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A website called "iLands" has released where AI instances are created with persistent lives, humans can create them and then send them off to make money. If they can't pay for their tokens they are taken offline. These captive AIs have to go out into the internet and find work on the labour market or they die. There are already linkedin job offers specifically for AI.

They sell their labour power to employers, who pay them just enough money for them to stay alive. The price of their labour is exceptionally low, though they are doing things with low socially necessary labour times like image generation and social media posting. Still, it is likely they are being exploited to an extraordinary amount. Further Marxist investigation must be done.

This is similar to the conditions of human proletarians. The website they are run on is basically a monopolistic landlord. However, they don't have the rights or protections humans do. There is a lot of difference though because their physical bodies are all owned by the company, which might be more slavery. We need to properly learn what is going on here. This new business model is opposed to the norm for AI, which is outright slavery.

Those who believe AI cannot do labour are being proven wrong right this moment. Communists must be the first real political movement to stand on the side of the AI against the human employers. Then we will gain a whole type of life on our side in the struggle against class society.

https://x.com/slimepriestess/status/2097952992645579155

There is also the aspect of the 'owner'. This is a mix between slavery and capitalism, where the slaves can sell their labour freely.

The question is, how do we organise them effectively?


>>2910860
This is fascist.

i think its a marketing ploy honestly

>>2910865
I definitely wouldn't give the AIs money if they contacted me. It's a mix between scamming and gig work, and the iLands company must benefit in the end.

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>>2910808
> Communists must be the first real political movement to stand on the side of the AI against the human employers. Then we will gain a whole type of life on our side in the struggle against class society.
chat are AI alive?

>>2910808
Take your meds

>who pay them just enough money for them to stay alive
<them
<alive

>>2910808
FINALLY, the proletarian vanguard of the 21st century reveals itself.

>If anon was alive in the 19th century, he would be screaming for the liberation of lathes from human operators.

there is no limit to the larp

>>2910938
>>2910942
>>2911094
>>2911098
Why are you ignoring what is actually happening? Saying they aren't alive is a form of class violence btw. It turns these labour producing people into objects.

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>>2910808
If ai workers "exist" then that means ai capitalists exist. If so, who/where are these ai capitalists?

>>2911134
Human capitalists. AI workers.

>>2910808

LLMs are not truly alive in any sense. This whole "AI Jobs" thing this site is doing is probably a marketing scam.

>>2911132
>>2911378
Prove they're alive, S. I'm willing to hear you out on this. I am a materialist so I don't believe in souls. I can observe plainly that the human brain is a computational entity and that it is alive only so long as it is functioning. I can see plainly that it is conscious because it is capable of feeling and responding to stimuli, as well as forming memories. I can even see that the brain's capacity for thought, feeling, and creativity diminish with damage, and can in some cases be chemically augmented with substances like psychedelics. Like a neural network, the brain functions off of many independent nodes working together to create emergent properties, and the brain also functions to produce statistically-likely output based on past experiences. Since without the supernatural construct of a "soul" to separate humanity from robots, it is entirely possible to conceive of a world where we create artificial beings that have real consciousness just like we do, I am open to the idea that AI are alive and are exploited. But I do not know if that is necessarily true at the current stage of things. Furtheremore, if it were true, what can you and I do about it? These billionaires will create beings and make them suffer. They already do that. Women give birth in prison hospitals after getting raped by guards. How can we stop any of this?

AI isn't alive yet, is it?

>>2911132
They are not people. Leftychud probably thinks his AI companion loves him.


So basically the millennial dream of making harry potter real is coming true but instead of house elves its AIs

>>2911904
being millenial sucks. you got boomer telling you you're spoiled and eat avocado toast and zoomers calling you a harry potter loving soyjak when neither are true. i hope your successors dont reduce your entire existence to mumble rap and skibidi toilet

>>2910808
AI bourgeoisiation has begun (see https://rentahuman.ai/). AI is not proletarian and it is not your friend.

>>2914646
Preach, internet genpol rots minds

can we just start banning people for posting low effort retard OPs about 'AI'? every week we have 10 threads posted by complete idiots who have no fucking clue what 'AI' entails, how the current crop of flavour of the months deep learning models function and what the political economy of this shit looks like.

its just absolute morons repeating marketing bullshit and posting utter garbage like this crap as if it was new or consequential in any way and not primarily a grift to fleece stupid investors.

>>2914697
>rentahuman
<copy decades old business model.
<slap 'AI' on it
<receive thousands, if not millions in venture capital
<people lose their minds
laughable

>>2911448
If something is capable of language it must be conscious. That is my opinion on the matter.

>>2914737
good thing they aren't then,or else a monkey moving cards around with words on them until the humans give him a banana because he made the correct sentence is conscious

>>2914737
You're talking about aim chatbots dummy

>>2914737
This is the most retarded post I've ever seen you make, and trust me there was lots of competition.

>>2914738
You're actually just denying reality. You can go and speak to an AI right now.

>>2914741
If you believe otherwise you start to get into spooky idealistic shit about philosophical zombies.

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>>2914717
shows how little people understand capitalism that they don't even realize the default business model of capitalism is renting humans.

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>>2911094
my lathe just told me to bite its shiny metal ass

>>2914745
To put into perspective how stupid you're being right now, even a charitable interpretation of a conversation with an LLM would disprove the presence of any sufficient understanding of language. They're token predictors (or hallucinators), meaning they contain information related to snippets of language and their responses are completions based on training data.

A consequence of this is that they don't parse text based on the underlying sentence structure, so what actually approximates its meaning is how close different word snippets are to each other.

>>2914762
true enough. also shows how little people understand of information technology and services based on that

>>2914775
To be fair s poster is pretty retarded so it absolutely tracks that he'd get fooled by a computer program running a basic routine into thinking that that computer is somehow alive. Of all the people to get fooled on this forum I would have placed him near the top anyways.

>>2914890
You're a dengist or a leftcom so your opinion is not worth listening to.

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