/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2899833
>Is there bourgeois socialism?
read principles of communism by Engels (1847) he dedicates an entire section to this.

>>2899837
That's just social democracy

>>2899839
no he has a different section on democratic socialists

>Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
There were some New Left currents that did this on the basis of (mostly Black) prisoner's movements in the 60s and 70s. Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

>>2899857
>Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

Quick rundown?

>>2900934
It's essentially just a variation on the labour aristocracy theory, arguing that workers (or at least white ones) were too heavily absorbed into capitalist society and were unlikely to revolt. So they proposed that organized prisoners and lumpenproletariat more generally would take on a vanguard role that would eventually draw in the broader masses of workers.

>>2900936
Id love to hear about such movements because i have a somewhat similar belief, that is, that emphasis should be put on the most avant-garde, radical elements in society, the ones that, due to their conditions, are the most opressed in a first world country and would naturally have the most to gain from bringing about communism. An elite, not in a sense of class or education but in their severe resentment of a system that wronged them. IE ex cons,low class homosexuals, transgender individuals, and generally peolple who the system deems undesirable, mostly people who are extreme in their hatred of the status quo for being wronged by it. They would be naturally receptive to an ideology that promises the restructuring of society that would eliminate their subhuman status and should be pretty loyal due to not having a future under the status quo.
These types, should be chosen for their readiness to act violently if needed. With some education and training, they could prove very valuable and a shared struggle would mend their differences to an acceptable level. This nucleus could then, through a agressive campaign, slowly draw the general proleteriat into a broader movement.
I might be an absolute anarkkkiddie and a theorylet for even thinking this could work, but damn if it wouldn't be cool as hell.

>>2900936
the problem with that is the prisoners are literally slaves stuck in series of geographically isolated panopticons. no spartacus like uprising is possible when the slaves are in a jail. you would need a bunch of simultaneous successful prison breaks from max security facilities. statistically unlikely. also mixed in with the nonviolent workers who were imprisoned for no good reason are genuine opportunists, class traitors, psychopaths, etc. you are unlikely to develop a healthy and lasting political coalition out of that mixture.