/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Islam is not a bastion against imperialism. It is an alternate form of imperialism. China is the last bastion against imperialism.

>>2902239
define Imperialism

West Papua, East Timor, Artsakh I rest my case

>>2902245
Imperialism is a spook used arbitrarily by third world reactionaries, islamist extremists, and ziggers to justify being reactionary

>>2902245

According to Lenin, it is:

“Imperialism is capitalism at the stage of development in which the domination of monopolies and finance capital has taken shape, the export of capital has become prominent, the division of the world by international trusts has begun, and the division of the entire Earth among the major capitalist countries has been completed.”
V. I. Lenin, Against Imperialist War

>>2902248

Typical person who believes that the Syrian rebels are the good guys, and Hezbollah are radical Islamists.

Retarded post the ottoman empire imperialized other muslims

>>2902239
>Is Islam the only true anti imperial creed?
Its more like a weaker imperialist force. There is nothing left of socialist movements in the middle east.

>>2902239
Putting the fact it's false aside, Islam is imperialist. It just failed to be as successful as western capitalism.
Most Islamic states operate under a form of theocratic fascism, absolute monarchy, or feudalism.
You can go back to the shit hole that is the ACP's cult compound now.

>>2902257
Lenin was writing over a hundred years ago. His writings on imperialism are outdated. Are we dogmatists clinging to century old writings?
>>2902258
Hezbollah are radical Islamists though. Just because they are Shia doesn't mean they are not reactionary Islamists.

For me the biggest problem with the non-Marxist anti-imperialists like Hezbollah and even Assad is that they are incompetent. We've seen the "axis of resistance" fumble from one misstep to another.

Call me a leftcom. I don't put my faith in arbitrary reactionaries because they are on one side of a map or another. I have been disappointed too many times.

>>2902279

>>Lenin was writing over a hundred years ago. His writings on imperialism are outdated. Are we dogmatists clinging to century old writings?

Can you tell me which aspects of the imperialist system have changed? Because, if you analyze the situation, you see that it operates under the same principles as a century ago, and that logic of outdated texts and dogmatism is stupid. Is Marxism also 150 years old? Is it also a dogmatic idea?

>>Hezbollah are radical Islamists though. Just because they are Shia doesn't mean they are not reactionary Islamists

They are so extremist that they have Christians among their own ranks.

>>2902277
>You can go back to the shit hole that is the ACP's cult compound now.
Islamic parties often find a following among the petit-bourgeois strata and the lower middle class which is probably why the ACP guys are also so attracted to it. Just the whole social vision and combination of smol businezz + Islamic morality + national sovereignty.

>>2902244
Replace "Islam" with "China" and your post would be correct and materialist pilled

>>2902277
>Most Islamic states operate under a form of theocratic fascism, absolute monarchy, or feudalism.
There isn't a single "islamic" state that isn't a liberal democracy

kys theorylet tourist

>>2902286
> Can you tell me which aspects of the imperialist system have changed?
Everything. When Lenin was writing before or during WW1 the British empire was the dominant power in the world and the Earth was divided between the colonial powers. Since then and after WW2 the world has drastically changed. For one thing: can you find anyone in the world that supports "imperialism" now? Is there any country anywhere that calls itself "imperialist"? This was not the case when Lenin was writing.

As imperialism has become a swear word like fascist (which it wasn't in Lenin's time) it is used by all kinds of reactionaries to support their positions.

> Because, if you analyze the situation, you see that it operates under the same principles as a century ago, and that logic of outdated texts and dogmatism is stupid.
I can appreciate Lenin's anti-imperialist pamphlets as ways of riling up the workers of the early 20th century against imperialism and as propaganda but I am not convinced they are meaningful today or they were even valid then except as propaganda. I am not convinced of the thesis that capitalism leads to imperialism, and if we argue against this position people will just redefine imperialism to be a product of capitalism making it a tautology and not a realistic analysis. So I am not sure it was true even at the time even if it was good propaganda.
>Is Marxism also 150 years old? Is it also a dogmatic idea?
Marxists agree for example that the 10 planks of the communist manifesto are out of date and shouldn't be applied today but they were good propaganda and that the time.

>They are so extremist that they have Christians among their own ranks.
That is allowed by Islam. They are people of the book. This is a stupid discussion anyways. What is your point? That we should support Hezbollah after they have proven have powerless they are to stop Israeli imperialism?

>>2902296
Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran are all liberal democracies yeah?
You have never opened a book in your life.

Islam has been the ultimate south world ideology serving western imperialism, there was a real secular panarabian movement trying to make an economic block out of MENA at some point but the money flew from the west into religger pockets and here we are. ISIS and Al Qaeda or even Hezbollah and Hamad are byproducts of this ruinous policy of pushing Islam by the west and their subservient petromonatchies. Rven Gaddafi was too much

@2902307
>Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran are all liberal democracies yeah?
Yes.

Go back, open theory, illiterate predditor.

>>2902310
You're an absolute clown.

>>2902239
>Why is it that Islam, not Communism, remains the last bastion against imperialism?

• looks at Saudi Arabia buying weapons from America to genocide Yemenis
  
• looks at Turkey in NATO
  
• looks at the fundamentalist Al Jolani in Syria bending over for Israel after ousting the (relatively) secular Assad
  
• looks at the Mujahideen in Afghanistan getting weapons from the CIA to overthrow the Saur Revolution
  
• looks at ETIM working with the CIA to destabilize Xinjiang province in China
  
• looks at countless examples of inter-Islamist fighting while the USA and Israel cackle in the distance
  
  

I'm thinking OP might be stupid.

>>2902309
truth nuke. also the british have been doing this since the 1700s (!!!)