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Does deng actually deserve credit for saving china? If the west hadnt decided to export literally of their industry to china.
Would his reforms even had an effect on anything?

He exposed Marxism for the status quo Walmartism it always was

>>2893603
>>2893610
bait to bait communication

>>2893603
Yes. Fundamentally, his realism is commendable in and of itself. Every LARPer who thinks he'd have saved communism with some bright idea is another Gorbachev in disguise, unaware of the underlying problems each country faced and utterly unable of tackling them. Even if we grant dengism as a step backwards (which I don't agree with), it is the kind of step backwards necessary to step forwards: a long march through the productive forces.
Moreover, the idea that the west exported their industry is more or less a meme. US manufacturing is stronger than ever, it has a lower share of output and employment because that is, fundamentally, how manufacturing works. (Capital substitutes labour, labour cascades to service sector. Even China is now majority service-sector employment!)

>>2893630
Supplying american treatlers with treats is not, never has been, never will be the abolition of the status quo, they scabbed, they wrecked the Warsaw Pact, they wrecked labor organizing all for their own selfish gain. They’re skinnier Americans, the same country.

>>2893684
>They’re skinnier Americans
Not for so long

>>2893630
good post
>>2893684
stupid post

>>2893684
The Warsaw pact wrecked itself by taking foreign loans it couldn't pay back on the one hand and by sheer economic incompetence on the other.

It must be emphasized again and again that soviet leaders did not understand their own economy in the slightest, hence the final fatal move by Gorbachev to open up convertibility between beznal (fake money used for firm accounting, raw resources, etc, to hide inflation away from consumers) and nal. (the money workers get in wages to spend on goods and services) the implications of which even many Soviet economists (so far as there was such a thing) did not understand for a long time, even though the result is basically every miserable picture of empty shelves and queues. They let the state fund its own looting! Silly!!


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