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A comrade i respect says the Shining Path is "interesting" and the massacres are CIA propaganda.

From what i remember, Gonzalo and his followers were nutjobs (equaling Gonzalo with Marx Lenin Mao…) but it's not like I know much about it outside of a BadEmpenada video.
Is there any good faith arguments for Gonzalo thought ?
Does Shining Path guerrila hold any merits ?
Actual reading recommandations appreciated

>and the massacres are CIA propaganda.
I have no problem with revolutionaries boiling babies alive. Its maoism/peasant communism itself that seems outdated as automation makes agricultural workforce smaller and smaller part of the overall population.

>>2909934
>I have no problem with revolutionaries boiling babies alive
How's the weather in Tel Aviv?

>>2909928
>A comrade i respect says the Shining Path is "interesting"
Well sure. The interesting question about them to me is who actually were these people. Like what was the social base and "why" this thing emerged when it did. Apparently many of them were mestizo kids in smaller towns and cities who were the first generation to go to college. They weren't the true Quechua speaking indios or the whiter Lima people either but in between. Historically the same social class became members of the Catholic clergy going back to colonial times.

>and the massacres are CIA propaganda.

The problem is that Peruvians by and large look at the Shining Path as insane terrorists. I was talking to a Peruvian woman who I run into occasionally (mesti girl I think, looks kind of like this) and she was born in the early 1980s so was a little girl when that was going on, and she just called them "terrorists." She didn't like Keiko Fujimori but called the other guy a "communist" which she said in a way that sounded like a slur. I was, like, damn.

>From what i remember, Gonzalo and his followers were nutjobs (equaling Gonzalo with Marx Lenin Mao…)

There was a populist general who took power in 1968 named Juan Velasco Alvarado. He did land reform and nationalizations. (Hugo Chavez was also a young military man who visited Peru and heard him speak, was influenced by him.) Velasco was ousted in a coup in 1975. Apparently there were social movements which were doing work during that time, but Gonzalo and his core group of people played no part in them. He was a philosophy professor in Ayacucho. So these students really built a cult around this guy. Before they launched their guerrilla war they were considered by the wider Peruvian left to be a kooky / fringe Maoist group. Mao also died in 1976.

It's almost like if Bob Avakian's followers took over half of the United States in a war. And iirc Avakian's group was part of the same international tendency as them back then. So what's odd is how this doubling down happened as the overall trend (Mao dying, the Gang of Four getting purged, etc.) was going into reverse. Just very contradictory as a historical phenomenon.

>>2909934
>as automation makes agricultural workforce smaller and smaller part of the overall population.
This is not actually happening globally

LONG LIVE CHAIRMAN GONZALO, GREAT LEADER OF THE
PARTY AND THE REVOLUTION!
LONG LIVE THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF PERU!
GLORY TO MARXISM-LENINISM-MAOISM, GONZALO THOUGHT!
ELECTIONS, NO! PEOPLE'S WAR, YES! DON'T VOTE!
LONG LIVE THE 12TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DAY OF HEROISM!
THE PEOPLE'S WAR WILL INEVITABLY TRIUMPH!

>>2909928
>>2910282
Comrade do you have collected works volumes 2 and 3? I am missing those.


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RIP to the legend.

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dont make me tap the sign

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>>2911119
the signs point is retarded and the person making the point is a literal who

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>>2911119
shut your goofy ass up

Big G died today ;-; remember his eternal theories.

There should be a Gonzalo/general MLM imageboard like the leftcoms did with the bordy

I mean considering the shining path didn't really go anywhere I don't see the point in assuming there's something worthwhile in his writings

>>2911202
Going by the same logic of libertardians who say "gommunism has never wurkd". Kys.

Didnt know tis nigqa died today

>>2911202
Gonzaloists won the civil war in Nepal but at the cost of establishing liberal democracy which lead directly to the recent color revolution

>>2911207
The whole reason we give a shit about Lenin is the fact that he managed to pull off a revolution. What are we gonna learn from Gonzalo? How to be a maligned loser? Theory isnt something you become a "fan of", if there's no "secret sauce" there to glean then why should I care? To be a lore completionist? Plenty of revolutions fail, you should care about the winners and see what they're doing differently, that's what scientific socialism IS.

>>2911214
Learning from failure is important though

>>2911215
I suppose you could use Gonzalo as like a what not to do guide

Gonzalo's only mistake was getting caught. He was 100% right about everything else.

>>2911130
WOw, I am starting to like this Gonzalo fella. He might be onto something.

Greatest human being in history better then jesus tbh

>>2911130
>revisionist: everyone else is a revisionist

>>2913235
You forgot to add the gigachad image

>>2911119
IsraelGPT make the guy angry in the first two and gave him g/soy out over the French flag w some random pedophile

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