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Why is something as pseudoscientific and generally useless as "therapy" pushed so heavily nowadays? As someone who was in and out of psych wards as an adolescent, as someone who's been to dozens and dozens of therapists, as someone with multiple complex conditions, how is talking to some clueless privileged fag with a bullshit degree going to improve my material circumstances in any way? Why am I the bad guy for being against the psychiatric industrial complex? What real purpose does "therapy" serve in relation to neoliberal capitalism?

Sometimes talking to a neutral third party helps you feel better or work through something personal but that’s the problem, it only works on an individual and not systemic level

Your post itself is pretty much asking for therapy, just with way less qualified people as your therapists

>>2899237
You're right anon. Therapy, meds, self help, positive thinking, it's all just gaslighting. It's all based on the assumption that the prevailing conditions are reasonable and sound and you are maladaptive. There's no way to be healthy or sane in a world like this. Nobody gets "cured", at best they get brainwashed into thinking things are tolerable enough to be able to serve Capital and not cause problems.
The only authentic reason to live under present conditions is to struggle to destroy these conditions.

My most recent experience with therapy, which was recently, was just boring.
The first few sessions were useful, because I got all my pent up problems out in the open.
The rest was just talking about how I do nothing all week, every week.

It's definitely a scam when all you're getting as feedback is "you should go out more". I can see it being useful for trauma and more severe illnesses than depression.

Psych drugs are pushed like ten million times more than therapy u fgt

>>2899237
If you go to places like 4chan and even here now then you are going to need therapy. There's people who don't want us to believe real things and they will make us mentally ill.

because we live in a very isolative kind of society with nuclear families and suburban homes and no third places and no community organization of any kind and superficial friendships/relationships, everyone is alone and losing their minds in solitary confinement and so now we have a whole industry based on paying people just to sit in a room and talk to someone and listen to their problems and pretend to care about them for an hour.

>>2899237
Therapy is basically the secular confessional. Theres some kind of human need for a confident. I agree for the most part but this sort of institution has been replicated throughout history, different modes of production and human cultures. Only do therapy if it helps, but imo the field is in its infancy. We're barely a step above turpaning peoples skulls.

>>2899237
Therapy is - and they basically say this openly themselves - for turning you from a low-funtioning psychotic wreck into a high-functioning psychotic wreck. It's endless CBT (cock and ball torture) to turn you into a self-manipulating dog. Meds to make you more "focused" (or numb, depending on your condition) but the entire spectrum of psychotherapy is about functionality. If you have terrible OCD, are depressed, or drink too much then it's not "clinical" as long as it doesn't affect you producing surplus value (this sounds like a Marxist vulgarization, but really, what else is there?).

That is not say psychology and psychoanalysis has their merits, but therapy only works on stupid people with zero self-awareness to let themselves get positively manipulated. Talking to a neutral person in a secure environment can sometimes help, but that's about it.

what's the alternative?
you want the capitalist media to tell you
<you don't like your life? consider overthrowing the bourgeois mode of production

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>>2899887
I can't say whether you're right or wrong, but the sentiment behind the message is cringe. Which in itself does not indicate whether what was said is true or not.

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>a board that’s spent four years being overrun by deeply unwell attention whores who spend all day writing insane screeds and shadowboxing strawmen and stereotypes is now trying to tell me that therapy is a scam

>>2899237
The mental health mafia rules in the united states.

>>2899237
Its the best we can do as neuroscience still needs to advance for us to understand why brain operates as it does and how to fix it.

If you have ocd specifically, then therapy is the only real long term solution. Literally all studies on the topic show lifechanging progress in a majority of cases. They are not oficially doctors, but the coping skills they teach you is based in real, hard facts about how the human brain works. Its not just traumadumping to a random person. They actually explain how the disorder works and tell you what you need to do when symptoms appear to remap your brain circuits. Talk therapy is actually bad for ocd and is not practiced by any good therapist.
Source: currently attending therapy for OCD specifically.

ermmm im a petty bourgesisie and i need money and also some mentally ill people need somebody smart to tell them to do good stuff

>>2899237
>Why is something as pseudoscientific and generally useless as "therapy" pushed so heavily nowadays?
it functions as a confessional for people who lack religion

>>2899291
>It's all based on the assumption that the prevailing conditions are reasonable and sound and you are maladaptive
prevailing conditions are NOT reasonable… but ALSO people are often maladaptive…. allow me to elaborate in the next part…
<The only authentic reason to live under present conditions is to struggle to destroy these conditions.
struggling to destroy the present conditions is exactly what people are refusing to do, which is what makes them maladaptive. Struggling is adaptation.

>>2900016
pickle rick was spitting straight facts tbh

>"Of course you should go to a doctor for you're lungs. Yes, the reasons can be environmental, and not all doctors are looking out for you like they should, but it's good to get checked up on and learn ways to keep yourself as healthy as you can within the understandable barriers and material context you exist in."
<"Medical help for my brain? Why would I ever do that?"


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