Why do ziggers - who are socially rightist (Russian ethno-nationalists + homo/transphobes) and economically rightist (supporting Putin's oligarchy) - constitute a privileged class on LEFTYpol?
This. Russia is the most right wing European country at the moment.
>>2901514Worse, online Zits, TWists, Multipolaristas and so on are predominantly westerners. Smugposters addicted to owning da libs by watching lines move on a map and occasionally cheering when something gets blown up.
>Inb4 but NAFOSame attitude. But at least they don't larp as revolutionaries.
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>>2901622Why can't ziggers accept the fact that everyone here who hates them is a communist? There’s hardly anyone here who supports Ukraine; there are only two sides: Campists-Putinists and Leftcoms.
How's the weather in Langley today
> supporting Putin's oligarchy
This isn’t the 1990s anymore, boomer. Russia is ruled by the Silovniki, not the oligarchs.
>>2901649Looking forward to the rain? Hope you brought your umbrella!
I've eaten so many bans on this board for being against ziggers from the start but I don't know anymore, maybe they were right all along, sitting on the sidelines is the worst when comrades are dying
I've been banned for calling this shit a circlejerk before, so blow me.
>>2901514They're filthy /pol/ transplants. Simple as.
>>2901850How can it be a "no u" if it's a response to a kremlebot's projection? It is simply a return to the truth.
>>2901514you NAFO dickheads out yourselves by using the n-word to demean and dehumanise russians. russia's not blameless but they're not tearing down lenin statues and building monuments to a nazi loser who was too pilled to realise the germans didn't give a fuck about ukrainian sovereignty. speaking of nazi losers too pilled to realise the germans don't give a fuck about ukrainian soverignty the only groups genociding ukrainians are zelensky's thugs dragging them to the front line and the western governments paying him for the slaughter.
>>2901857>sitting on the sidelines is the worst when comrades are dyingWhy are your "comrades" going to die for a bourgeois against a bourgeois?
>>2901514>>2901862because they're not socialist, they're anti liberal they just like non/anti western powerful central states which is where you get retardation like H*z saying the safavid empire was socialist
>>2901514Leftists have yet to meet a reactionary they don't love
>>2901870>It’s just that there is no pro-Ukrainian side here, so all the shit gets flung only at you.Why exactly is there so little condemnation of the Neo-Nazism on this board then? Why are there constant excuses for why that's different to "Punch a Nazi" in the west?
>>2901870again, using the n-word is fucking stupid. it might appeal to the kind of edgy racist westoid gamers dumb enough to volunteer but it makes taking your case seriously impossible.
zelensky has become exactly the kind of nazi he tried to shut down in the lead up to the war because washington and brussels are more than happy to bypass the civilian government when negotiating with the armed forces.
keiv are dragging this war out at the expense of their people. at this point it's too late to run an election and cede crimea and the donbas. ukraine is past the point where it could even be a fascist outpost like israel, it's an open secret you're handcuffing soldiers to their posts, everyone is going to bail when the state collapses.
>>2901883Ukraine is a generational conflict. Even if this current generation of Ukrainians doesn't take back Donbass and Crimea, the next generation of Ukrainians will wage a guerrilla warfare insurgency to take it all back
>>2901884nobody's going to be nostalgic for this war or want to restart it.
>>2901875that's the faltering point of anti-imperialists, they don't have a more compelling vision of the future and get caught up litigating global intrigues and injustices. at this point you can't trust anyone who doesn't want peace.
>>2901649congrats, you outed yourself as a giga lib and/or neocon and/or glowie
>muh Axis of Evil is taking over the narrative of muh innocent burgerland<we are just a totally objective NGO taking hard cash from billionaire philantrophists to counter le evil narratives<it's not that the entire fucking Western hemisphere is crumbling and thus people look for other narratives, no, it's that our innocent people are being corrupted by… le evil narrativesfucking bannable pic, tbh
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>IF [hypothetical] THEN [hypothetical]
very convincing
>>2901514Because /leftypol/ is much more afraid of looking liberal than it is of being retarded. You must understand every action taken on this website is contrarianism against an entirely imagined other which the userbase does not have a high enough resolution image of to even
accurately perform contrarianism towards.
>>2901781Surely this still constitutes an oligarchy in formal terms.
>>2901857Do you think you could've saved a single life with your posts? Don't be silly.
This is the worst misconception of internet users.
Only one thing of any relevance has come from this war, just one thing. Vid related. That's it. Either side could've shot down one of their own SU-25s to record vidrel and then called it a day.
>>2902010Russia is white/anglo-saxon. That's why they have all the terrible traits of white people, like racism, colonialism, imperialism, etc. and it's why Russians make up the biggest percentage of immigrants to Israel. Same with Ukrainians they're all Anglos.
Asians on the other hand are genetically pacifist and only fight when they're being egged on by external forces. North Korea was attacked by the South recently and they just ignored it. China is surrounded by enemies and US puppets and they just ignore it. Asian = patience, unwillingness to fight pointless wars, and focus on internal development. White = roid rage, unwillingness to just sit at home and stop bothering others, and constant fighting.
t. phd in phrenology
Campism is the ultimate legacy of the Cold War. East vs. West, North vs. South, etc. Nobody believes in communism anymore and 'socialist' is a completely bankrupt term so the only ideology left is to choose which nation-states you like and which you don't.
>>2901640> There’s hardly anyone here who supports Ukraine; there are only two sides: Campists-Putinists and Leftcoms.someone who has never been in the ukraine thread, kill yourself
>>2902037no one supports ukraine besides that polish schizo and grillpilled
If you look at the banners that alternate between sucking off xi, the ayatollah, modi, rojova, dugin, etc
You'll better understand the libshit place you're in
>>2901622The we are killing proles because they're nazis is WMDs tier meme. Especially considering Russia itself mobilizes nazis
You say that but at least a third of posters here are /pol/fugees, Nafocucks, East Euro Nazis and Russian libfugees from 2ch who come here solely to shriek how opposing NATO and EU makes you a Kremlinbot and how everyone outside of the OECD is subhuman - that's you you never hear them say anything about Westoid countries or Ukraine, they just endlessly seethe about Russia and China and sometimes Iran.
Case in point:
>>2901649>>2901861>>2902027>>2902006>>2901870Why don't you go back to /pol/?
>>2901884Ukraine's population halved since the USSR dissolved, another 30 years down the line there won't be anybody to retake le rightful Ukrainian clay, unless Zelensky welcomes tens of millions of migrants.
>>2902051lmao the zigger victim complex strikes again. you people instantly project a bunch of shit that lives in your head onto anyone who doesn't like the wholesome smo
>>2901640Anyone who hates ziggers is a amab white Western 'leftist'*
You mean. 99% of all Leftist orgs across the entire rest of the world, support Russia in this conflict.
>>2902071>99% of all Leftist orgs across the entire rest of the world, support Russia in this conflict.Supporting Russia is exclusively a western leftism phenomenon. I'm sorry to report as a third worlder.
>inb4 but muh six people ethonationalist group in africaRussian funding + Not marxists
>>2902073Yeah sure Aldolfo Heinrich Himmler da Silva I am surely going to trust you opinion on this as a terminally online English-speaker that exclusively consumes Western content I. am totally going to trust your opinion here.
>>2902077If I consumed western leftism content I'd be a putin bootlicker howeverbeit
>>2902040thanks for including me but the last time i did anything involving supporting ukraine was during charity runs for refugees back in 2022
>>2902051this might not be necessary considering russian population is not doing much better
Why are we being raided?
Did the CIA and Russian Intel agree to some deal that makes neocons sad?
everyone ITT should read "Collapse", read how gleefully Russia and Ukraine teamed up to destroy the USSR despite all the ominous portents it would end like this.
for my money Russia gets the bigger "hahaha no refunds" reward because Yelstin was clearly egging Ukraine on so that he didn't get the blame for blowing up the new union treaty (and because, obviously, it's the biggest and most important country. We can imagine a "USSR" consisting only of Russia and maybe 1-2 friends, but not one consisting of every SSR except Russia…)
Sadly, state Fell For It Again Award factory #781 was closed in the economic turmoil of the dissolution, so they have to make do with this stupid war instead.
>no war but class war
<ree muh glowies
why are leftypoltards like this?
>>2902104>everyone ITT should read "Collapse"ok, give me a pdf
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