the greatest empires in the known world - speed. speed of hand and speed of mind. so how do we obtain speed?
human thought is not one thing, the brain is a fundamentally dualistic system, all the way from the lowest level - its actual physical structure, to the highest level - the way it thinks and processes information. cognition can thus be divided into two basic kinds, the slow conscious deliberate predictive kind, and the fast reflexive instinctual reactive kind. one is not better or worse than the other, they are equally important and essential when it comes to general action. some situations call for slow cognition, like a chess move where the player must plan and predict and consider all of the possibilities. other situations call for fast cognition, like a baseball swing where the player has no time for conscious deliberation and must empty their mind and be one with the moment and feel it out. the ruling class operate solely on slow cognition, scheming and predicting and building a huge elaborate system that accounts for every possible eventuality. they are not stupid. there is no such thing as stupid. every chess move you can possibly think of, they have already thought of it and amended their system to account for it. so you can't beat them at chess, you have to play a different game, you have to adopt a totally different mindset, you have to rely on fast cognition that cannot be accounted for by any system, something the ancient chinese would call "wu-wei" which is very difficult to even explain because western language has no words for it, but the closest approximation is "action through inaction".
the revolution, the true revolution that actually succeeds and destroys the system rather than being crushed or undermined or perverted into another iteration of the system, is something that cannot be planned or structured or even talked about. it just happens automatically when the moment is right. it has no leaders or followers, nobody has a job, nobody tells anybody what to do or when to do it. there simply comes a moment where everyone just knows exactly what needs to be done and they all do it, fully autonomously. for this kind of revolution to be possible, everyone must be in a state of constant readyness. not waiting, not anticipating, not planning, just ready, like the baseball player watching the pitcher and ready to swing the bat, totally immersed in reality and free of all abstractions and distractions that slow them down and trip them up and divert them from the true objective. nobody knows anything about what they are about to do, nobody knows about any plans or secret meetings or leaders or any kind of knowledge that could be a liability, that could be extracted by an interrogator or an informant, everyone is a good obedient conformist as clueless and harmless as a baby. then when the moment finally comes and they all stop what they're doing and make their move, the ruling class and their system are completely unprepared and they are utterly destroyed in the blink of an eye. that is speed.
>>2890632Communist measures are obviously generalized, i.e. practiced in other regions and countries. If communist measures are not generalized then they fade away and the revolutionary struggle ends. I didn't mention this in the original reply because I didn't know how to mention it.
>>2890646that is not what we mean retard
>>2890708>that's not what you think it meansI know the exact definitions.
>>2890706That’s exactly what you mean, unintended or not.
>>2890578>>2890707>communization theory rejects the dictatorship of the proletariatThe imposition of communist measures
is the DotP and vice versa
>>2890707how do they get generalized without central organization or some other system of propagation? you could easily also say socialism in one country must get generalized by having socialism in different countries