“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314"A government that fails to protect its citizens is illegitimate"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1998131134753062943"Either the suicidal empathy of Western civilization ends or Western civilization will end"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000078735622721927"Why is Western media so anti-White"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000604195272163517"Call them out for the anti-White racists they are every time they do it"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000920169531822091"Anti-White, anti-male discrimination ends now"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2001022917610758555Says DEI, and not hiring white men, is wrong.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2001529481677435100"Why is legacy media so racist?"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2002604827134787629**|!|- The last time Elon was accused of wanting to import infinity jeets he replied with "False" and said the H1B system should be reformed. -|!|**
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1996214327670648865"Feeling extra based today, might regret it later, but it feels so good"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2003503573448159495>>2911735Progressive doesn't necessarily mean progress. It's a term used by propagandists to present their own ideas as desirable and "making progress."
>>2911736Don't you find it curious that you are incapable of answering basic questions? What are you trying to hide, exactly? I'll repeat myself:
- (i) if "progress" isn't necessarily good, can it be bad?
- (ii) if progess is bad, ought we oppose it?
A yes/no answer will suffice.
>>2911735Sure it can. My issue is that it’s not the issue at hand and it comes off as a goalpost move
>>2911715>>2911724>>2911734My argument does not require moralism. If one group’s “progress” requires the elimination and/or exploitation of another, it cannot be considered progressive.
>>2911744His question is legitimate.
>>2911745Jesus Christ are you illiterate?
You’re smooshing together two different uses of the word to make an insanely banal point
>>2911741Okay, so if progress is bad, shouldn't it be opposed?
If a thing is bad, we should be against it, by definition.
>>2911742I am adding the clause "if", which entails a hypothetical premise.
IF "progress" = bad, THEN progress = opposed to self-interest, etc.
This is syllogistic logic.
By your separation of "progress" from "progressive":
>>2911736You are implying that "progress" is good, by definition. Is this true?
If it is true, is a person who believes in "progress" not a "progressive"?
>>2911744I am giving meaning to the conversation.
>>2911748No, are YOU illiterate? Both your guys’ posts miss the broader point.
Historical progression is correct. “Good” is subjective.
>>2911738(i) Progress is good in the right direction but the label progress can be applied to anything whether or not it is actually good.
(ii) Progress is only bad if you're progressing in the wrong direction.
>>2911750Progress just means moving forward in a certain direction.
Whether or not it is good depends on the direction.
>>2911754>(ii) Progress is only bad if you're progressing in the wrong direction.The United States “progressed” in the wrong direction.
>>2911752Thus begs the question, why strive to be correct?
Because it is good, obviously.
Why do you wish to be correct? Tell me.
>>2911754Right, so IF progress is good, it should be supported, and if it is bad, it shouldn't be. But are both really "progress", or is the bad "regress"? Further, how do we know what the right or wrong direction is?
>>2911756I agree. Most of the stuff labeled "progressive" is in the wrong direction.
>>2911757>Thus begs the question, why strive to be correctBecause being incorrect leads to imprecision and often worse outcomes.
>>2911755>forward>directionBut isn't progress contrary to regress by the very terms of its motion?
For example, if progress is forward movement, it's direction is that which is forward, while the opposite of progress (e.g. regress) is that which simply moves backwards. So, there is no "backwards progress", but only "regress". Would you accept that "progress" thus has one direction, which is opposed to regress? Forward ≠ backward, etc.
>>2911759>worse outcomesAnd is it good to avoid worse outcomes?
>>2911757What's regress for one person is progress for another.
>>2911760It is correct to avoid worse outcomes. Good is subjective.
>>2911760Because you're implying that the backwards direction is invalid, when that's not necessarily true. It could be a valid direction that you just don't agree with.
>>2911762What makes something correct or incorrect?
>>2911763I never claimed anything was invalid.
We are talking about movement.
Forwardness is contrary to backwardness.
So, progress is contrary to regress.
If "progress" is good, then regress must be bad. That's the dichotomy.
>>2911761According to the direction one is facing, yes.
But all progress then has relative regress.
>>2911767But when we're talking about politics it is not as simple as backwards or forwards movement. It is moving between two valid points, what is progress to one person is regress to another.
>>2911775But does direction apply to political opinions?
"Progress" is most often applied in the context of supposed historical movement, where there is a proposed destination reached by the forward movement of things, with backwardness seen as repeating what has already occured in the past.
>>2911779Depends on what?
We can apply it to the case of avoiding worse outcomes.
Why is avoiding, rather than embracing, worse outcomes "correct"?
>>2911781On the situation
On the variables provided
Etc etc etc
>Why is avoiding, rather than embracing, worse outcomes "correct”?Worse=incorrect btw. I should have specified.
>>2911786You are not explaining your reasoning.
(x) = incorrect
(y) = correct
If (y) is equal to correctness, and (y) is avoiding what is "worse", then we must understand what is "worse". If what is worse is a "subjective" phenomenon like pain, then correctness would be goodness, no? But if what is "worse" is "objective" in its measurement, what is this thing? What makes something either "worse" or "better" in concrete terms?
>>2911781Yes.
They make it seem like the past was bad and we have to make progress by moving towards their personal idea of good.
>>2911795How do opinions have directions?
We have have preferences for directions, but opinions themselves are formless. The real question is, does History have a real direction?
>>2911788> You are not explaining your reasoning>"worse"Which I have clarified as incorrect. The worse outcome in this context is the incorrect outcome. You are being purposely obtuse.
>>2911858Perhaps you don't understand, but you are being tautological.
You are saying "what is [incorrect] is incorrect"
You aren't defining what makes a thing actually incorrect.
So tell me, what is the difference between correctness and incorrectness?
>>2911859>You are saying "what is [incorrect] is incorrect"That is completely and utterly incorrect.
>So tell me, what is the difference between correctness and incorrectness?Factualness and unfactualness.
>>2911861>completely and utterly incorrectBut you literally said it. Read:
>>2911858<[worse] … Which I have clarified as incorrectYou are saying that what is "worse" is "incorrect"
So, what makes something "worse"? It being "incorrect". Ergo
[incorrect] = incorrect
Simple.
>Factualness and unfactualness.Give an example of an unfactual outcome.
>>2911863>You are saying that what is "worse" is "incorrect"Correct. And I had said that response to this.
>Why is avoiding, rather than embracing, worse outcomes "correct"?I had to clarify, so you may correct your question into this:
> Why is avoiding, rather than embracing, incorrect outcomes "correct"?>Give an example of an unfactual outcome.2+2=5
>>2911865To return to your original reply:
>>2911759We see that the motive cause of correctness is to avoid incorrectness
So, we are in a circle (e.g.):
>why should we be correct?<to not be incorrectNothing has been elucidated, fundamentally.
>>2911886>To return to your original replyWhich simply means even more incorrect. Not just incorrect, even more incorrect, which may worsen the consequences of being incorrect.
>Nothing has been elucidated, fundamentally.What are the potential consequences of being incorrect? Potential death, failure of a project, pain, loss of material wealth, etc
>>2911801They don't which is why some people saying that their opinions are "progressive" is just a propaganda tactic.
>>2899817Nazi policies are good for jews now, so the ADL has shifted positions.
>>2899817capital has no left wing
>>2912684Left wing is super satanic and capitalistic.
>>2912158Now? They’ve always been Judeophiles
>>2912864MAJOR TRUTH NUKE
>>2913311wtf is the "oriental mode of production"
I'm pretty sure the chinese didn't invent factories.
>>2913320For marx, the asiatic mode of production is about the state monopoly on land ownership, and the apparent lack of division between town and country that was in asiatic society, where the ones doing agriculture and early industry where living in the same places, unlike feudal serfs (also control over irrigation)
It is a concept that has been mostly rejected by any contemporary marxists, including those in the soviet union, with some rebranding it the "tributary" mode of production, where the governing body exerce total control over vital sectors and lord over peasants without tying them to the land
Hmm…
>Is an Afrikaner that resents the ANC for abolishing apartheid
>Bankrolls every racist and far-right party in Europe, including the AfD which harbors actual Neo-Nazis
>Pays millions for his mockingbird influencer network that includes both philosemitic white neocons and zionist Nazis like Captive_Dreamer
>Boosts and pushes racist slop
>Is currently trying to incite a race war in the UK by artificially tweaking his algorithm to almost exclusively show ChudSlop to his British userbase, especially of the pedophobic variety
>Has spent days pushing Uwe Boll’s movie version of the Turner Diaries
>Constantly spouts far-right talking points
>Literally siege heil’ed at Munich
Yep, Elon Musk is a Nazi, a’ight.
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