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Is nationalism inherently against leftist ideology? If so, what do i do if i don't want to share my country with (Nevermind), but i do want a system where the average person can afford stuff that people need and want?

Fuck off you spooked up fag

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>>2896193
hmmmmmmmmmm

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>>2896208
no need to post actual theory. OP doesn't mean nationalism the way Stalin means it. He just means he finds black people scary. That is why he attached that picture and said he doesn't want to share his country with (Nevermind)

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internationalism in marxism means respect for national sovereignty of countries that have already had proletarian revolutions. it does not however mean respect for racism and ethnonationalism, especially not in the name of maintaining imperialism.

>>2896209
yes I am aware OP is a chauvinist who needs to go to gulag. but maybe he'll learn something

>>2896209
First of all, i am not scared of black people, we don't have those in russia, the image is a meme.
Second, i appreciate the theory, you can go get raped by stray dogs idiot

>>2896213
maybe
sniff
maybe
but more likely he will learn nothing. good attempt.

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>>2896214
>, i am not scared of black people, we don't have those in russia

>>2896214
black caucasians and the russian bigfoot

>>2896216
>>2896217
Just go take a stroll in any russian city bruh, you'll see hordes of (Nevermind)'s and MAYBE one black person if you're lucky.
>but russia had black people!
Yeah, like any other country had a couple of those

>>2896214
Bro screams every time he closes his eyes

>>2896210
Nationalism (atleast in my understanding) does not get along with imperialism. Imperialism moves your people and their genes out of their respective nations and vice versa (welcome back)
As a nationalist i have no reason to support anything that puts authority above nation, which imperialism does.
btw I don't care what your psedo-fathers like marx said about me having to live amongst (Nevermind)'s in a country that doesn't belong to them.

>>2896224
Just noticed "psedo" instead of "pseudo". I lost.

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>>2896224
>genes

>>2896224
>goes to leftypol
>asks loaded question
>then claims to not really care about the answer

>>2896224
you have failed to distinguish between the "nationalism" of oppressed nations (the national liberation movement) and the "nationalism" of imperialist nations (the looting and plundering of the periphery by the core)

this is why "nationalism" is one of the most loaded words in politics. a person in the USA can say he is a "nationalist" by which he means his right to invade and destroy other nations, and a person in Burkina Faso can say he is a "nationalist" by which he means his right to resist invasion and destruction.

You see the same thing with "immigration". People will deliberately confuse the "anti-immigration" policies of a country to trying to prevent brain drain and imperialist infiltration with the policies of an imperialist country trying to prevent the people who mine the quartz that end up in the chips from living in the same place as the finished computers.

where'd he fucking go

>>2896230
I worded it poorly, my bad. I respect marx but he is a genetic denialist. His words aren't facts which leftists seem to belive and are only mere interpretation of reality (a good one at that but still) him saying that russia has no right to have an in-group preference based on nation is a load of bs in on itself.
>>2896234
Again, nationalism isn't "my people are better therefore every other nation should submit to mine, i think that every nation on earth has a right to be nationalist and free from other nations and gevernments, so i do not support imperial tendencies in rightoids, this is the opposite of nationalism for me.
>>2896236
Im watching sprunki animations on yt shorts so kinda busy. (Also janjans are leaky today so got banned)

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>>2896215
speaking of Hoovy, he's apparently quite well read. he also sounds very eloquent in Russian. it's just the language barrier that makes him sound stoopid
>>2896224
>he thinks nations are genes

>>2896253
Ofcourse im not denying nurture (which is nations = culture) but i cannot in my right mind say that there is no nature (nations = genes).
The average height, looks(phenotypes), intellectual ability and physical strength IS largely explained by genetic difference.
Although, cultural difference is also a big part of why i consider myself a nationalist. The newcomers in russia simply refuse to assimilate and quite often express their hatred for locals (which our president seems to support haha)

It is unless you are a 19th century peasant and you're trying to break out of clan-based and feudal society or your country is formally colonized. Today if one takes nationalism politically seriously it just means war. Hence why all the nationalists getting elected don't do anything actually nationalist.

>>2896255
Have to disagree. Our government currently sustains atleast three nations (one of those is considered a region in russia but i would say it's pretty autonomous) that don't give anything in return, so for an average russian taxpayer it's a complete waist.
All of this while these ethnogroups constantly shit on people who make their existence even feasable.
I want those countries and regions to become independant from my country, how is this imperialism and war?

>>2896257
I meant to say waste. Sorry for this.

Before anyone calls me a racist or something aling those lines, i have to say that i dont hate immigrants. Hating immigrants is like hating a hamster for running in a weel. These people want a better quality of life, which is understandable, and it's dumb to hate them for it.
I hate my government for letting them do so at my expense in the first place.

>>2896260
>I don't hate immigrants for wanting a better live
>I just have my government for allowing them a better life


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