/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2900323
>I am trying to understand what restrains state violence when military power is overwhelmingly on its side
Money for one. Invasions can be expensive. Getting a CIA puppet do your work and overthrow a government for you is cheaper.

Thank you for putting one of my most troubling thoughts into a thread so I dont have too. Will be following closely.

Simply put, you would need a draft, and the vast majority of Americans are too coddled, comfortable, fat, and addicted to make it past basic training, not to mention the resentment they would hold that might lead them to kill their drill sergeant or CO.

>>2900323
>Why doesn’t France invade Haiti after losing it?

well the Haitian revolution happened at the same time as the French revolution, so the French were a bit busy. If I recall, Robespierre was fine with abolition. Later on, after the thermidor reaction, and the rise of Napoleon, Napoleon tried to get Haiti back, but gave up because it was really expensive to do counter insurgency across the Atlantic ocean in the early 19th century.

After the US stepped in, and negotiated a deal between the Haitians and the French in 1825, the Haitians were forced to pay the majority of their annual GDP as reparations to the French, to pay them back for the human "property" they had lost. This naturally made Haiti very poor. The Haitians paid the French reparations for over a century, and the US also militarily occupied Haiti between 1915 and 1934, which everyone forgets, looting their national bank and putting down revolutionaries. Fast fowards to 2026 and Haiti has had a lot of its soil fertility depleted, it is run by US-backed warlords and gangsters, and it has survived multiple coups, invasions, and over a century of debt slavery, not to mention actual slavery. Since Haiti got its start with Columbus genociding the Taino, it is one of the most unfortunate places on Earth to live. Naturally rightoids ignore all of history and say it is just a shithole where racially and culturall inferior blacks live, because acknowledging that the imperialists have sabotaged Haiti's development in any manner is very "unfair" to the rightoids.

>>2900378
FMJ would be a better movie if Pyle used the M14 to kill everyone that beat him with soap filled socks too

> Why doesn’t the US invade Cuba militarily?

because contrary to what the US says about Cuba in its propaganda, the majority of Cubans are still socialist and support the Cuban revolution and the Cuban government. Also such an invasion would be globally very unpopular since most people realize that Cuba is only impoverished because of the embargo, and the majority of the world are against that embargo and have been for decades. Also the US loses every counter insurgency. It could not beat motivated Vietnamese, Afghans, and Iraqs. What makes you think it can beat socialist Cubans?

>>2900380
well the second half of the movie is about those guys in Vietnam, so then the movie would just end after only 1 hour.

With Cuba it’s the central contradiction of electoral politics that once you campaign on an issue, it’s actually against your interest to have a permanent solution to said problem because then you can’t reuse it for your next campaign.

>>2900385
My version of FMJ would be only 90 minutes, the last 30 being Pyle taking his slow revenge on the rest of the boot camp, shooting some, stabbing others, forcing them to do push ups like Sgt Hartman was doing

>>2900386
>central contradiction of electoral politics that once you campaign on an issue, it’s actually against your interest to have a permanent solution to said problem because then you can’t reuse it for your next campaign.
i know they actually believe this, but this always struck me as both cynical and naive (a rare combination) because solving one problem usually creates multiple new problems to solve, so you will never run out of issues to campaign on, whereas voters will notice after a while that you always run on a problem but never fix it.

>>2900389
So it’s laziness on the part of both the politicians and campaign staffers?

>>2900388
>revenge movie with drawn out action sequence at the end
that's very tarantino of you, but not something kubrick would ever do

>>2900391
It wouldn’t be action, more horror, think of a movie like Don’t Breathe but in a boot camp

>>2900392
you should just write that movie. nobody will even care that it's mostly a full metal jacket remake, because so was Jarhead.
>>2900390
Probably

>>2900377
So there are other ways to reclaim the territory: debt, economic embargo, some low intensity military operations, etc.
>>2900383
But wasn’t the purpose of Vietnam to destroy the socialist movement, which the US accomplished although it technically “lost” the war, wasn’t the Afghanistan war just a laundering scheme? There’s nothing to “win” the way I understand it.

As for Cuba, couldn’t a military intervention open an opportunity to place a puppet, similar to Venezuela? But I agree with the fact that it would be a very unpopular war

Actual answer: popular support

It's why the US needed 9/11 for the war on terror

The US lost in Somalia because Somalians deliberately tried to make headlines about the cost of staying. Venezuela could've never been boots on the ground full scale invasion, if they didn't immediately fold the US would've suffered the same fate in Somalia.

State powers begins and ends with its ability to mobilize and direct the masses.

>>2900412
>But wasn’t the purpose of Vietnam to destroy the socialist movement, which the US accomplished although it technically “lost” the war, wasn’t the Afghanistan war just a laundering scheme?
You can phrase the Vietnam war as part of the cold war which the US won. However, the US straight up lost in Afghanistan. It is an empire in serious decline domestically and internationally.
>As for Cuba, couldn’t a military intervention open an opportunity to place a puppet, similar to Venezuela? But I agree with the fact that it would be a very unpopular war
The problem is that an invasion of Cuba would be very expensive. You don't just need to pay for soldiers, military equipment, etc you also need to pay for propaganda to gaslight people into accepting a new war and other expenses. There is no clear point when paying for these expenses would end: a war in Cuba could last years. The US would rather spend its money on tech companies and "AI" for now.